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| Becar12. 04. 2021 17:52:26 |
See how simply the facts of this world scam can be determined if you listened a bit in elementary school; everyone should figure it out themselves, no need for me to give it away. Well, for those who don't know English, let me add that these graphs also account for population changes over the years, so it's more meaningful. Since this is pure proof of the Covid scam, now I'm interested how much you'll still dare to spit and with what arguments.
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| VanSims12. 04. 2021 18:21:29 |
I spit with the argument that now I believe the first sentence of Primož's last post. 
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| Becar12. 04. 2021 18:35:29 |
Super! That was the peak of intelligence now.
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| Becar12. 04. 2021 20:00:16 |
See, as soon as 50% of people over 60 started rejecting AZ vaccine, they lowered vaccination limit from 60 to 18 years. AZ vaccine also needs to be used up because there was such deal somewhere above us ordinary citizens. Here benefits flew left right and now thing can't stay halfway. They've waded too deep, too much butter on head. Citizens just collateral damage for them on way to luxury cars yachts villas etc...
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| VanSims12. 04. 2021 20:31:27 |
Those who know how to think with their own head knew that AZ was 'shit' already in the testing phase, end of last year, and that those of us who would get vaccinated certainly wouldn't with it.
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| Becar12. 04. 2021 20:40:12 |
The problem is not AZ. The problem is that the excess mortality in 2020 is fabricated. Getting vaccinated against covid is stupidity. I already presented evidence to you on the previous page. Look what those criminals did in our country. That graph that Primož liked to show about excess deaths was deliberately chosen that way because it was ordered. It's selected for one small Slovenia, for a small period of a few months, comparative period also precisely determined. So what is the cause of excess deaths in these 2 months here. Let's ask why it's like this here, but not in other 40x larger countries (including Italy and Spain). What caused so many excess deaths at the end of the year here. I still haven't managed to get data on the number of suicides, maybe it got stuck on censorship or something, I don't know. Why not ask, what if we have such a messed up healthcare system that delays in urgent surgeries alone caused this few-month excess? And why for example mortality was LOWER than in 2019 in the first wave. Since it's an official pandemic, look at larger countries, larger samples, because we are so small we could be just some statistical outlier that's one spit in the ocean on global level.
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| zavest12. 04. 2021 22:32:41 |
@Becar, even selfie king manages to cram more selfies into one post, so we expect the same from you with graphs.
And that there's a link. And that you don't mix concepts of excess deaths (excess deaths, what I was talking about) and what you linked - crude deaths.
There's a significant difference between them, but since "everything is fabricated" and "everyone lies to us", that doesn't matter, right
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-excess-mortality
https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid
Dang, even neutral Reuters became a lying media of plandemic propaganda
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-dead-idUSKBN2AX1VJ
The conspiracy goes deeper, volunteers even gathered on their own for free in the Sledilnik community lying to all of Slovenia with statistical tricks 
Write something about crematoriums too, surely there's a "real" explanation that explains longer waiting times and increased need for cremations...
You know, sometimes following that joke about Mujotu on the autobahn in the wrong direction it's worth asking who is really full throttle against the flow...
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| Becar12. 04. 2021 22:43:30 |
Regarding links, for the first graph I wrote the source to you, so browse the mentioned website a bit yourself so you don't get everything on a platter. If you still can't find it, let me know, I'll stick them on. What, did you develop a conspiracy theory that I drew the graphs myself? 
Your understanding that excess deaths are something different from mortality is unfortunately completely wrong, you can see that math is not your virtue. Of course both concepts go hand in hand, with the excess deaths concept introduced precisely for people like you. Excess deaths is a comparison of current deaths with average deaths for a SELECTED period. And that's the catch. This selected period is an excellent tool for manipulating the naive population. The graph of raw deaths per year divided by population number is by far the best indicator of the real situation. No room for manipulation here anymore.
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| Becar12. 04. 2021 22:49:43 |
Let me tell the unbelieving Thomases this: I just spoke with the aforementioned classmate Dr. of Pharmacy to whom I addressed the question about the pasted graphs and he confirmed the correctness of my interpretation. Apparently they talk a lot about it with colleagues, that there was NO increased mortality globally in 2020. There are deviations per country plus and minus, differences more like small samples (which is of course statistically normal) but globally mortality is the same or with expected trend changes without prior covid consideration in projections.
