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Aljoman17. 09. 2021 07:22:08
Sometimes you overlook the scam, sometimes you're just scammed. Interesting how some let themselves be scammed.
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zavest17. 09. 2021 11:08:51
Hehe, not even a week has Bećar held out to not return to the thread, even with a Sargon alter-ego velik nasmeh
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VanSims18. 09. 2021 10:04:12
Aljoman, from now on, regarding communication between us two, you're talking to yourself ... velik nasmeh mežikanje

Charge your energy batteries on someone else. nasmeh
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Sargon18. 09. 2021 23:59:56
On the black anniversary of 9/11, DELO happily stated on the front page: There are no reservations in the constitution for mandatory vaccination.
>> Experts emphasize that the state must do everything to establish a healthy living environment for the entire society and this takes precedence over the interests of the individual. <<

There are always inventive legal experts who won't distinguish between the interests of the individual and fundamental human rights, who will greedily seek verbal tricks and won't care what this will bring to ordinary people in real life.

After all, the Germans in 1933 also had top lawyers and their legislation looked flawless. American judges in Nuremberg had problems because the Nazis took many ideas directly from the legislation of the American confederation, and the USA was still a segregationist country back then, after the war. It was only in 1964 with the Civil Rights Act that they emancipated all citizens.

The Soviet constitution was also advanced in many respects and there was no mention of gulags. So let's not forget Solzhenitsyn's warning: We didn't love freedom enough and we weren't attentive to the real situation. We exhausted ourselves in the unlimited outburst of 1917 and then hurried to submit. We justly deserved everything that happened later.

Will lawyers now help, along with the media and journalists who have become megaphones of capitalist and political elites, to collapse the ethical-legal value system?
And we, will we remain hedonistically lazy and indifferently watch the events? Whoever is willing to give up freedom for security will have neither freedom nor security.
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Sargon19. 09. 2021 00:01:00
In the US FDA, the vaccine commissioner and her deputy resigned due to pressure regarding the approval of the 3rd vaccine dose. Even those with strong stomachs apparently have trouble digesting the covid plague.
Now Surgeon General Vivek Murthy will probably send two more obedient officials to the FDA.

Yesterday, surprisingly, the FDA approved the 3rd dose only for those over 65 and at-risk. The drama continues, a little breather before the dramatic twist.
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Aljoman19. 09. 2021 18:20:32
@VanSims, don't worry about my batteries, I charge them in nature.
But I amuse myself how you and those like you advocate every single thing that the "experts" in power serve you.
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Sargon19. 09. 2021 23:43:54
The official medical profession has trampled its fundamental Hippocratic principles.

If you don't have the PCT stamp on your forehead, phone or wherever, they won't treat you. Maybe someone will die in front of the health center, like years ago a man died at the doorstep of the Celje hospital who didn't have a health card.

In the USA they are two steps ahead of us. If you're not vaccinated, it can happen that they don't treat you. Since they treat everyone else without problems, even thieves and murderers, they suggest: if you're not vaccinated, you're not human.
With overt or covert coercion, they want to "treat" healthy people against their will, thereby destroying the fundamental right to freedom of conscience and personal determination, violating the right to informed consent and impairing their physical and mental integrity.

With such actions, the medical guild will squander people's trust and with it the foundation from which their healing power derives.
How far healthcare has fallen is spoken by Dr. Suneel Dhand, a doctor of Indian origin in England and the USA, who treats covid patients, actively recommends vaccination to everyone except children, but not under coercion and is exposed to pressure for that: It's impossible to say how much contempt I feel for authorities, for HighTech, for people who belong to the medical or scientific elite who block all other views, who forbid, censor and silence every discussion. These are against science as much as possible. This is no longer the realm of science, medicine and health, we are in the realm of the most extreme and ruthless coercion. Buddha said: three things cannot remain hidden – the sun, the moon and the truth. In the end, the truth will come to light as surely as the sun and the moon.
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pantani120. 09. 2021 07:15:14
Bravo Sargon nasmeh
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zavest20. 09. 2021 09:09:56
Bravo Bećar, Pantani should have written, but let's leave those small details velik nasmeh

But shouldn't we rather focus on domestic cases, not on some obscure USA, just like Bećar, pardon Sargon, said a few days ago? zavijanje z očmi

What irony, just Bećar years ago loudly assured that he has only one username and in the opposite case allows admins to publicly post wrong data. Big mouth and blah blah velik nasmeh
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VanSims20. 09. 2021 09:45:53
@Aljoman: accidentally saw your post because I haven't blocked you yet on the other browser. You amuse yourself when you provoke others, you haven't created anything smart on this forum yet.

