Toilets WC on Planika under Triglav
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| gorskaroza12. 08. 2017 14:12:24 |
Given the large number of hikers around Triglav, and considering that I've been going up there every year for 30 years, I'm wondering when for God's sake they will arrange toilets, it's been the same for all these years, primitive, horrible and unworthy of a human, in these times and with advanced technology.
With small steps for a big goal, I know it's possible.
The sanitary inspection should take action.
I hope for better, and sooner than in the next 30 years.
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| jprim13. 08. 2017 07:23:49 |
Finally, someone else criticizes, so I'm not alone. I wrote about this some time ago. Prices salty, crowds of people, little for the money, everything like after Kremenčko. Tea dragged from the kitchen on a string. Planika is not the only one in such poor pre-flood state. And we Slovenes don't know how to move forward with the times.
Best regards!
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| miri13. 08. 2017 09:01:06 |
This wouldn't be bad. And it's in some foreign languages too.
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| GregorC13. 08. 2017 09:13:09 |
The question is whether those from the TNP Institute would allow any interventions, let alone new construction as suggested by miri. Too big an intervention in the protected environment
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| turbo13. 08. 2017 09:17:12 |
A lot can be done if you want to 
(photo:Bluewin)
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| jprim13. 08. 2017 14:03:48 |
It's not just about toilets, around Kredarica everything smells of urine, but about dignified stay in a mountain hut. Our huts are just shadows compared to those across the border.
Regards!
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| Daaam13. 08. 2017 14:08:34 |
Those from TNP would only like us to pay the entrance fee for TNP and for an extra payment be transported by their transport means to Pokljuka, Vrata and similar points. There in the info center we would watch some projections of how nice it is in the park and that would be it... for a few "extremists" they would organize a special lottery, where for a hefty payment they would daily distribute a couple of permits for ascent to some peak where a marked path leads you. Everything else would be forbidden in the name of nature preservation... Only the "chosen ones" would then peacefully oversee the situation with the help of green brotherhood members, who would shoot only as much game as they could put in the pot.. plus some trophy for the wall  ..anyway yeah... WC's are, to put it mildly, horrible.. in the USA in the middle of the desert (national park).. a couple of hours' drive from the first shack, I "did my business" on such an arranged "dry" WC that looking at our "Triglav shitholes" made me mildly sick... I don't use them - pin me to the cross if you want.. - oh, that desert toilet I don't know if it has more than a couple of guests a day, so no one thinks it was some "most touristy" spot around.. How they "run" their NP, better I don't write at all.. or some of our conscious ranger would get a heart attack..
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| dprapr13. 08. 2017 15:16:55 |
Matija, you wrote that well.
Good thing I go to the mountains for something else and not for visiting huts.
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| jprim13. 08. 2017 15:39:33 |
I'm reading comments and realize (don't care about thumbs up or down,) you don't even understand what the problem is. Nobody does anything, just complains. If you looked across the border and slept there a few times, you'd be ashamed to be from Slovenia. Some just know how. We're a nation of serfs anyway.
Regards!
Well, daamm, treks are something completely different, so don't mix pears and apples.
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| Daaam13. 08. 2017 16:57:39 |
#jprim I "roasted" Triglav huts in front of the camera a few years ago.. because after some visit I had enough of the rip-off.. They all had to nicely defend themselves (in the studio PZS vice-president with his opinion, plus statements from managers or responsibles on PDs) Nothing more is in my power. But we can all publicly "nag" them and bother them - maybe something will move someday. I protestingly (and otherwise I have no big desire anymore) basically almost don't visit them anymore.. except some Kredarica off-season etc. but that doesn't faze them with obvious record season.. but I'm sure that this attitude (WC's are just a piece of a bigger story) will sooner or later come back as a boomerang and hit them on the head..
p.s. it wasn't trekking, it was just a top-notch shithole on a dune in the middle of the desert in a "state park" .. they are quite something especially regarding nature protection in protected areas..
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| SamoK13. 08. 2017 17:11:26 |
> ...just complaining
You said it!!!
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| Zvonček13. 08. 2017 17:50:06 |
Just yesterday I slept in one of our huts and I was really embarrassed when two foreigners slept on the bunk near me. Not because of the bunks, because of the WC, closed bathroom, expensive food. I sleep only when I can't do the tour in one go, otherwise I avoid them. But when I think what huts in Dolomites offer at reasonable prices (at 2700m cappuccino 1.10 €, who drinks coffee knows how much a Turkish one costs here. And what a diverse food offer. No comparison!
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| dprapr13. 08. 2017 18:53:17 |
I'm not the most competent for opinion on huts, but I'll say anyway that last time - quite by chance - I slept in a hut or mountain lodge 8 years ago. Got lodging in a room with shared bunks.
Still blue mattresses like when I slept there in teen years. Probably the same blues, because you could hardly lie on them anymore, more like half-sitting.
And it was in a mountain lodge with lots of traffic, at exceptional spot, but in all these years they didn't manage to replace blue mats with yoga mats.
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| lino13. 08. 2017 19:50:53 |
Partially we ourselves are also to blame for the desperate state in the mountain hut. The mayors of Bled and Bohinj have publicly told us that Slovenes are not welcome in these parts during the main tourist season. But since we are stubborn we consequently cause crowds in the hut too. Due to the enormous number of visitors the kind staff can't devote enough attention to individuals. The solution is visiting from September onwards.
As Jprim already said, we are a nation of serfs and they can shear us like sheep!
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| anzecokl14. 08. 2017 09:46:53 |
From September onwards huts (and toilets) in high mountains are mostly already closed 
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| iUnknown14. 08. 2017 13:44:24 |
@Daaam - exactly as you said. Last year I went to WC in Arches National Park in Utah. It's also in the middle of desert. There were tons of people, so we waited in line for quite some time. But no smell anywhere. And everything was clean. Really don't understand why it can't be similar here.
On Kredarica I'd rather not go to WC but hold it until I get back to the valley 
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| Daaam14. 08. 2017 14:08:32 |
iUnknown heh cool ..We skipped Arches NP last year, ..this year maybe we'll really visit it - in about two weeks we're going back there.... Utah is top anyway! you know.. How friendly the rangers in the parks there are,.. folk would rather not publicly .. because someone would think I'm bullshitting and bragging
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| iUnknown14. 08. 2017 14:35:09 |
Yep. Some park rangers in Utah are really cool. I managed to arrange with a couple of them that I could fly and film from the air with a drone, even though it's officially forbidden in parks.
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| mikipi14. 08. 2017 16:50:35 |
Can't you hold it? Everywhere it says "take your waste with you to the valley".. Not "shit it" around the mountains:
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| ZeK14. 08. 2017 19:10:12 |
I avoid our huts anyway. More because of the liquids than because of the WCs.
I wouldn't comment at all on comparisons with WCs in the desert.
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| živjo15. 08. 2017 19:03:17 |
Lots of things can be improved for little or almost no money.
Just yesterday on Kredarica I observed half-buried trash right by the hut, probably there for years.
I don't understand how it can't be cleaned up...
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