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| Trobec27. 08. 2021 11:03:51 |
I wouldn't want to be treated with ivermectin at all. Except if I had a really severe form and if ivermectin's effectiveness was unequivocally proven.
But it's somewhat interesting to me when someone rejects vaccination because allegedly side effects aren't known (regarding long-term that's generally true)...but would gladly fill up with ivermectin. Because there they are known...and mildly put, anything but mild.
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| zavest27. 08. 2021 11:07:30 |
"Nothing is said" about side effects? Then you read the Hribipikanet Journal of Medical Science poorly, namely hundreds of people die after vaccination, dramatic testimonies are almost first-hand, pioneer honor, all from real people from reliable Facebook sources 
Even in the media it's really hard to miss posts that mention exactly that: side effects exist and risks are there. Just like with everything, including a hike in the mountains on an easy trail, nothing is completely risk-free.
But for some it's too hard to understand that the risk of complications from covid infection itself is several times higher than from vaccination.
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| pantani127. 08. 2021 11:10:38 |
Logar: "The higher the vaccination rate, the smaller the possibility of virus spread". Unfortunately the ECDC map shows otherwise, EU countries that are most vaccinated have the most infected. For the first time Germany overtook us in number of infected!
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| Becar27. 08. 2021 11:16:05 |
Who to trust? Which experts? Milan, Bojana, Mateja and generally our on-duty minister Jajot and his Triglav doctor about whom videos of masturbation during working hours are currently circulating or say some world health eminences with the listed references?
Dr Roger Hodkinson, pathologist
- graduate of the University of Cambridge
- fellow of the American College of Pathologists
- Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada
- lecturer at the University of Cambridge
- president of the Alberta laboratory profession association
- president of the Canadian research board for pathology
- executive director of a large medical laboratory
- currently president of an American biotech company for DNA sequencing
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| Becar27. 08. 2021 11:26:02 |
Are we really some manipulated babies that we can't even ask why our main media don't publish opinions of these experts? Why no debates. Even more, why are these experts censored and in our country even persecuted? Why are they threatened with license revocation, jobs?
Anyone who demands answers and expresses doubts is for example blocked for 14 days or 30 days on the main forums of this country. Why? Where has reason gone?
What is the essence of science? RESEARCH. You always have to ask questions and since forever in science it was held that as long as there are no more doubts and until there are irrefutable proofs about some theory, it is exclusively a theory. Current covid science is RELIGION. This is not S for science.
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| Becar27. 08. 2021 11:45:38 |
Aha, "genial" statements of Jurček I see every now and then also through quotes from others. i.e., mocking of Ivermectin....
Below you have a good article about this drug in connection with Covid treatment, how many doctors have already reported positive effects, what percentage of independent studies have shown effects, how censorship happened after already approved articles, how many 100 million people have already received Ivermectin and which European countries are already using it for covid treatment.
And of course, what is the main enemy of Ivermectin, LOW PRICE!
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| zavest27. 08. 2021 12:56:15 |
One interlocutor claims that cars are powered by internal combustion engines or electric motors.
The other claims that cars are powered by dwarves who turn the wheels.
What is balanced reporting in this case? (source)
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| Becar27. 08. 2021 13:03:27 |
Legend Eric Clapton about his catastrophic experience with vaccination:
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| Aljoman27. 08. 2021 13:17:07 |
@zavest: "For some it's too hard to understand that the risk of complications from covid infection itself is several times greater than from vaccination."
How should I know if this is true when no one talks (out loud) about complications after vaccination.
You don't have to be sarcastic, I'm just wondering how you can close your eyes when you didn't have serious or mild problems after vaccination, but many did.
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| Becar27. 08. 2021 13:45:44 |
The most respected scientists also spoke about the sun orbiting the earth, the one who claimed otherwise was burned at the stake. In their time they also laughed at Einstein when he said time is relative or at Tesla, who was considered a "mad scientist" among academics, but today is considered one of the greatest geniuses of all time.
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| zavest27. 08. 2021 13:48:56 |
Now you know why the third dose is needed!
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| zavest27. 08. 2021 14:09:24 |
@Aljoman, how do you mean that "no one talks out loud about side effects"? Every now and then you have records on the front page of the largest media portals about it, likewise in newspapers, there were on daily news shows, etc. Is all that listed not enough? Not to mention debates on social networks.
In short, it's easier to find mainstream media records about vaccine effects than parking regulations in Bohinj (yes, rubbing salt in the fresh wound  ).
I myself wrote here some time ago that I had milder effects after Pfizer, similar to a cold: elevated temperature, worse well-being, pain at the injection site, consequently I avoided excessive efforts after both doses. Similar with family members and friends, except those with AZ after 1st dose usually had even stronger side effects.
None of the close ones and acquaintances had severe effects requiring hospitalization and no one died. Judging by the hysteria of some up here, it should have already taken away at least half of my relatives
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| zavest27. 08. 2021 14:13:56 |
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| Becar27. 08. 2021 14:24:16 |
Regarding the benefit / side effects ratio of vaccines.
What is the ratio if I am not in any risk group and get vaccinated?
What is the ratio for vaccinating children?
And one more "blasphemous" question for the stake; what is the ratio if vaccines don't work, as data from the most vaccinated countries currently suggest?
Of course science has no answer to the above questions, because due to absence of serial autopsies after deaths from covid and after deaths from vaccination they didn't do them. Therefore whoever says off the cuff that benefits outweigh side effects is a CHARLATAN to me. This is not science.
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| zavest27. 08. 2021 14:45:22 |
Antivaxxers you'll go into history as corona collaborators. COLLABORATORS 
You'll even get monuments. On the shitter
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| Becar27. 08. 2021 15:01:30 |
My brother has a company, one employee is his age, both outside risk groups. Employee went for vaccination and was off work 1 week due to 3-day fever, then also weakness and muscle pains. Few weeks later brother (unvaxxed) got covid. All he had was slightly sore throat and weakened smell, after three days like new. All that time in quarantine he could do everything normally, no fatigue, nothing. One month later both did antibody test which showed brother about 10x higher antibodies than worker.
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| zavest27. 08. 2021 15:09:47 |
Of course boss takes all merits, worker gets crumbs. You see war profiteering is deeply rooted in the family
And covid brother of course caught from vaccinated worker exhaling spike proteins! 
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| Becar27. 08. 2021 17:26:45 |
Dear vaxxers, extremists. A video circulating on the internet shows how your Triglav doctor Miha, one of the most extreme zealous vaxxers who insults unvaxxed a lot, during work time shoves banana down throat, in other video masturbates.
Now two things interest me, I'll temporarily unblock you:
1) Is this that healthcare overload they talk about?
2) Is this some association of your likes with similar inclinations?
Thanks for answers. Regards
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