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pantani123. 08. 2021 15:43:05
I'll get vaccinated when the vaccine is safe enough or when those who have problems after vaccination - side effects - are taken care of. As long as there is no group dealing only with this, the vaccine is not suitable for me. First, I have to waive all rights that the vaccine can cause upon vaccination, then no insurance company will pay the insurance that is a consequence of <COVID vaccination, because it's an experimental drug, no doctor after problems post-vaccination can help me, because there is not enough data and analyses. They prescribe everything to autoimmune disorders or psychological disorders, for which there is no cure. My health is fucked in the end. And no one deals with me anymore. That's what scares me and that's why I refuse vaccination.
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Becar23. 08. 2021 16:10:31
PV, he retired on this forum because he only had a few supporters left, one of whom is confirmed member of his over-vaccinated family (hint: Primož, thanks for saving us from epidemics with your sacrificial efforts.....), one hyped-up car wash guy who doesn't issue receipts, a friend with whom they climb the same via ferrata 20x a day, then someone who thinks about sex with old grannies, and of course the one who washed dogs, now goes to dog museums. In short, a colorful bunch, like straight out of the movie Deliverance.

Before leaving he completely lost it, he would perform lobotomies, forcibly vaccinate people, introduce concentration camps etc... Now supposedly spreading his mission on FB according to latest info. nasmeh

His few minions we smartly blocked, because they go Primož's way, bigger fascist nonsense every day.

Primož according to Kreka's predictions about outdoor masks will soon jump mountains again - with a mask velik nasmeh
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Becar23. 08. 2021 16:13:21
Pantani, based on your comment I conclude that Zavest or Jurček M forgot to read the post to the end velik nasmeh

Or rather reads only what suits him - seen that before mežikanje
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zavest23. 08. 2021 16:54:05
Pantani, come on, paste part(s) of the article that in your opinion speak against vaccination mežikanje

Irony is, Bećar himself is chiming in, the first and most deserving who "forgot to look to the end" (where the data source is cited) and "reads what suits him" velik nasmeh
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zavest23. 08. 2021 17:28:52
In the US, Pfizer's vaccine is fully approved from today onwards for everyone from 16 years and up. Source

Anti-vaxxers, you'll have to quickly come up with a new excuse, say that FDA is anyway part of the covid mafia and you can't trust anyone except ultra verified independent facebook sources? velik nasmeh
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Becar23. 08. 2021 17:39:18
Pantani1, the funniest thing in your article is that the portal is sponsored by covid mafia, which is written below, but they still messed up in the text velik nasmeh
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zavest23. 08. 2021 17:57:45
Of course, as soon as someone writes something contrary to anti-vaxx propaganda, they are already part of the covid mafia and subject to discrediting nasmeh How typical fascist tactics!

Texas is a republican state, and like Florida they are nicely "progressing" with high no. of infections, hospitalizations and deaths, especially among the large part of unvaccinated.

Even Trump called his voters to vaccinate, exclusively because otherwise a too large share of republican voters - dies! velik nasmeh

In light of these facts, here's covid mafia according to Becaretard logic zavijanje z očmi
The Texas Tribune is the only member-supported, digital-first, nonpartisan media organization that informs Texans — and engages with them — about public policy, politics, government and statewide issues.

Source: https://www.texastribune.org/about/
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VanSims23. 08. 2021 18:20:44
I see Becar has even longer and even more far-fetched treatises and sausages, who bothers to read them? zmeden

Well, here in Helsinki I rather enjoy Finnish beer and salmiak ice cream. nasmeh I would introduce it at home right away, just don't know how they would take it there.

But that 24 hours on Kredarica didn't escape me. They are horrified by Janša's vocabulary but they themselves are no better.

Here in Finland it's different than in Sweden. At the border the policeman was only interested in the vaccination certificate and nothing else. Masks are recommended indoors and about 80 percent of people follow it.
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Becar23. 08. 2021 19:01:45
A little help, if someone maybe can't extract the essence from Pantani's article:

DSHS doesn’t track the number of COVID-19 hospitalizations among vaccinated people statewide because hospitals are not required to report that information to the state.

