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| Bojan_A23. 04. 2011 16:12:14 |
First time this year I really tackled the run to Stol. In February this year I already tried winter running to Stol, but the snow sank too much for the result to be decent. This year's April is a "dry one". So almost all the snow has melted.
Today's conditions for running were ideal: trail dry as pepper, weather stable and beautiful. Given the conditions, it's interesting that there weren't more people in the mountains. Hope not because of some religious fanaticism.
Already the start of the trail via shortcut to Valvazor is steep, later to Valvazor it flattens a bit. But this is the trail where the runner has to work and not fall asleep, because there isn't even a couple of meters of path where you could switch to easy running. All the time you have to fight the trail and search for spots where running shoes grip best. The only easy section is from Valvazor to Zirovnica pasture. The rest is the trail "the real" mountain one. Shame there's no race up here.
At height about 1900 m I step into snowy gully between the two Stols. Snow is crusty and hard, wind-crust only on top few cm of snow. So doesn't sink, but snow isn't hard path where all leg power transfers directly to speed. On snow I slip similarly to on scree field.
At the top slight breeze, otherwise really nice and very panoramic. Time 1:33, and I can improve it next time. Super training.
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| sin narave23. 04. 2011 16:17:28 |
Bravo. I suggest for next training to make the feat a bit harder and grab the log prepared down there for the hut in between; training will be spicier. 
Otherwise regarding the suggestion for race - not bad. But contact some sports club if they'd go for it and there, race on Stol too.
Best regards.
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| heinz23. 04. 2011 22:06:07 |
Heard about a hero from Selo pri Žirovnici who years ago ran from Osvald inn to Stol summit in 59 minutes. Many locals witness it really happened. Supposedly big bet.
Of course your time Bojan is more than excellent! (at least for us average joes..)
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| Bojan_A23. 04. 2011 22:43:08 |
Actually I ran 1 h 23 min 59 s. I miscalculated intermediate times before.
Still, if someone ran under one hour, it's on the edge of possible. That would mean average speed around 1700 m/h, which only top runners can do. So I doubt somewhat if any of ours ran that fast. Curious who managed it.
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| Johny7723. 04. 2011 23:16:59 |
The idea is not bad at all for mountain run on Stol, since there's one on Grintovec which is harder, highest Karawanks peak could offer it too 
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| Bojan_A23. 04. 2011 23:25:49 |
Stol would offer a demanding, interesting and completely safe trail (and Prešeren hut is at the top). Problem is probably that equipment would need to be brought up by helicopter, which would be expensive and harder to organize.
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| klm23. 04. 2011 23:47:56 |
Prešeren Hut is supplied exclusively by helicopter, so transporting equipment to the finish wouldn't be problematic, but who would take on the organization. That's the key question. As for the ascent to Stol under 1h, it's hard to find one among us. Among the aces from Bled area and Upper Sava valley, the candidate would be exclusively Franci Teraž from Mojstrana, practically no others. More realistic would therefore be the time of that mentioned hero from Sel: 1:59 h.
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| heinz24. 04. 2011 07:47:28 |
I hope I'll manage soon to find out the name of the one who ran under the hour. It should be some tens of years ago. Locals controlled him and confirmed it. He allegedly ran exactly from Osvald via Peči Ridge.., via various shortcuts and then higher directly up the slide to the top. So it wasn't running on the path that Bojan ran and which is definitely longer.
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| Bojan_A24. 04. 2011 08:17:40 |
I also suspect Franci a bit. But already running from the lake in Završnica under one hour would be very hard, practically impossible from Žirovnica.
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| ziga_b24. 04. 2011 09:05:51 |
heinz as I read you started debate about the ace whom I personally know! these stories are like you mentioned yes it was a bet namely come to stol and back under 2 hours, don't know if he exactly arrived up under 1 hour but it was close.you must know that this guy for trainings did up to 6 ascents and more daily by bike to Valvazor, and even now at his 53 years easily wins Ironman triathlons. anyway in best years he had no competition, but that's long ago, name heinz of this ace is Maks Pogačar, man alora I don't prick talk :P lp
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| klm24. 04. 2011 10:06:32 |
So we got the answer: actually there is no hero who ran from Žirovnica to the top of Stol under 1h. Past Trebušnik and water intake, then past lake to Bojan's start (parking) is a good 10 min. run. If we add to that 1.25h, which Bojan - who is a well trained (mountain) runner past the ledge - took, the total is 1:35 - 1:40 h. Based on this calculation we can recalculate that this time is identical to the run time to Grintovec - likewise also the trail length, i.e. ca 9.5 km, but with somewhat smaller elevation difference around 1800 m (here included all descents to Završnica lake).