From now on BLOCK. Ciao!
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Aljoman20. 09. 2021 11:17:17
@VanSims, nice day to you too.
Otherwise I don't know what got you so angry. Probably because I pointed out the discrimination of unvaccinated fellow citizens? With ruling by decrees? Or that the current government rejects expertise and declares itself "expertise"?
Of course it's easiest to put someone on the block list and the problem is gone. The similarity to the current state in the country is probably coincidence. zmeden
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pantani120. 09. 2021 14:01:47
when they can go to business lunches without restrictions, but privately of course not... because the virus knows how and what. - when you can go from Austria to Slovenia without checks (even though Austrians don't have pretty epidemiological pictures?) to Croatia but... I'd rather not comment on that... - when nuclear physicists make forecasts? HOW CAN YOU ALLOW THIS? - when hypochondriacs with too much money make mathematical models and collect data without serious input data? Is it hard to speak up? - when for monitoring the epidemic only and only pleasing data are taken that have one goal - to scare people? everyone is silent, and that's especially horrific... - when we say we need to vaccinate 12-year-olds - to protect grandmas and grandpas... - although at the Ihan conference they ask - "Would you vaccinate your 12-year-old children" - and the answer comes "NO"... in the media something completely different... and again everyone is SILENT... - when in the whole situation NO ONE asks before vaccination - are you healthy? - when it's completely unimportant if we vaccinate even acutely ill... Is it really so hard to stop throwing sand in your eyes and say - PCT is a plain construct and leads us about as far as the "ostanizdrav" app, masks outdoors and closed municipalities? Hard, right... of course - easier to say I'm antivaxxer and FB doctor and oh so bad... don't deal with that - deal with the content... when you honestly answer the above bullets, the solution will find itself... if you're honest enough... I don't promise the solution will be nice... no honey and milk will flow, but at least realistic and with some goal... if your humility before nature even allows that... There's practically no difference between ultravaxxers and antivaxxers... the difference is only that I can convince an antivaxxer of many things, an ultravaxxer almost nothing... THE SOLUTION IS IN THE MIDDLE WAY - WHEN SCIENCE AND EXPERTISE BESIDES SELF-PROMOTION and POWER AUTHORITY for SERVING POLITICS AND FINANCIAL SOURCES... realizes,,, that if you're silent when you should speak... you're the same as those on the other side! and consequently no one believes you... then happy new lockdown... in about 14 days... and not because of FB doctors, bodybuilders, conspiracy theorists... we have this BECAUSE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SILENT WHEN THEY SHOULD RESIST WITH ALL FORCES I trust science... just these our experts... that's no science... Therefore - get vaccinated - for yourself - if you don't want to, fine too, don't bother those who did! And vice versa! Abolish all measures, put PCT aside... And start behaving responsibly... if we don't succeed... it will still be better than this repression... because the difference is only that now we destroy someone's life on the other side... because we only see COVID... I believe in better times... just not in the existing political and academic system... the sooner we realize this, the faster we'll get out... Enough... look around you rather, fellow humans. They are like you... we're in this together.
but still waiting for the moment when our broader expertise (not just doctors, also other natural scientists, faculties are full of them...) speaks up also when it's necessary to poke into some more interesting hornet's nest and not only when it's necessary to explain some stupid antivax theory. EXPLAIN RATHER THE STUPIDITIES THAT OFFICIAL EXPERTISE DOES: for example: -when we give some 100,000 euros PER DAY for useless tests... instead of new hospitals... if you're silent, maybe you can put the pot to political decisions, right? and when: - when Krek declares this virus new measles... and 90,000 dead, and excess weight and that, and FFP2 mask not suitable for bearded people, but he wears it anyway... NO, right? We'll rather be silent. and also... - when Beovičeva says it's completely normal if husband doesn't infect wife in bed (and the virus is sooooo contagious like measles), families should relocate, tests negative today positive in an hour, ultra contagiousness - and NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING TO HER, EVERYONE IS JUST SILENT! everyone is silent also... - when we talk about PCT, even though we know vaccinated get sick and are contagious... and that's not fake news... those are facts... just most doctors pretend it doesn't exist, and somehow we'll manage... shit happens... that's how it is... deal with it... PCT is NONSENSE, we need to DO DIFFERENTLY!!! everyone silent... - when we talk about tested - some PCT for a week, others only 48 hours... vaccinated never even though (read two bullets above...) - when we talk about screening and non-screening rapid tests - as if such stupidity exists? everyone silent... - when we talk about excess deaths exclusively and only due to COVID... that the whole healthcare was closed, that has no connection... - when we talk about alpha, beta, delta and more contagious than previous, and... as if we've never seen a virus before, especially not RNA... - when they took samples from recovered (Ischgl) and found very super convenient results! Oh yeah, no... we know nothing about COVID, it's new, long covid... mhm... all the worst, good things never... everyone silent... - when we do "lockdown" and close only schools... - when companies open, kids at home... everyone silent... - when we talk about asymptomatic disease... please - then we're all constantly asymptomatically ill... - when we claim we'll solve asymptomatic transmissions with some PCT (but not for business lunches, there you're safe if on the order form only water and sandwich, of course.... we forgot, didn't we)... yeah, almighty human... ...and more... - when we talk about vaccinated with milder disease course - hospitalized... what exactly do they do in hospitals then? We all know, right... but for statistics it's necessary... - when we talk about recovered - COVID is the FIRST disease where vaccine works better than recovery, right... for all other diseases doctor would say - if recovered no problem... ...and also... - when we have very few infected also among vaccinated (yeah sure, how many vaccinated do you test, they already have PCT, don't need to test, how many asymptomatic vaccinated did you miss?... and spread virus to their grandmas and grandpas so they won't have to meet for new year... do you know how WRONG this sounds? - when we talk about vaccinating so we can watch football live... and concert live... so we "live normally"... fuj fey, and paid someone for this ad campaign a multi-year salary of a worker? yuck everyone silent... - when politics says teacher teaches with mask on head in school - just try learning new material, say English with masked lecturer... - when kids have masks in school, but not during breaks, not to mention classes... just let them have them, right... - when we talk about multisystem inflammatory syndrome... only that exists in the whole world... disinfectant on table before snack in school, constantly on skin... ah no... COVID guilty of everything, more than obvious... we got it because we're scientists... research principles, and that... yuck... everyone silent... - when they can go to business lunches without restrictions, privately but of course no
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julius20. 09. 2021 16:28:44
Hello.
Another proof that a lie has short legs.
K(r)ek-ec is like his master (JJ).
He as such did nothing (nula, zero ..) and will have to bear responsibility - guilt for everything NIJZ did not do and should have.