But now I won't help anymore, because then it's already like unblocking Jurček and reading his delusions, I really don't want that in my life anymore velik nasmeh
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Hribolaznik23. 08. 2021 19:09:06
Because I notice that knowledge about diseases is rather poor, it needs a little refresh. Well let's start, let's see a bit why we vaccinate in Slovenia for everything.

FIRST YEAR OF AGE
3 months
diphtheria (D), tetanus (T), whooping cough (P), haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib), polio
(IPV) (1st dose DTPHibIPV), pneumococcal infections (1st dose PCV)
4 to 5 months
diphtheria (D), tetanus (T), whooping cough (P), haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib), polio
(IPV) (2nd dose DTPHibIPV)
6 months
diphtheria (D), tetanus (T), whooping cough (P), haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib), polio
(IPV) (3rd dose DTPHibIPV), pneumococcal infections (2nd dose PCV)

SECOND YEAR OF AGE
12 to 18 months
measles (O), mumps (M), rubella (R) (1st dose MMR), pneumococcal infections
(3rd dose PCV)
12 to 24 months
diphtheria (D), tetanus (T), whooping cough (P), haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib), polio
(IPV) (4th dose - booster DTPHibIPV)

BEFORE ENTERING SCHOOL
5 to 6 years
measles (O), mumps (M), rubella (R) (2nd dose MMR) and hepatitis B (1st and 2nd dose
HBV)

SCHOOL PERIOD
1st grade elementary
hepatitis B (3rd dose HBV)
3rd grade elementary
diphtheria (D), tetanus (T), whooping cough (P) (5th dose - booster DTP)
6th grade elementary
human papillomavirus infections (HPV) (1st and 2nd dose)
during systematic
check in high school tetanus (T) (6th dose - booster T)

In Slovenia besides mandatory vaccination of preschool and school children, there are also other
vaccinations, namely against diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, hepatitis A and B, tick-borne
encephalitis, rabies, yellow fever, typhoid, haemophilus influenzae type b infections,
pneumococcal and meningococcal infections, polio, chickenpox, herpes zoster, flu,
human papillomavirus infections (HPV) and against rotavirus infections.

DIPHTHERIA
In Slovenia after 1967 we no longer recorded a case of diphtheria. The favorable epidemiological situation is attributed to vaccination, which was introduced as early as 1937. Despite
this, there is still a probability that the diphtheria pathogen is found in the throat, but
due to high vaccination coverage of the population, it is currently unlikely that the disease would spread.
In addition to mandatory childhood vaccination against diphtheria, this vaccination is mandatory by program for all
adults who may be exposed to infection risk, upon epidemiological indication set by NIJZ.
Vaccination against diphtheria is also done for persons/employees who travel on duty to
endemic areas (e.g. soldiers, businessmen...) and for employees who in laboratory work
may be exposed to the diphtheria bacillus.
Vaccination against diphtheria is mandatory also for travelers who have not been vaccinated or were vaccinated
incompletely or more than
ten years have passed since the last dose of complete vaccination or booster and they travel to areas where there is a diphtheria epidemic.
Vaccination is done with combined vaccine against diphtheria and tetanus or with combined
vaccine against diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough (trivalent vaccine is used in
adults as booster dose only once and not for basic vaccination).

TETANUS
Results of systematic vaccination against tetanus, which started in 1951, are good, as for many
years we have not recorded neonatal tetanus or tetanus in children. The problem is
vaccination of the elderly, so among them we recorded individual cases of tetanus every year. In
2018 we recorded two cases of tetanus in Slovenia.
In addition to vaccination of children and youth, pre-exposure vaccination
of adults is mandatory in Slovenia. Basic vaccination is done for persons who have not been vaccinated. Booster doses
are needed by program in adults every ten years.
Post-exposure vaccination is carried out in case of tetanus-prone wound in injuries.

