which starting points have a bus nearby
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| Kafetarca20. 09. 2023 15:31:11 |
Indi, do you go on foot directly from Žirovnica station, or catch some bus to a higher starting point?
Plus, when does that damn train from Jesenice to Podrožca run? Once I had bought a ticket for that route, when they announced to me at Jesenice that that train just doesn't go to Podrožca and no train from SLO ever goes there. 
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| Indi20. 09. 2023 16:59:28 |
I start the hike to Stol right in Žirovnica and go between houses and under that water facility to Završnica and further on foot.
You can find the train schedules between Jesenice and Podrožca here: https://www.oebb.at/ You can also buy the ticket online (4 euros) and probably on the train.
On Austrian weekdays, the train at 6:37 departs from Jesenice and stops in Podrožca at 6:47.
If Jesenice isn't too far for you, you can check it live (not on the weekend); the train will be waiting on the side track, there more towards the west, i.e., Karavanke tunnel/Austria (not at the underpass).
As I wrote, you need to be a bit of a detective to discover all existing options.
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| georgia20. 09. 2023 19:49:55 |
I have also used public transport for mountains many times, especially for multi-day tours.
Bohinj has excellent connection with Lj (bus every hour), in summer there are also free buses available that take you even higher or closer. Used several times, otherwise a few years ago I also hiked from Ribčev laz to Stara Fužina and on to multi-day tour. Also Kranjska gora and surrounding settlements have good connection. Vršič is also reachable by bus in summer. Tržič is excellent starting point for many mountains, also multi-day tours, visited many times by bus, schedules are ok; Jezersko also has connection, but unfortunately very rare, and Kamniška Bistrica ...
Many times I went to Škofja Loka and hopped to Lubnik from city center, nice circular variant can be done. Polhograjci are also reachable by LPP. Many "house mountains" are nicely accessible from valley towns, just find public transport to that town.
With train many more things are reachable, I plan Kum, ascent from one station, descent to another station. Črna prst is also nice variant ... Dogs are welcome on the train too. 
But you have to start from the valley, like in old times.
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| Kafetarca20. 09. 2023 21:13:51 |
I went from LJ towards Bohinj only once - to Bohinjska Bistrica we rode almost two hours, there I got off because I was at the end of my nerves. Then I went with free transport to Bohinj lake, unfortunately the bus to Savica ran only for a couple of hours, so I had to walk to Savica. Then I changed my mind about going to Komarča too, because I had to catch the train at six from Bohinjska Bistrica, luckily I just caught another free bus that went from the lake... Bottom line it seemed to me there was a lot of fussing if I'd catch the transport, and the first ride was pointlessly long and tiring. Once I went to Lubnik and the return train had two hours delay.
I have to admit it's not my favorite way to reach starting points.
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| dprapr21. 09. 2023 06:40:52 |
"I have to admit it's not my favorite way to access starting points."
I'll describe how it looked in the past. Now it's even worse, because fewer connections, especially on weekends! To my area on weekends no buses at all, or only 1x or 2x on Saturday.
From work on Friday you went home by bus and with backpack back to Maribor. From there by train to Celje. There you waited more than an hour for the last bus to Logarska. You arrived at Plesnik around 21. From there you still had a nice hike to Okrešelj, if you didn't hitch before. On Sunday around 16 you repeated the exercise in the opposite direction. In this area you could thus with a little effort, mainly nerves suffered, do a tour or climb.
If you went towards Julijci, you had to set off in the morning, by buses and trains. You arrived in Mojstrana around noon. Then nicely on foot to Vrata. If you were a hiker, a nice path in afternoon heat to Stanič or Kredarica awaited you. Last day you had to end the tour midday again to make it home. Weekend tour to Julijci was practically impossible. If you wanted to do a specific tour or climb, you had to go for several days.
With cars everything simplified. In good 2 hours at starting point and similarly back home. Those who tell me otherwise probably just pick mushrooms. 
