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Becar18. 05. 2021 20:32:32
Gay made you with sperm punctuation. When he saw what he did, he freaked.

Trobec, you have every opportunity to check the information. Just like the information on safe vaccines, about which the "experts" talk.
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Trobec18. 05. 2021 21:00:23
Thanks for telling me that I have the option to check vaccine info. As a master of pharmacy, I didn't know that...cool
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Becar18. 05. 2021 21:23:37
As pharmacy master maybe you know that in two known pharma companies your colleagues usually don't choose this vaccination?
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Trobec18. 05. 2021 23:41:56
My colleagues (if we're already limiting just to education) are the most vaccinated group among all professions. Of course it's like that, that in a pharmaceutical company masters of pharmacy represent a smaller share of employees. And willingness for vaccination drops with lower education. Our company (which doesn't belong among those 2 more known) is no exception.
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VanSims19. 05. 2021 02:35:55
zavest:"@Samo, you can already see from the numbers that Dr. Becar has trouble distinguishing ..."

Yes, some of us see this, most don't. And so guys like @Becar are turning people away from vaccination. The most easily understandable (especially for someone who's already wavering anyway) is some link pasted and next to it some ranting. Counterarguments are usually more complicated. The conspiracy theorist throws something out and that's it, the scientist has to justify, which is harder to understand for the average intelligent person,

So, I really think that's immoral. And since he's so aggressive, someone probably really pays him for it.
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Becar19. 05. 2021 06:47:14
You are aggressive with your rude escort against dogs velik nasmeh Scientists have to justify.....?

What, that the vaccine/gene therapy in experimental phase with conditional approval for use is safe? nasmeh

All who pressure undecided, healthy, low-risk groups, children, FOR vaccination with experimental vaccines/gene therapies, are criminals, mercenaries. And they will answer for it too.
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VanSims19. 05. 2021 07:25:26
No, I'm aggressive against dog owners. I realized that the dog is not guilty at all if it has an aggressive idiot for an owner. So dogs are no longer threatened, as far as I'm concerned.

Yes, scientists justify, you and other conspiracists and antivaxxers just rant what the masses want to hear.

And keep making a fool of yourself: amid all the nonsense you rant to wide Slovenia, you don't even know the difference between vaccine and gene therapy.

And no one forces anyone to get vaccinated. Everyone from politicians to experts claims that. Vaccination is voluntary, no one will drag anyone to the clinic and tie them to a chair.

But the more this is repeated, the more aggressive you have to be back that it's mandatory. Because that's what your payer ordered you, whose humble doggy you are.
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pantani119. 05. 2021 07:29:33
For some and others it's as believable as 10-day weather forecasts velik nasmeh
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Becar19. 05. 2021 07:35:58
VanSims, so now you're suddenly escorting dog owners too? What will you do when you realize they're not guilty either. Spray yourself? velik nasmeh

You know, there are scientists FOR and AGAINST. With you blinking one eye because you're "polarized".

Discrimination, violation of human rights, pressure, intimidation, media ultra propaganda, showing false pictures and data, exaggeration, bribing vaccination candidates... that's characteristic of your "option".

It's also possible to draw a parallel with your rude escort. Whoever is not with me, needs to be escorted, silenced. I know you'd escort me without hesitation too. velik nasmeh
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VanSims19. 05. 2021 07:43:50
Yes, I know, it's their authoritarian mom or aggressive dad or ... yeah excuses, excuses for why people treat dogs like that. And here's a nice example that whoever doesn't like dogs, doesn't like people either. The implication is only one way. You had logic on fax, hope you understand.

FOR are real scientists, AGAINST are quasi-scientists that you conspiracists and antivaxxers cite. Haven't seen a counterexample yet.

"Discrimination, violation of human rights, pressure,..." OK but who's forcing whom?

It's like saying: yesterday I drove through red and paid a fine. What discrimination! Those who drove through green don't! With speed cameras pressuring me! Media do terrible propaganda that rules must be followed. Who will order me. That following rules contributes to road safety is a conspiracy. Traffic mafia!

Exactly that stupid your nonsense sounds.