WHOOPING COUGH
Whooping cough is a disease of children and adults and also occurs in outbreaks. The highest
mortality and most severe course of the disease is in children under 6 months. Lately the
disease often occurs also in adolescents and adults, who can be a source of infection for the most
endangered group of children. In Slovenia we still record cases of this disease every year, but the number of cases after the start of systematic vaccination of children against whooping cough in 1959 has strongly decreased.
According to the vaccination program and protection with medicines, mandatory vaccination of children against
whooping cough is carried out in Slovenia. In addition, vaccination against whooping cough for
adults is recommended upon medical indication (after hematopoietic stem cell transplant) and epidemiological
indication. Vaccination against whooping cough is at least once recommended for persons who in adulthood have not yet received a booster dose against whooping cough, particularly recommended for pregnant women, as soon as possible after 24th week of pregnancy and specifically with every pregnancy.

MEASLES, MUMPS AND RUBELLA
To achieve elimination of measles in Europe, which is the goal of the World Health Organization, it is
essential to maintain a high proportion of vaccinated, otherwise there is a possibility of rapid spread of measles
in case of importation of the disease into the country and reappearance of endogenous transmission of measles. In
recent years the estimated proportion of vaccinated preschoolers in Slovenia is decreasing and we no longer
achieve 95% vaccination coverage, which still provides herd immunity. Therefore upon
appearance of measles it is important to actively search for unvaccinated or vaccinated with only one
dose and vaccinate as soon as possible. For complete vaccination two doses of vaccine are needed.
According to the Vaccination Program and protection with medicines children receive the first
dose in the second year of age, the second before entering school, namely combined vaccine against measles,
rubella and mumps.

POLIO
Under the leadership of the World Health Organization, a global world campaign is underway
to eradicate polio. Since its beginning, the number of cases worldwide
has decreased by more than 99%. Polio thus remains endemic only in a few countries in the
world. Although the World Health Organization declared elimination of polio in Europe on 21.6.2002, systematic vaccination against this disease will be needed until the disease is eradicated worldwide.
The doctrine of vaccination against polio is changing and more and more countries are replacing the use of
live oral vaccine with inactivated, parenteral vaccine in various combinations.
Also in Slovenia since 2003 we use inactivated polio vaccine. The last
nine cases of polio were recorded in Slovenia in 1978.

TYPHOID
The vaccination and protection with medicines program defines that vaccination against typhoid is mandatory for
persons living in the same household with a typhoid carrier and also for persons who
have an epidemiological indication for vaccination.
Vaccination against typhoid is done for employees who in their work may come into contact with
human feces and municipal waste (e.g. municipal workers, ...). This also applies to
employees who travel on duty to areas where there is a risk of typhoid infection.
Vaccination against typhoid is recommended for persons traveling to areas where due to
epidemiological situation there is a risk of infection with the typhoid pathogen.
In 2018, 3381 persons were vaccinated against typhoid in Slovenia, in 2017 2585 persons. Against typhoid most often vaccinate travelers in international traffic, by
age persons aged 19 to 64 years.
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Becar23. 08. 2021 19:15:35
You wrote that well and very comprehensively. In elementary school you would get a five and even a bee sticker in the notebook.