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| zavest12. 04. 2021 23:10:57 |
Come on dude, report these findings on manipulation and abuse of "excess deaths" to Sledilnik, teach them they must use "crude mortality rate" and then paste the response below
Probably in the team there are some whose math is an even stronger virtue than your conspiracy theories 
Unless of course you'll claim Sledilnik is biased, (bought), etc. - in that case I recommend an appointment with pros at phone no. (04) 533 52 00.
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| Becar13. 04. 2021 07:35:00 |
Yeah dummy, there's nothing wrong with Sledilnik in mathematical basics I believe the shown graphs are correct. Unfortunately some of you panic-mongers immediately think of conspiracy theorists at any other opinion. It's about that if you show excess mortality, you can draw the graph in 1001 ways. Say you draw the one that suits you best. Or draw one so that most people go WOOOW look at that excess mortality. But when you draw the graph of deaths per year and also consider population number, then you can turn it however you want, it will still be the same. Understand? I emphasize again. For Slovenia there really is unusual excess mortality at the end of 2020, which of course significantly raises annual mortality too. But here there's no proof it's directly linked to covid. Why? Because we were unique in those few months compared to other countries. Better focus on why there were so many deaths at year end, because there might be people with names and surnames behind it. My 50 cents go to delays in urgent healthcare services and strongly increased suicide rate. Which some SLOVENIAN doctors already warned about in summer. Some have conspiracy theories in their wet dreams, while others try to figure out what actually happened here and in the world, why such a difference.
But if you tell me that despite so many revelations on all TV programs you still believe certain criminals from all over DID NOT profit and abuse covid for enrichment, then YOU are the conspiracy theorist for me and we won't talk anymore.
Or you can of course call the statistical portal Knoema in the USA, which exists since 2011 and accuse them of conspiracy theories and that they must delete all data, they can only use excess deaths graph for Slovenia, exclusively for 2020 and with average of last 5 years.
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| zokipoki13. 04. 2021 07:59:32 |
Becar it seems to bother you most of all that some profited during this time at the expense of the virus that doesn't exist, am I right?
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| Becar13. 04. 2021 08:11:31 |
You are wrong. What bothers me is that on account of the covid-19 virus, which exists, but is no more deadly than previous covid cold viruses, enormous irreparable damage happened:
- destruction of economy
- destruction of education and thus need for children's education
- delays in urgent healthcare services with victims that will never be acknowledged
- forced testing for maximum sales of tests
- unnecessary unverified vaccines without proper testing period
- personal distress, unemployment, domestic violence, suicides
- limiting human rights, constitution violation
- profiting of covid clique at expense of our public money and thus ensuring no money for healthcare, education, living standard...
- indebtedness of state for next generations
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| piotr13. 04. 2021 08:19:03 |
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| zokipoki13. 04. 2021 08:19:07 |
I understand, but anger won't help here. Everything you listed was happening before too, just with different instruments, so nothing new.
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| Becar13. 04. 2021 08:27:55 |
The solution is to first wake up as many people as possible, show them verifiable facts about covid scams. Thank God, it's already happening, even the most conservative and uptight ones have started to question a bit...... Then it will all be up to us, the nation, how long we will still allow them this. The best way is to vote for those parties at the next elections that won't be messed up with this covid and will rather direct efforts to fixing what the current ones have screwed up.
Because the minister said yesterday in the evening news that it is now very important to start educating children from a young age on how important masks, social distancing, vaccination are....whoever doesn't see from this that it's a long-term plan for robbing based on brainwashed minds, then I don't know anymore. These people like chaos, restrictions, fearfulness and discord among people. When we overcome this, then we will be saved.
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| zokipoki13. 04. 2021 08:30:39 |
Do you realize that such an action could make the situation even worse?
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| Becar13. 04. 2021 08:33:01 |
What about elections? If you mean popular uprising, then my opinion is of course usually at the beginning the situation worsens, but look at Iceland, how nicely they fixed it.
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| jax13. 04. 2021 08:36:33 |
Because the minister yesterday in the evening news said that now it's very important to start raising children from a young age how important masks, social distance, vaccination are....
24ur evening? I didn't listen, I'll check it. If it's true, it's downright scary. And I'm no antivaxer at all. But presenting to the youngest this atomization of society and fear of fellow human as normal state, is ... no comment.
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| Becar13. 04. 2021 08:47:02 |
Jax, exactly there it was. Just check it yourself.
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