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Becar24. 08. 2021 11:57:26
That's your opinion, I don't know on what basis, my opinion is based on medical research, what they found on those swabs.

And I'll tell you something else. Show me hips and pacemakers that are packed by some dirty snotty slipper guys in completely cluttered and contaminated basements in China. I already posted that proof and picture on this portal. So don't embarrass yourself with the comparison of artificial hips and these "rice" swabs.

You know for such things you don't need to be a doctor, just a pinch of common sense and you see. Or if you don't want, you don't see.
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klovn24. 08. 2021 12:17:45
@gely:
Do you think they really started depopulation with a virus that is less than 1% deadly? Rather I'd say they succeed with alcohol, sugar, cigarettes, plastic and fatty food etc...
After all it is true that depopulation is the only solution for this planet, but concrete depopulation!! The most ecological act is that we stop reproducing, at least in such quantities as happens in modern times.
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Zebdi24. 08. 2021 12:20:20
Ehm. What do completely cluttered and contaminated basements have to do with sterilization done with EO? Is the problem EO or cluttered basements?
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zavest24. 08. 2021 13:19:42
Bravo @Trobec, nicely written and substantiated with professional basis. Bećar already shows misunderstanding of the written and his own scope in the next reply nasmeh

@Klovn: I agree, depopulation should be concrete for the real effect, say odd-even velik nasmeh
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Becar24. 08. 2021 14:04:51
Haha, how some of you are.... gely nicely wrote that it's about a connection in depopulation at the expense of vaccines and not the virus. But you're masters at twisting words and someone manipulated might take you seriously.

I suggest we go together on two excursions:

- first to a high-tech factory where they make artificial hips, see how they disinfect there, in what quantities EO is found on the hip after dispatch, packaging method, staff hygiene measures, what standards the company must meet, what inspections they undergo....

- then to some Chinese basement of a Majbert, where you slip on shit, tests and masks on bare floors, sweaty people without any hand protection and other hygiene measures in EO there one dips a bit, one scratches his ass a bit....

Come on, stop pretending and ridiculing. That comparison was like between a junkyard and a Mercedes.
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zavest24. 08. 2021 14:06:33
Welcome, today's registered anti-vaxxer, unable to find such hidden sources that are published in front of everyone's eyes on national RTV media and most read 24ur velik nasmeh

Aug 19:
"British data analysis showed that fully vaccinated adults, if infected with the delta variant of the new coronavirus, can have as much virus in them as unvaccinated. Still holds that vaccinated are much better protected from hospitalization and death." (Study not yet peer-reviewed)

https://www.rtvslo.si/moja-generacija/analiza-cepljeni-so-bolj-zasciteni-a-lahko-prenasajo-toliko-virusa-kot-necepljeni/591249

Aug 3:
"... vaccinated against covid-19 can also be carriers of the new coronavirus, as no vaccine is 100% effective. Israeli data show that protection against delta variant is slowly declining, but vaccination still protects from severe course. Studies show infected vaccinated transmit disease to others same as unvaccinated, only difference is shorter virus shedding time, which contributes to somewhat slower spread. "But when someone is infectious, situation with vaccinated and unvaccinated is comparable..."

https://www.24ur.com/novice/korona/v-sloveniji-veliko-necepljenih-starejsih-to-nam-povzroca-velike-skrbi.html

Do I need to add dates? Because with Bećar and similar you never know if they live in projections of 2019 or like JJ in 91-92 velik nasmeh
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Becar24. 08. 2021 14:16:49
And how else, vaxxers? How many of you have already had the 3rd jab? Does anyone know when you can get 4th, 5th, 6th...? velik nasmeh


You probably know that with each new dose the probability that you will someday be victim of some severe side effects increases (adds up)?

Is it really worth it at 0.14% mortality disease? With vaccines with unknown long-term effects? I will never understand you nasmeh

I'm really interested, tell a bit how trends are going among you, besides what we know about Israel and Iceland.
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pelister24. 08. 2021 14:29:28
@zavest:

Share of vaccinated in Israel (16 Aug 2021): 78% of those over 12 years old (source: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta)

85-90% of hospitalizations and 95% of severe cases (severe patients) are fully vaccinated (source: director of Herzog hospital in Jerusalem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuGV2NSLqRI)

So vaccination increases probability of hospitalization and especially severe course thereof.
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Becar24. 08. 2021 14:32:40
While our doctors and shamans scare with (again) the worst wave, you can read what happened in Denmark.

In Copenhagen the parliament decided to stop all corona measures from October 1, 2021. No more mask requirements and the inspection/check system will be abolished. Danes after that don't need to provide proof whether they are vaccinated or not, whether their test is positive or negative. Denmark is the first European country to abolish all C O V I D restrictions.

link
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Becar24. 08. 2021 14:35:27
Welcome pelister, we gladly accept you into this group of people who know how to use common sense and haven't fallen for the world political plandemic.