But in this topic you get unsatisfactory with signature for parents, because you compare diseases with 10 and more percent mortality with covid cold 0.14% mortality. Just for feeling....flu is supposed to have mortality around 0.25%. nasmeh
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pantani123. 08. 2021 19:32:58
zavest, even if it got full approval (which is bs), it's still experimental, since clinical studies are not completed yet.
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pantani123. 08. 2021 19:35:14
There are several types of vaccination supporters and opponents, each funny in their own way. Let's first go to supporters. Supporter 1: "I got vaccinated because IJJ is up there." Supporter 2: "I got vaccinated because I trust the experts and pharmacists and know that the vaccine surely works (although those tested in phase 1 were never exposed to the virus, covid tracker statistics show that the vaccine prevents 42.5% infections and 60% severe course of disease)" Supporter 3: "I got vaccinated so I don't have to stick a swab in my nose every 48h, so I can easily cross the border and go to the cinema." Anyway laughter. Now let's go to opponents: Opponent 1: "I don't want to get vaccinated because IJJ is up there." Opponent 2: "I don't want to get vaccinated because there's a chip or plutonium in the vaccine." That's it for funny comments. Now I'll describe myself. I think: "I don't want to get vaccinated because statistically I have 0.02% chance with fatal outcome, vaccinated can still infect grandpa, I'm not a test rabbit for pharmacists where main goal is profit, health second. I don't want to get vaccinated because covid tracker data shows vaccine prevents infections in 42.5% and severe course in 60%, which for me is too small percentage. On the other hand I don't deny vaccination to those 50+, because it might even save them with that 60%, even if pharmacists have capital profits. They won't kill you on purpose, because if you believe that, then you believe that if someone dies on an oil rig, the employer killed him on purpose. The matter is simple, if someone dies on an oil rig either employer didn't invest enough in safety or employee didn't follow instructions. But if you have 0.02% chance with fatal outcome, then no need to go to oil rig." Is that also funny?
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pantani123. 08. 2021 19:57:55
Copy:


The vaccine is not fully approved. It has only received an extension of use under EUA (pandemic), which it already has. ww.fda.gov/media/151707/download. It's a study done by Pfizer itself.. Page 12 – Pfizer Inc. This product has not been approved or licensed by FDA, but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA, under an EUA to prevent Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) for use in individuals 12 years of age and older. The journalist of course most easily translates the article of another journalist who translated the article of another journalist who translated the article of another journalist.. No hurry to get vaccinated, 24ur writes approved
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Becar23. 08. 2021 20:33:37
According to the article that I also read today, Pfizer has obviously invented a TIME MACHINE.

Because I can't explain it any other way how they analyzed long-term side effects.
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zavest23. 08. 2021 21:12:41
How did they analyze long-term side effects of COVID? mežikanje
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Becar24. 08. 2021 07:22:13
Due to highly toxic ethylene oxide, already 150 products removed from stores. Just to remind, ethylene oxide was also found on testing swabs. During testing you get it directly on the mucous membrane.


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gely24. 08. 2021 09:56:02
Greek lawyer Nikos Antoniadis announces a 4311-page lawsuit he filed against the Greek prime minister,
members of the ministry council, COVID experts, Covid hospitals, media, certain judges and prosecutors, Facebook company and Greek "fact-checkers" and all others who collaborate in the criminal organization established in Greece that committed criminal acts against Greeks to support the "pandemic" narrative using two protocols: Fraud Protocol and Death Protocol.
Follows another lawsuit proving that the final scope of the pandemic narrative is mass murder of part of the population within a global depopulation plan achieved using the third protocol: Mass Vaccination Protocol


https://www.brighteon.com/d7732c6d-e53a-4e70-85cd-9e7167c0a683
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Becar24. 08. 2021 10:16:40
Great for Greeks. Here with us lawyers for now just shout on FB and wait for Godot
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Trobec24. 08. 2021 11:16:38
Becar, once again, you have no knowledge in this area, don't embarrass yourself.

If you get ethylene oxide "directly on the mucous membrane" with swabs, then you get it directly into you with pacemaker, artificial hip, various stomas, not even listing further. Sterilization of medical devices with EO is a fairly standard method. With food it's a bit different. EO is volatile and evaporates quickly from surfaces. Mixed into food though it stays there much longer, and can cause a whole bunch of reactions.

Yes, in this corona hysteria a lot of things went and still go wrong. I'd say many things go wrong on purpose, mildly put.
Don't know if you realize... but people like you with all these phrases only lower the credibility of justified concerns and raise the credibility of the authorities and those advocating all senseless measures.
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