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Becar5. 08. 2021 08:14:56
France. We are the 4th wave!
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tulipan5. 08. 2021 09:00:11
Van Simon,
Friday June 26, 2015
via ferrata on Stol.
Shall I post the picture too, to tear you from anonymity?
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VanSims5. 08. 2021 09:10:30
@Aljoman: "Website domovina.je biggrinbiggrinbiggrin aka Zavod Iskreni. Seriously? Who should take you seriously"

Utterly hypocritical!

If we disregard that here we posted from 24ur media uncensored, youth, not to mention various 'medical' initiatives, in short those you always have to take with utmost caution, you could have spoken up at least when links from e.g. facebook were posted. Anyone can post really anything they like on it and it's considered less reliable than even such vulgar plebeian puff media.

@jax:"But some just can't get it, that such decisions in normal countries are not made by the government, but by parliament (laws)?"

Well, some can't understand that in normal countries decisions are made by legally elected bodies (parliament, government, ...) not the street, but let's leave that.

In normal countries opposition in such crisis as this cooperates with government at least in not undermining every one of their measures and not nagging all the time, if of course on other areas it normally performs opposition function, which is of course right.

Slovenia is, as you yourself hinted, abnormal country. And congrats that some in this country finally realized i.e. that you can't deal with balkaners democratically, europeanly, ... but balkan way. Bruta Forza!

Anyway, why worry, constitutional court will declare the decree unconstitutional and you'll all be happy again.

And one more: it's not said at all that this is anything illegal: IP is not the body that decides on it but just gives its opinion.
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jax5. 08. 2021 09:34:18
No. In a rule of law state, every single "decision" must be based on an appropriate legal basis. Every single one.
Legal bases are not given by "legally elected bodies", but only by one "legally elected body". Parliament. In democracy, parliament adopts laws. No one else. Never and ever.
Just to be clear on this.
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SamoK5. 08. 2021 09:58:36
>Laws in democracy are adopted by parliament. No one else. Never and never.
>Just to be clear on this.

The government adopted a decree.
Parliament adopts laws, but the government also adopts decrees.

Are we now a little clearer?
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Becar5. 08. 2021 10:15:34
Tulipan, post a picture so we can see that famous pepper spray for the belt. 2015 was still before the spiritual catharsis and visiting dog museums velik nasmeh

I see someone from the boys' group Blokiranih 6 again has emotional outbursts (or maybe some others) about the new form of PCT app. In the sense, now they can maltreat you. So he doesn't rejoice too soon, let me explain from a legal point of view that it's just an additional unconstitutional and illegal decree that no one needs to follow, probably another taxpayer million went to Mauritius for app modification.

These guys from Blokiranih 6 remind me of some Serbian woman from our area during the independence war. During the JNA attack, TO went down the street past the block, she shouted from the balcony "Eee Slovenes, now you'll get it on your p****" They took her somewhere, where I don't know mežikanje

In summary, the new form of PCT condition is legally the same as the previous (zero legal validity), just even more mired in discrimination, unconstitutionality and illegality than the previous.

Why doesn't the government ask say my lawyer colleague for a legal opinion if they have such incompetent legal services? So far he has always been right, they always wrong. Unless they have some secret legal handbook of their own. Isn't that strange?
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Becar5. 08. 2021 10:33:33
Probably you read that the policemen who took care of removing neonazis who provoked a 500x larger crowd during past protests in LJ will get dismissals, also the head of PU Ljubljana. Who would have fingers in this? Maybe someone who founded an NGO where they write that Hitler was a hero?
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pantani15. 08. 2021 10:49:58
Do you notice that the vaccine lately is the solution for all troubles we didn't even know two years ago? Get vaccinated and God will help you, or how does it go??
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jax5. 08. 2021 10:57:08
The government adopted a decree.
Parliament adopts laws, but the government also adopts decrees.

But decrees must have a legal basis.
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ločanka5. 08. 2021 11:00:05
Where is primoza? I don't see his posts, not even old ones
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pantani15. 08. 2021 11:08:51
We were on a good path to get rid of the virus. Then vacations started, borders opened, people even vaccinated started going to countries with strong infection and after return of vacationers from abroad, infection started spreading. So really the blame is on unvaccinated, because vaccinated are protected, but they forgot they are virus carriers. And now unvaccinated who didn't go anywhere, follow NIJZ measures, are increasingly restricted, and vaccinated infect us. Great situation and free virus entry to homeland.
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Becar5. 08. 2021 11:19:09
I copy from Dnevnik, Matjaž Figelj MD, spec. internal medicine.

