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Becar10. 09. 2021 21:43:34
370 suicides? I thought there were no more of those, exclusively Covid. Now paste the source since you're so smart, how they determined the 4000 Corona victims. I gave you my 2 sources from high circles yesterday. Let's see yours too.

Listen Jure, you as a conscientious and obedient citizen can get the third jab without qualification. How else will you defend yourself from the Delta strain? There is enough vaccine, you don't need to be solidary anymore velik nasmeh What bothers you that you wouldn't decide FOR based on your views? nasmeh

Dreaming of projections again... show on Statista graphs that they are projections. Can't? Try in Paint Shop Pro, see if you can make it not look like fake..... velik nasmeh
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zavest10. 09. 2021 22:16:03
Here you go on the 4000 deaths, starting with the methodology: https://medium.com/sledilnik/zakaj-razlike-v-%C5%A1tevilu-umrlih-3-del-9a1d740daf82

Let me know if you manage:
a) to read to the end
b) to understand what is written

Regarding the third dose, it was already explained above by Zoki that there is no need yet. Otherwise, I will gladly listen to your latest findings on why you would go against expert recommendations, which are six months after the 2nd dose mežikanje

For Statista, the burden of proof is on you, given past fiascos with citing old data mežikanje Until then, you are not credible.
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Becar10. 09. 2021 22:20:58
Still no one has answered my very simple question.

How is it possible that this year, after 45% vaccination and the introduction of the PCT condition, we have 20-30X more infections than last year at this time? And why is it even worse in Israel with even higher (almost exemplary) vaccination rate, both in terms of infections and hospitalizations?

Thank you for the answers and greetings!


P.S.: Jurček, the answer is wrong, official number of fatalities on the basis of autopsy = 0. See, you lied about Statista too, you liar. You can't just say things off the top of your head if you have no idea. The expert finding is that the 2nd dose protects against Delta only 35%. No no no, what are you twisting the conversation, from a corona zealot like you I would expect that you won't wait 6 months, but pitch a tent on the eve of the 3rd dose vaccination.
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grega_z_brega10. 09. 2021 22:56:34
Because we healthy ones have to test ourselves, virus spreaders have a "paper" that they are healthy.
Read three articles on 24 kur, and everything is clear to you, let alone if you inquire what is happening out in the world.zavijanje z očmi
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SamoK11. 09. 2021 06:10:11
>Read three articles on 24 kur, and it's all clear to you

Blessed are you to be so smart.
I read a lot, including three articles in 24ur, foreign sources too, but I don't even know what there will be for lunch, let alone understand if Denmark is an example of good functioning or under covid-mafia rule. (Or just waiting to go Israel's way, as was already said.)
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gely11. 09. 2021 07:31:14
absolutely the important people would be in some bunkers.... or special rooms
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VanSims11. 09. 2021 07:32:30
"How is it possible that this year after 45% vaccination ..."

The key is in the sentence itself from number 4 onwards. And of course 3-4 times higher contagiousness of delta and consequently exponential curves that go much much steeper upwards than previous variants.

And you supposedly have technical education?
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SamoK11. 09. 2021 08:00:22
>absolutely the important people would be in some bunkers.... or special rooms

Why in bunkers??? Boring.
We'd rather be on islands with nice weather and good service mežikanje
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Becar11. 09. 2021 08:24:06
Van, I don't know if you have some quick course, I have high technical education, in logic and math I always excelled, daily I'm involved professionally in complex analytical solving of technical problems and I'm very successful at it.

So some pop statistical flowers won't convince me you know nasmeh Especially not some propaganda experts who already have water up to their throats so they have to lie about some deaths of high school grads nasmeh

If you quickly crammed some evening school, I'll give you a technical life advice. Always ask why, how, calculate something yourself, don't listen to media owned by multinationals, always doubt the received information. Inquire if there are other expert opinions, research.... That's how natural scientists do it, not government science that attaches an article from New York Times as one of the key proofs.