In short, best times from Završnica to top of Stol would thus be at most around 1:20 h, by no means under 1h. That's already topic of scientific fantasy
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| Bojan_A24. 04. 2011 10:42:46 |
I agree. For fun I calculated a bit. As a starting point I took my intermediate times.
Yesterday I had an intermediate time of 0:25:54 at Valvazor and at Prižnica 0:53:07 (otherwise once before I ran 24:51 and 50:37, but snow slowed me at top). At top as I said 1:23:59.
If someone wanted to run 1:00:00, they would need 29 percent better time than me at Valvazor, which would be 18 min 23 s at Valvazor and 37 min 38 s at Prižnica. Average running speed would have to be 1630 m/h. Btw Wyatt ran to Grintovec with avg speed 1565 m/h.
Klemen, do you think Alič (or anyone else) could hold that? It would be quite on the edge. That's why we need a race.
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| heinz24. 04. 2011 11:26:54 |
ziga_b: I think it's the guy you're talking about. I myself couldn't believe the story when Luka from Žirovnica first told me about it. Later others confirmed it to me too.
I repeat, the guy didn't run where others imagine, but on his own shortcuts. No (allegedly) intake, Prižnica etc. Allegedly.
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| ziga_b24. 04. 2011 12:26:06 |
The man was literally a machine and knows every hidden corner and paths (passages) around Stol. I have deep respect for him because he inspired me most for sports, so for such people I take my hat off.
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| klm24. 04. 2011 13:46:17 |
As a former local I also spun around Stol countless times, I know shortcuts, but in this case you can't help yourself with them to such extent to drastically shorten ascent time compared to marked path. Namely shortcuts are decidedly too steep for fast progress, consequently too tiring. As for Simon Alič, he would most likely be able to approach 1 h quite closely, but with start from in front of lake, by no means from Žirovnica or even from Sel.
Colleague Maks Pogačar from Žirovnica hat off as sports recreational, but surely never able to arrive top of Stol in less than hour.
As for race to Stol, Mirko Janjatovič and I talked about it some time ago, but I don't know who in Bled area would be able to organizationally pull off such feat? - It's like Pope's organization of Grintovec, which is considerable financial outlay. AD Radoljica definitely not capable, if only think of miserable organization of run to Roblek...but it would be excellent race!
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| heinz30. 05. 2011 08:54:34 |
Adding a correction to previous statements:
Regarding the man who ran to Stol under an hour, it should be former Olympian Tajnikar Franci from Breznica (or maybe Zabreznica), who started to Stol from home. It's not completely clear if the goal was Prešeren hut or the summit.
The man apparently doesn't go around boasting about his achievements, actually it's known even to a smaller number of locals that he participated in the Olympic games years (decades) ago..
That's what I managed to find out recently.
Regards,
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| klm30. 05. 2011 09:41:23 |
Yes, colleague Franci was very well prepared in his time, but his time is approximate - namely he didn't measure the time to the second precisely, but looked at the clock before leaving and then ran to the summit. But despite everything - to the Prešeren hut and not to the summit -
using all shortcuts from Breznica he actually needed 1:15 h - he told me himself and by no means less than 1h - that's practically impossible. He also trusted me with the route that will need to be tested in the future.
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| heinz31. 05. 2011 20:51:34 |
Apparently at least some of what's stated holds true: start from the village, via shortcuts that exist and time around an hour..
The best would be if he himself showed up here and told us how it was..
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| m.z.5. 06. 2011 12:54:06 |
Colleague Franci was my coworker and is from Zabreznica. He was a cross-country skier and in the Yugo national team. Calm, fun guy with lots of stamina. Now waiting for pension.
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| klm5. 06. 2011 16:57:55 |
Heinz, I called him myself and checked. - I always check! If you need the phone number to convince yourself, tell me, I'll send it via ZS. What I wrote HOLDS.
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| JusAvgustin5. 06. 2011 17:01:37 |
hehe poor guy, doesn't even have peace in pension...
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