To me the best statement in this article is "sick minds attract sick minds"

Sick minds
Who has the right to restrict schoolchildren, high schoolers and students from gaining knowledge in school classrooms and lecture halls? Who has the right to forbid us crossing municipal, regional and state borders? Who can disable our family life? Is there anyone who can forbid children and youth to play together? Forbid us public expression of our thoughts? And forbid protests as a sign of disagreement with authority positions? Who, I ask, can disable us from going to work for months? And who can order us that without a face mask we can't go to the store? Who has the right to order that at a funeral we can't say goodbye to our deceased friend? And who lock gyms and forbid children training and sports competitions? Who dares take the right to destroy tourism, small entrepreneurs and the state economy? And... who has the right to destroy society?
Who has the right to abuse very rare sensible professionally justified and morally-ethically and legally supervised limitations of our activities during the epidemic?
No one.
Yet they took away most of our basic rights. Because they have huge power. Their power is fueled by intelligence, eruptive desire for domination and control over others and narcissism with grandiose feeling, often very fragile, of their own importance. In desire to dominate, they lie and manipulate. Due to fragile sense of importance they need new and new victories, new and new tramplings of their victims. Consequently their lust for domination never dries up. Equipped with lack of compassion they trample easily and with pleasure, without feeling guilt or regret.
Lie. Our beliefs, even wrong ones, influence our behavior. Very early we learn we can influence others' behavior if we trick them into wrong beliefs. Dark side of communication. All people lie a little, since small ones, we could call them sweet lies, possibly useful. We often use them in communication. With them we hide our true feelings to enable friendlier and thus more constructive communication. Sick minds, on the contrary, resort to big lies. With them they want to influence our behavior, since they know they'll easier achieve their goals that way. Are their numerous contradictory statements also result of lies?
Manipulation. "With measures we want to protect your children. Protect your parents, your grandmas and grandpas. Protect your families." Did they really protect our families or did they break them? We can't visit our closest in hospitals and elderly homes, some youth still can't go to school lessons, parents not allowed to cheer children from stands at sports competitions. Aha, family only behind four walls. "Safe", but submissive and powerless. No, healthy and creative families are not goal of sick minds. Nor healthy society.
Sick minds attract sick minds. Empathic and honest people in their vicinity gradually voluntarily or due to discreditation drop out. Sick minds gain majority of other collaborators with manipulation. They exploit vulnerabilities and weaknesses of individuals: their pathological desire for rise on social ladder, suppressed ego, fear, their existential distress… Sick minds are no longer alone, surrounded by manipulated supporters. Pathocracy emerges, which spreads its tentacles into all social pores. Sick minds rule. Democratic institutions, safeguards of democracy and human rights are in their way. Therefore sick minds direct their discreditation and destructive arrows also at them.
So sick minds won't stop. Who can set boundaries for them? How will we regain our stolen rights? Institutions failed. First health system, which didn't protect the profession and allowed medicine to be used as repressive tool. Then legal system, which allowed trampling of legislation meant for protection of human rights. And finally education system, incubator of intellectualism and critical thinking. No, nodding or silent intellectuals are not subgroup of intellectuals. Nodding or silent intellectuals are not intellectuals. When all official institutions in the country fail, the institution of popular masses becomes the only institution that can regain our rights. Popular masses must have three characteristics: must be numerous, constant and have clear, common to all citizens and only goal – regaining basic human rights. Without basic rights we'll remain without all rights. We'll remain modern slaves of sick minds. Don't fear, with regained rights we won't endanger epidemic control.
On the scale is a lot, on the scale is our future. Who will be the winner? Sick minds or us? Sick minds have decided. How about us?
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Becar5. 08. 2021 11:21:25
Even more, sick minds or covid mafia as he calls them, filed charges against him, but the prosecutor dismissed them. So you know what sick minds try.
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VanSims5. 08. 2021 12:03:30
@tulipan:

Since you didn't answer my question about when and where you saw me on the ferrata on Coglians, where I allegedly can't count to five, I'll answer myself (provided that sighting of me isn't a complete figment of your imagination, based on my blog and post from 2012 on this forum):

FIRST, I've never been on the real true only ferrata on Coglians (Weg der 26).