But I'm afraid you're already too "fallen in" and my advice won't help anymore. With some it really looks like they've turned on 5G for you velik nasmeh
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zavest11. 09. 2021 10:41:52
Gobec and sapa, or however you say it nasmeh
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VanSims11. 09. 2021 11:30:49
Becar, here on the forum you absolutely don't show your shining logic. That was told to you besides your opponents even by some of your like-minded people.

As for me, don't worry, I know how to read something else besides official media and I know how to be critical and as I've repeated many times, I know the government has fucked up a lot in this pandemic. Otherwise we'll judge finally after the mandate expires. And of course consider what opposition it had too...

But that doesn't mean I deny the virus or its danger or the importance of vaccination. I distinguish that.
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Becar11. 09. 2021 11:54:39
My logic of course is not understood by the less educated or however Janko says it, let's influence the uneducated and narrow-minded and tell them they are educated because they got vaccinated velik nasmeh

Otherwise education in SLO goes something like this velik nasmeh Van, you who have all the data, who bought the diploma, how will you comment. Constitutional lawyer A. Teršek is also uneducated or why is he against these measures?

And one more thing by the way. Are those at NIJZ also uneducated because they don't want to get vaccinated? velik nasmeh
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SamoK11. 09. 2021 12:28:40
>Constitutional lawyer A. Teršek is also uneducated or why is he against these measures?

Many are against the measures.
Your problem, dude, is that you scare people against the vaccine, for which you'll very likely soon be criminally accountable.
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VanSims11. 09. 2021 12:58:34
And my comment? The bigger a cretin and a primitive someone is, the more flattering education titles they boast about.

Name and surname of the one who didn't want to get vaccinated at NIJZ?
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pantani111. 09. 2021 14:12:58
Slovenia, pandemic plan: Majda, write. First corona bonuses. Second all at the trough in highest pay grade. Zdravc, you still know that guy for ventilators? Ok, let's procure 300 pieces. Mr. Janez, we don't have staff who know how to work with them? Doesn't matter, important they are here. Zdravc, don't forget. Margin is 50%. Tonin, call that Bosnian, let him bring masks. We cover the fueling in Postojna. Wait, seems we forgot something? Majda, you have bonuses noted? velik nasmehvelik nasmehvelik nasmeh
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Becar11. 09. 2021 14:36:39
Samo, don't embarrass yourself. I express my opinion, which I have the right to express as much as I want. My opinion is based on professional studies, which I judge to be correct. You and those like you can stand on your head a hundred times. Colleague, freedom of speech, do you even know what that is, or are you completely gone inside zavijanje z očmi You're really pathetic already.

I inform you that from today on I will write even more about my opinion on vaccines. Satisfied? Tell me, where did you learn to behave so rudely? Prohibition of expression? Is that some fascism basics course? Are there already private fascist schools? velik nasmeh

Van, who at NIJZ didn't vaccinate, just ask Milan, he reported the percentages, maybe he'll reveal more if you bring him a chocolate.
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SamoK11. 09. 2021 15:27:51
Do I hear your voice trembling? mežikanje
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VanSims11. 09. 2021 15:36:12
I didn't delete anything, where do you get that again.

At my place, if someone deletes something it's the admins who delete every slightest politically incorrect phrase, because they fear that due to committing a criminal offense on their site, police would come to their door, insults from one and the other side they calmly allow, not realizing that this is also a criminal offense of insult, which can also bring police to their home.

"Van, who at NIJZ didn't vaccinate, just ask Milan, he reported percentages, ..."

You claim they didn't vaccinate, you have to say.

Oh and regarding that Dr: Pity the country that has such primitive constitutional lawyers. No wonder it consequently has such a deranged constitutional court. Now it's clear to me that constitutional judges are not on any drug, but it's obviously innate to them ...
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vzpon11. 09. 2021 16:47:45
Go to the mountains, to nature because it's nice weather. With this you'll help yourselves a lot.
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Becar11. 09. 2021 20:16:34
Big salute to Mr. Croatian President Milanović for realistic thinking!

link

Meanwhile here freshly introduced PCT in (almost) all shops, all activities, banks, post offices...

Well, it'll go, until someone snaps like that one with the gun on the coast years ago. Then we can thank this authority with its unconstitutional and illegal decrees.
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