janez3 - Recent messages

Kompotela.
I'm passing it to the next one.

Lidija, sorry. That "above" misled me, one page back what you write holds.
And a picture with the key larch.

Lidija, you misunderstood Volk. You took the classic approach to Srebrno sedlo via Repov kot and today in the final part chose the right gully for ascent to the Zeleniške špic ridge. But Volk describes another path that starts at the "larch from the description" and turns left already there. You're mixing these two a bit.

mstrim - the path that goes from MARKOVA Ravan to Mokrica is not the one PIIII is asking about.

It should also be noted that on picture 17 in the link that Primož76 attached, there is by no means Velb (Window) in Mokrica!

The path whose section is visible on the penultimate picture has long been abandoned. No marking leads you down there anymore. The real path branches off from Kal Peak towards the saddle a bit further, at a smaller saddle where there's also a path junction. Straight leads towards Kalški ridge, left to Kalce and right down to Kokrsko saddle. Last autumn the fixed protections on this path were still impeccable.

Bobnar is on the other side of Brana.

I count among those who move a lot on pathless terrains and who first seek on the forum precise descriptions of movement towards the goal (besides current conditions), which I compare with data from other sources. GPS tracks are thus important and welcome to me, but far from decisive. Above all, they contribute to safety; on pathless terrains even much more than on marked paths. The condition is of course that we know how to handle the device and know the path's difficulty, our abilities and take current conditions into account.

I also count among those who don't jealously keep hidden areas just for themselves. It doesn't seem right to me to try preventing more precise descriptions out of fear of too much visitation. A mere superficial, experiential description with a beautiful photo will get someone on a path sooner than clearly written that to that photo one needs to climb a gully reminiscent of a III.

I don't think there will be excessively more visits to pathless terrain due to GPS tracks. Abandoned trails, chamois paths, steep grass, wobbly holds, exposed unsecured crossings, rare damaged protections, sea of scree, are not a magnet for mass visits. Crowds are where there are huts. When those close, peace reigns in the mountains too. To those few individuals who will later, say due to publicly published GPS track and step-by-step description, reach some goal via pathless (more safely), I also wish it. Despite everything, they had to invest huge effort and knowledge.

And one more thing needs to be said. There's a lot of writing lately about GPS navigation.
The feeling is the same as years ago when mobile phones started accompanying hikes. GPS will become our daily companion, can't avoid it. Even in mountains. But if anywhere not, then in mountains they don't lead you "by the hand". They only indicate turns, their max accuracy is 5m (which can quickly be a lot), cartography for device and computer program is what it is – outdated, in gullies and chimneys quickly lose signal, also signal is worse on cloudy days, depend on batteries. In short, relying only on GPS in mountains is dangerous. In combination with classic map, path description, tips from experts and our knowledge and experience, it will soon become indispensable tool.

Janez

which peak?

Dry over both passes and in steep grasses behind Koglo. 29.6. some snow still in gully under Koglo and a bit on big slabs.

LP, J