https://www.24ur.com/novice/korona/pirnat.html
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pantani120. 09. 2021 19:29:08
Testing an employee with a rapid antigen test or PCR test represents a medical intervention in the human body, even in the case of self-testing. For such a medical intervention or self-testing there is no medical indication if the person is healthy. All non-voluntary interventions in the body are prohibited. And equally, as in point 1, even if the worker consents to testing due to procedures against him or due to the threat of job loss (as derived from the instruction in the Decree, third paragraph of Article 7, also in the new decree), such an intervention cannot be considered voluntary; therefore it is prohibited.
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Sargon20. 09. 2021 21:30:33
In the English medical journal Lancet, they published an article Consideration in boosting Covid-19 vaccine immune response, signed by two FDA vaccine officials who resigned. They do not recommend the III booster dose.

Meanwhile, in Israel in August they vaccinated 1.9 million people with the III dose. In July they did a study and found that protection after vaccination (RRR – relative risk reduction) dropped: for those vaccinated from January to 16%, February 44%, March 65%, April 74%. In August they therefore carried out III vaccination.
On the Worldometer website (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/) you can see the curve of daily infections. Similar to winter, as if people weren't vaccinated, although they have used 160 vaccine doses / 100 inhabitants so far.

They also found that with natural infection, a smaller number of antibodies is produced (titer 1000-2000), after illness the number slightly increases for 3 months, then starts to decline by 5% each month. After vaccination, a much larger number of antibodies is produced (8000-10000), but they decline faster, 40% each month.
After 3 months from vaccination, out of 1000 people, 250 can get re-infected and spread the infection even more, because they think they are protected.
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VanSims21. 09. 2021 05:56:42
https://www.zurnal24.si/zdravje/ta-cepiva-so-prejeli-cepljeni-ki-potrebujejo-intenzivno-nego-373458

Aha, with Janssen (my vaccine) none on intensive care. cool

But vaccinated, that we endanger the unvaccinated? Get vaccinated and it will be fine! nasmeh
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pantani121. 09. 2021 09:58:37
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VanSims21. 09. 2021 10:36:59
It's not evident that she was vaccinated with Janssen ... zmeden
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pantani121. 09. 2021 12:05:22
No matter, the point is, she was fully vaccinated and got Covid!!!
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