And by renouncing personal transport, will we mountaineers save the world from catastrophe? We won't save it, we'll just hike less to mountains. Or rather only those with expensive electric cars will. That's the goal of everything. We make crowds for them, and it annoys them.
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| tomo_kugy21. 09. 2023 08:01:13 |
So, my view on the so-called green passage.
32 years ago I did my first ascent to Triglav. Since we planned quite an extensive hike with different starting point and goal, quite some logistics was needed. Hike plan was: Vrata - Stanič (sleep) - Kredarica - Planika - Dolič - Prehodavci - Sedmera jezera (sleep) - Komarča - Bohinj. Don't laugh, we collected all possible stamps along the way. To even pull this off, we first drove by car to Bohinj, left the car at the camp (good old times of free parking ). Then bus to Boh. Bistrica, then train to Jesenice, then bus to Mojstrana, then on foot to Vrata and even to Stanič. That was all first day. Uh, we were crazy. Today I surely wouldn't repeat it.
And a more recent experience. This year I camped with daughter in Boh. Bistrica, from where free buses go to various places, most popular of course the route to the lake. Well, we chose this bus, but upon arrival at Danica it was already full (third stop on the route), so they didn't take us. Next one in over an hour, and again no guarantee it would have space. And what do you do in such a case?
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| darinka421. 09. 2023 08:36:16 |
Yeah, back then there were no personal vehicles. They were rarer. But it's interesting to me, exactly 50 years ago, when I was 15, we went to Triglav. From our village. A young chaplain drove us, who was with us a few years then. I think he was about 28. Young and handsome. We already had a bus back then. I remember, he dropped us at the bend to Zadnjica. Then we went on foot further. All first time in mountains. Who went back then at all? From our remote places. We walked a three-day tour. First day to Planika. Second morning to the top. Then to Sedmera to sleep. We didn't have nice weather. At Ledvica lake we had mass. This our chaplain was very pious. He carried mass equipment with him. And end of tour was in Bohinj, where we had some time to rent boats and sail on the lake. Back then it was possible. Then bus to Bohinjska Bistrica and train home. That was my first tour in mountains ever.
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| dprapr21. 09. 2023 09:14:26 |
Yes, Darinka, that's how it was in the past. Many of us older folks wouldn't have seen mountains in youth without chaplains. And they didn't have to be handsome.
Parents had enough worries for survival, didn't think of mountains. When we became teenagers, we went around on our own. For several days. I remember we did 7-day tours and chewed old bread baked in bread oven. From Kranjska gora, Jalovec, Razor, Škrlatica, Triglav, Triglav lakes valley in one tour. Money only enough for transport, lodging and some tea.
But when you went through home village with backpack, they looked at you strange. On bus to Paklenica an older lady scolded me and brother properly when she found out where we go. She said if she was our mom we'd stay nicely home and not go climbing.
Sometimes better stay home than toil with train, ship, bus, hitchhiking to Paklenica.
Aja, for down there still no suggestions with public transport?
Also to France first time with public transport. Climbed the highest and one route in A. Vertu. That was all. Rest was driving back and forth and wild camping behind Britof.
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| Indi21. 09. 2023 11:41:04 |
Interesting stories. I also went first time to Triglav with father Miho Žužek, at fifteen, with some fifty youngsters, in one day. ;-)
But I came to show it can still be done today. ;-) Useful if you live in center of Ljubljana, walk fast, bit exploratory oriented, used to public transport ...