But three years ago I was on Coban-Prunner weg, which is say a ferrata, at least from the junction with the aforementioned onwards. I was alone there, met no one except those Austrians at the start and when I was having a snack just before descending via Sentiero Spinotti, when they overtook me.

However, nine (9!) years ago, in 2012, I went up Spinotti. Since I went down via Rifugio Marinelli, the only possibility you saw me is there, on Spinotti.

SECOND, it was nine years ago, in 2012. Back then I had been actively hiking in the mountains for barely three years. For an experienced mountaineer, the relatively simple Spinotti was for me then like today e.g. some Jerman or at least Ožarjeni kamen or red Mojstrana.

In short, ON SECURED PATHS I WAS A BEGINNER, and ferratas I saw as some distant future.

It is REALLY LOW AND UNWORTHY OF A MOUNTAINEER FROM YOU TO MOCK BEGINNERS, saying they can't count to five.

You obviously belong to those little Slovenians (yes, abroad this almost didn't happen to me), who look down from their puffed-up ego and 'superiority' on everyone else, especially beginners, or those who don't hike mountains as they in their self-absorption think is the only right way. To be clear, I've met honest Slovenes too, positive personalities, and often happily chatted with them.

You belong to those who mock others, make remarks about them, overtake you and cheekily ask: "Will it go!", mock you if you carry a self-belay kit where they in their narrow-mindedness think it's not needed, mock (even on Triglav, as I've seen) those wearing helmets, saying "Is this guy going to the Himalayas?", shake the wire on ferrata if someone ahead gets stuck, kick rocks and mock those hit by the barrage... (all seen or even experienced)


WITH THIS YOU'VE REVEALED YOURSELF TO THE ENTIRE hribi.net AUDIENCE AS AN EXTREMELY INTOLERANT PERSON, unworthy of the honest title 'mountaineer', 'hiker' or whatever you hold yourself as. For me you're not only not credible, but an extremely despicable personality.

Oh, and Spinotti is a secured path, not a ferrata. That alone doesn't put you among some great experts.

Go ahead and post that picture and with that move, which despite everything on this portal has no equal, further demean or completely ruin your reputation. And know that PUBLISHING OTHER PEOPLE'S PERSONAL DATA (which a picture is), without permission, IS PUNISHABLE!

Not to say it's extremely despicable to stalk a person through their forum and blog posts. That you bother and have time. Old ladies with nothing else to do do that.
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SamoK5. 08. 2021 12:33:58
Of course, jax.
I didn't comment on that.
I also didn't comment on what the current government is like.
I only commented on your stupidity that the government shouldn't have issued the decree, or the stupidity that in democracies only parliament passes laws.
(Which of course applies to Slovenia too, so no point complaining about it.)
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tulipan5. 08. 2021 16:27:27
Dear Van Simon
I never stalked you.
You never published the date of your visit to the ferrata on Stol
I wouldn't about anyone's reputation, especially yours.
Everyone knows me as extremely patient, even as a guide.
What I am to you is your problem, which you'll have to solve yourself, not in general talks about Covid 19.
About little Slovenians just this: I am a resident of Slovenia who respects all laws. Were you on the ferrata on Stol that day?
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bostjanp5. 08. 2021 17:29:05
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gely5. 08. 2021 18:27:34
cool
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Becar5. 08. 2021 19:07:02
Today I read about a fresh lawsuit filed by the Mexican government against the American arms industry, which diligently sells weapons to the mafia and other guerrillas while deliberately sparking conflicts so that the business is, of course, successful.

We know which three lobbies have the most power in the world; arms, oil and....... yes, pharmaceuticals.

Now whoever can draw some parallels OK, whoever can't.... what can I say.... let them be unconditional devoted subjects of pharmaceuticals onward. nasmeh

Gely... this Sabina Senčar is surely a commie they'll say the Fantastični ... pardon Blocked 6 mežikanje In reality, let's ask how many mainstream media this case was published on. Because with covid they diligently published personal cases, even if the person was 70 years old in hospital and then fully recovered. Such things give you food for thought. Well, I know some don't mežikanje
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75'er5. 08. 2021 19:32:09
Becar, aren't you embarrassed to litter the forum with your frustrations?
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