Soon you'll realize that in this group there are also specimens to whom you show black coal, and they'll say it's white coal. Yeah, it's gotten that bad velik nasmeh
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zavest24. 08. 2021 14:42:07
@pelister, excellent conclusion you drew, bravo. What do you think happens at 100% vaccinated population? In hospitals only vaccinated eek

Did you know that child car seats increase probability of autism? Every single autistic was in child seat as baby. In 98.75% people nothing happens, but why risk with child seats, what if the kid grows into Bećaretard velik nasmeh
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pelister24. 08. 2021 15:04:18
@zavest: I think we agree how it will be at 100% vaccinated population. At 78% vaccination rate let's do short calculation:

Data:
78% vaccinated, 85-90% hospitalized, 95% with severe course
22% unvaccinated, 10-15% hospitalized, 5% with severe course

Probability for hospitalization is 1.6 to 2.5 times higher in vaccinated than unvaccinated (85/78*22/15=1.6, 90/78*22/10=2.5).
Probability for severe course of hospitalization is 5.4 times higher in vaccinated than unvaccinated (95/78*22/5=5.4).
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zavest24. 08. 2021 15:22:52
Yes, let's do a quick calculation:
The original interview is 1:48 minutes long https://www.facebook.com/193800937377053/videos/582882009756312

The linked video is 42 seconds long: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuGV2NSLqRI

So it's missing 1:06 minutes of material mežikanje Absolutely the statements are not taken out of context and edited to fit the anti-vaxxers' agenda, right? Anti-vaxxers surely wouldn't do that velik nasmeh

Here is a more balanced article:
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-doctors-find-severe-covid-19-breakthrough-cases-mostly-older-sicker-2021-08-20/

"The vaccinated patients are older, unhealthy, often they were bedridden before infection, immobile and already requiring nursing care," said Noa Eliakim-Raz, head of the coronavirus ward at Rabin Medical Centre in Petach Tikva.

In contrast, "the unvaccinated COVID patients we see are young, healthy, working people and their condition deteriorates rapidly," she said. "Suddenly they're being put on oxygen or on a respirator."
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Becar24. 08. 2021 15:28:54
Pelister, our Zavest or Jure as we call him at home, doesn't understand this level of mathematics. I've already tried but it doesn't work. I advise you not to respond to his provocations from the start, even better to block him, because he's a provoker "par excellence". Just advice, no hard feelings.
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pelister24. 08. 2021 15:56:54
@Becar: I won't block anyone, better to convince with arguments

@zavest: the 1:48-minute-long interview was made at the latest on July 23, the 42-second one on August 5
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Becar24. 08. 2021 16:35:58
Pelister, I warned you in Nostradamus style about the inevitable future, good luck and above all steel nerves velik nasmeh


Vaxxers say that of course in Israel most hospitalized are vaccinated because proportionally more vaccinated. Say there are 2000 covid patients in hospitals, of which 1500 vaccinated and 500 unvaccinated. So if 100% vaccination, by vaxxer logic there will be 2000 vaccinated and 0 unvaccinated in hospitals.

Damn, why are there 2000 VACCINATED in covid hospitals in the first place? velik nasmeh

Let me answer the vaxxers so their brains don't burn. People have always died and will. Usually in old age and in hospitals. When you reach that phase to go, you'll get 1001 viruses, cold, flu, pneumonia, sepsis... PCR in 40 cycles will of course show covid, even if you have aids. Because most elderly who die are vaccinated for covid cold, of course there are such there, whether they have covid or not, vaccinated or not....in this phase it practically doesn't matter if you were ever vaccinated for anything.

Of course the covid mafia exploited the natural process, in this case dying, to inflate their statistics and pockets. But pockets are slowly tearing, money is leaking out, nice traces are forming for future court processes and prison sentences.
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Becar24. 08. 2021 17:05:39
Now let's think back to the time when FLU hadn't died out yet. If you went to the doctor, he peeked in your throat, listened to breathing and pulse and wrote that you have flu. But how did he know you have flu? How many of you had the doctor confirm flu with PCR test? Of course NOBODY. Ask yourself why.

Again a very simple answer. Because first, flu for a healthy person up to 70 years is no bogeyman, although statistically more dangerous than covid. And second, because a bunch of PCR specialist scientists have been saying all along that PCR test is NOT SUITABLE for covid or flu testing. Not to mention rapid tests that are positive on coca cola, vinegar, wine, yogurt....I'd list sooner what they are NOT positive on.
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pantani124. 08. 2021 19:52:59
Enough is enough!!!


Listen, with the covid-19 vaccine they promised almost 100% protection. Now we know they lied.... They promised vaccinated would rarely get sick, get over the disease easier, but we see most hospitalized are vaccinated.... They promised permanent protection, now introducing third dose, maybe fourth needed, maybe vaccinate every six months so they don't close schools, bars, companies…? .... They promised vaccines are safe, but now we find they are dangerous, people have permanent damage from vaccines and even die.... They promised vaccinated won't transmit the virus, but evidence says vaccinated transmit and spread infection.... They promised vaccination voluntary, now blackmailing unvaccinated and threatening them in every way. That's why many risked their health to go on vacation, attend events and sports events. Now scaring that they'll close schools if we don't vaccinate even those who don't get sick. Blackmailing vaccination to work, socialize and at the same time swear vaccination is voluntary???...Everyone on feet...whole world. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!
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SamoK24. 08. 2021 20:26:29
>Everyone on their feet... the whole world.

...said from the couch.
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