To Zermatt, Matterhorn path I think everyone comes with public transport (or taxi), otherwise no go. ;-)
I went by train also to mountains above Mallnitz, Bad Gastein, Sankt Anton, Spittal on Drava, also Chamonix. To top of Dinara from Knin by train but one hot summer I couldn't make it, had to repeat expedition with car in spring. ;-(
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| turbo21. 09. 2023 12:32:52 |
For me the most memorable is tour with AO (as trainee) to Viševnik, almost forty years ago. First bus from Ljubljana to Bled, there to bus for Pokljuka (regular line then) and on foot to Viševnik. There exercises with ice axe, falling and stopping, and more, descent over Uskovnica to Stara Fužina and there last bus to Ljubljana. Probably never ran down from Uskovnica so fast in mountains
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| franca21. 09. 2023 18:01:22 |
A fresh experience: by car to Vršič, tour to Jalovec and sleep under Špička. In the morning to Trenta, to the Zapotoški waterfalls and to the bus. In September, the only afternoon one at 16:00 from Trenta. Random acquaintances drove me to Trenta. It was an 18-seater bus, in which there was space just for us who were waiting there. At the stop for Izvir Soče, where I would have waited if I had gone on foot, it didn't stop at all. Four hikers who were waiting there probably didn't even notice the bus - it was a bit bigger than a van.
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| Daaam22. 09. 2023 06:54:31 |
At the stop for Izvir Soče, my partner and I also waited more than an hour in August a couple of years ago, soaked like drowned rats, for the bus they had advertised so much. In the end, we hitched a ride. Here's to you... public transport and all the other blah blah. We checked the timetable ten times and it didn't look like we had made a mistake.
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| ločanka22. 09. 2023 07:54:20 |
Yes, Bovec really is no example of effort and orderliness, even if we look at the bus transport, the cable car to Kanin, the hut there and more could be found...
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| tomo_kugy22. 09. 2023 08:24:27 |
About four years ago, around 9:30, I was returning from Mojstrovka by car towards Kr. Gora. Somewhere near Koča na Gozdu, I picked up two foreign hikers who had already been waiting half an hour for the bus. I don't know all the stops of the bus on the Trenta-Kr. Gora line, but according to the timetable they had, that bus should have arrived long ago, and during all the time they waited, no bus passed by. They were already a bit panicky because they needed the bus in Kr. Gora to catch the train in Jesenice, from where they wanted to make the next train to Beljak in time. Anyway, I drove them to the bus station in Kr. Gora, where they caught the bus to Jesenice at the last moment. I'm not saying it's the rule, but from the above testimonies, these things happen absolutely too often.
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| rokeg5. 10. 2023 20:07:16 |
What would you do if someone missed the bus? It has happened to me a few times, but I always managed to call someone to pick me up with a car. But I'm afraid of the moment when that's not possible.
For example, I went on a weekday by train to Zidani Most, then over Lisco to Sevnica; the train was half an hour late, so I missed the last bus to my home area, had to go to Postojna and from there call home to pick me up.
And once I went to Ilirska Bistrica and over Brkine to ŽP Gornje Ležeče. I arrived 5 minutes before the train was due, waited half an hour, nothing. I waited... I remember one train had gone before I arrived at ŽP... I called home to pick me up, walked to Vreme. No train in sight, and dusk was falling; anyway, there would be no more bus from Postojna if I had arrived.
Once in the afternoon from Vrhnika over Ulovka to Logatec. I was supposed to take the bus, waited and it didn't come, so I walked home along the route where the bus goes that didn't show up... 
Only with the bus to Babno Polje or to Idrija I haven't had problems yet, but they don't run on weekends.
Those are my experiences. Weekends are even worse regarding public transport.
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| miri5. 10. 2023 22:10:48 |
No problem if the bus leaves. Pensioners have the card safely with us.
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| turbo6. 10. 2023 10:40:34 |
Hm, I don't understand. So pensioners travel with the card or on the card or maybe in the card if the bus drives off right under your nose
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| miri6. 10. 2023 11:54:36 |
That's an old joke about the husband who missed the train.
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| Indi6. 10. 2023 12:16:50 |
Maybe in a couple of years ... insurance companies will offer assistance for missed public transport, just like they do for cases when the car won't go any further. 
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| turbo6. 10. 2023 12:50:12 |
miri,
thanks for the explanation, first time I've heard it
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