No one forces you to respect rules. You decide yourself not to! Just like for non-vaccination.
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Becar19. 05. 2021 07:48:09
Those FOR are bribed scientists of the COVID mafia with astronomical financial benefits, those AGAINST are scientists who still have a sense for human well-being.
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VanSims19. 05. 2021 07:57:29
You mean all the main infectologists in this country are bribed, that handful is for well-being. And how much money does this 'COVID mafia' have to bribe infectologists and scientists of the whole world? What all hasn't it arranged according to you? And propaganda and I don't know what else. And that in practically all countries of this world. Not one said no. To the vaccine, for example!

Well, whoever believes that, can't be helped.

And who is this COVID mafia? Names and surnames? Of the highest members, please. JJ and his are small fish!
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Becar19. 05. 2021 08:07:57
That's right. All were first appointed, so they answer to the current regime, previous were fired. For those positions they got enormous salaries, bonuses and so not even one thinks of stepping out of this system. Similar with doctors. I don't know, do you really sit on your ears and head in the sand? This is no secret anymore. Didn't you follow salaries from 17,000 - 27,000, and 500 working hours per month and similar crime? You probably don't know what happened long before this covid, when drug reps went to offices? That almost every doctor has their own companies open with private TRR?

How much money does covid mafia have? First all our taxpayer money, to that add money of multinationals connected to vaccines, drugs, protective equipment, tests etc... Currently oil or arms industry is a snot-nosed kid against covid mafia in capital amount.

Tell me, have you ever noticed that say arms industry or oil industry succeeded in mass censorship, like covid mafia succeeds. Say you write on FB or YT, stop arms, arms kill innocents, or say stop fossil fuels that heat atmosphere.....will they delete you? Well that's one proof of current power of covid mafia.
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VanSims19. 05. 2021 09:40:36
All were previously appointed. Merkel in 2004 e.g. up to the last king there, emir, who rules for a couple of decades and hereditary! "Se non è vero è ben trovato", our western neighbors would say.

Enormous salaries, I said a few pages back: Similar happened here, no connection to healthcare. He got one-time compensation equal to salary, court awarded because illegally fired and had to rehire. If not, court would send enforcement. 24 hours then how much salary! We sent correction, do you think they published it, they didn't even apologize. So since then I know where enormous figures of various public servants come from. Can scare ignorant public though!

Private companies doctors have only here. Because healthcare public and no one accountable for work at workplace, does it or not or instead shoddy work. Abroad accountable and can't do just any shoddy jobs and companies. Moreover, like in many private companies other branches, sometimes even non-compete clauses prohibiting it.

This mafia has all our taxpayer money. Come on, we know you're not serious but this is too much.

OK, first should erase e.g. dr. Štrukelj. He dared state long-term effects mRNA vaccines unknown and so who doesn't want doesn't have to vaccinate. What worse!

By the way, I respect his opinion, waiting for classic vaccine. If your quasi-scientists said that, you'd freak out.

Real scientist states all facts, positive and negative, quasi-scientists and conspiracists only what suits them.
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korl19. 05. 2021 10:21:07
Why look for the source of the problem in the world when it's here. Puklasti strain of the virus is the cause of our covid mafia, not foreign conspiracy theories.
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Becar19. 05. 2021 11:32:33
True scientist, true political party, true fuhrer, true media etc... That's how it goes with you, VanSims, I realized that long ago zavijanje z očmi
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VanSims19. 05. 2021 11:51:59
@Becar: I see you have nothing more to answer when you start discrediting. That's good! cool

So, according to you @Becar and @korl: if the opposition now accidentally topples Janša's government and takes power, all measures would immediately go away, from masks to distancing... We would live completely normal life as before and most importantly: immediately stop all vaccination against this 'common cold'. Everything would open at once, unlimited, restaurants, sports, concerts, culture... in short, as if there had never been an epidemic?
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pantani119. 05. 2021 12:20:20
When you once realize that they divide you into left and right, only then will life return to normal. Now when left and right are not in the foreground, they have divided you into vaxxers and antivaxxers. You argue, they steal. Same shit, different packaging, and I wish you a nice rainy day. velik nasmehvelik nasmehvelik nasmeh
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Becar19. 05. 2021 12:30:49
VanSims, when others come to power, the first and most important step will be to hunt down this planted scum from important positions. Scum that, regardless of immunity and vaccination rate, already plans a new wave for September, so that this mega theft of our money, violation of human rights and discrimination can continue undisturbed!
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julius19. 05. 2021 12:51:40
Countdown.
Pahor still 613 days
JJ and his government max 381 days
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