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VanSims15. 10. 2021 09:44:29
@Becar: not every cold is covid. Precisely your side gets upset because (supposedly) all diseases are counted as covid. There is a small probability of course that it was covid which I as vaccinated recovered from in very mild form, but the chance for that is a few percent. There are many other viruses and bacteria circulating around this time.

@Mitja and @Delo: you have no idea what CS is or what our police uses. What they use is a fart against real CS, a very very mild CS solution, which you get in small bottles as defense spray in hunting stores and army shops. Surely they wouldn't sell combat poisons to the wide population.

If they sprayed real CS, half of Ljubljana would croak. And yes, they use it in quite a few (also western countries), although due to safety (not nice if direct to face), increasingly replaced by pepper-based tear gas.

Geneva conventions, as DELO correctly notes, apply only in war. The army, at least in western, democratic (so-called) countries doesn't have it (shouldn't have it at least).

"Before elections remember well who organized this police violence"

Look, violence up or down, would you rather have it like they acted against demonstrators in Germany: no tear gas, no water cannon but whole battalion of police with batons, who beat the pants off the demonstrators well! To hospital from 5000-head crowd 50 were taken, arrested easily many more, around 400.

Funny how some say Europe will be horrified by this. Nothing! They have much more there and our police methods are still mild compared to some in the west.

"E.g. SINGAPORE

2020 - 58.599 cases
29 died, case fatality rate 0.05%"

Yes and similarly Korea and Taiwan. Why?

Ahaaa, because no Janša there who supposedly screwed everything, not because maybe there they are much more socially responsible, left political squabbles and didn't mix into epidemic or at least united in this, especially because there they are willing to forgo some comfort and sacrifice for others (vulnerable), unlike selfish, spoiled and scared Europe where all demand only rights, no one would forgo a piece of their comfort for others.
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pantani115. 10. 2021 09:57:21
Look Van, you blindly follow government and experts and that's your right, just like mine to doubt. Given that they have spat in their own bowl who knows how many times with thoughtless statements, I'm entitled to doubt the government's work and sold experts!!!
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pantani115. 10. 2021 12:00:00
In Italy on streets also so-called fully vaccinated. They thought after one-two shots everything ends. But they nag them for months that they need 3rd shot... People boiled over. Whoever today believes and trusts these crazies in power that they will stick to promises is mentally unhealthy himself.
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Becar15. 10. 2021 13:28:42
I see that some are still raving GET VACCINATED FOR RESPONSIBILITY TO OTHER ENDANGERED - vaccinated ones. zavijanje z očmi

This kind of "pearl" statements also includes for example Beović's opinion that natural immunity and thus acquired antibodies are worse than getting vaccinated. Health corruption, manipulation, brainwashing at its peak. Characteristically weak individuals quite quickly fall into this propaganda machine and start believing such nonsense.
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pantani118. 10. 2021 07:17:12
Just why:


https://www.zurnal24.si/zdravje/zakaj-slovenija-emi-ne-poroca-o-stranskih-ucinkih-374793

Come on nettles, let me see your reply to this!!!
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Becar18. 10. 2021 08:28:05
Regarding Pantani's post about reporting side effects to EMA, I would say this. I'll round the numbers.

In the EU we record about 30,000 OFFICIAL deaths due to vaccination. Population is 450,000,000. If we extrapolate to 2 million Slovenia, that's about 133 deaths due to vaccination.

Once again, 133 is the expected number of OFFICIALLY recognized deaths due to vaccination for Slovenia. What do we actually have? ONE OFFICIAL DEATH VICTIM DUE TO VACCINATION, KATJA'S CASE STILL ANALYZED. That is 2 officially recognized deaths.

Whoever still has a pinch of common sense will quickly realize based on these data:

- the reason why we don't report side effects to EMA is that deaths due to vaccination are concealed here, all because of commissions from vaccination, human life is secondary

- if the estimate of OFFICIALLY confirmed expected deaths in Slovenia due to vaccination is 133, then from experience with past vaccines and drugs, we know that the real number of deaths due to vaccination is most likely 10-20 times higher (doctor Vladimir Pirnat based on past experience even says only 1% of all deaths are official), that is most likely at least around 2000, according to Pirnat 20,000

- and what is the actual number of deaths due to covid? No one knows, but according to Hojs and Logar they wrote all deceased and positive as covid reason, real covid deaths could be only 5% (Hojs), that is 200.

ACCORDING TO THESE ESTIMATES IT IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT WE HAVE 10X MORE DEATHS DUE TO VACCINATION THAN DUE TO COVID.
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SamoK18. 10. 2021 10:05:48
>- and what is the actual number of deaths due to covid?

That's clear! 0.0. You already said long ago (and repeated countless times) that you don't know anyone who died from covid. So no one died! Proven!
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pantani118. 10. 2021 12:34:06
I know one. Former colleague, 61 years old, with severe diabetes, high blood pressure, overweight... Is that enough for you nettle? velik nasmeh
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pantani118. 10. 2021 14:00:22
Whom to believe more? Krof from Logar, who considers himself a top expert, lying and corrupt Beović, maybe Jovan or Poklukar on covid satire, some paid pharmacists or maybe the two-time Nobel laureate, head of the team at Pasteur Institute who identified the HIV retrovirus responsible for AIDS syndrome in 1983, renowned virologist Luc Montagnier, who has a lot to say about this virus, which is a human product and about vaccines, which he says are deadly dangerous for the human body, because besides all possible impurities, they also contain HIV molecules, which like AIDS also attack T cells, and also that their consequences will be catastrophic for most vaccinated, for some immediately, for others within two years. Get yourself a certificate, any one, just with a doctor's stamp so you don't have to get vaccinated at all or anymore, since each dose is more dangerous than the previous. And where are the proven old medicines now? Chloroquine, for example, which destroys all Sars Cov viruses? It simply disappeared. Let our super experts explain this, if they dare.
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Becar18. 10. 2021 14:36:06
According to official data from last year and this year, it is now completely clear. THE MORE WE VACCINATE, THE WORSE THE SITUATION (more infected, more hospitalized, more dead).

So, let's vaccinate. To make it even worse. zavijanje z očmi

Neighbors (young couple around 30) got their 1st Pfizer shot 1 month ago due to PCT pressures, because they commute by train to work. Since they got the 2nd, both are home on sick leave, I hear the woman coughing badly from the apartment, pus pouring out. They don't even come out, so question what is happening.
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pantani118. 10. 2021 15:01:10
velik nasmehvelik nasmehvelik nasmeh
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zavest18. 10. 2021 19:13:29
Whom to believe more? Bećar and Pantani, of course!

What does science know, experts have no idea, everything is fabricated, numbers rigged, bonuses paid, mafia bribed. Only Bećar serves you records accurate to the decimal, although he sometimes messes up and misreads the plus or minus sign in the table, but let's leave those unimportant details velik nasmeh

Today the most credible people are those who get info mostly from fejstglupi sites. Those are the most reliable and by no means biased sources, where would anyone influence Facebook algorithms and what to show whom, absolutely not velik nasmeh
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Becar18. 10. 2021 19:28:09
The most credible are your pearls of Slovenian expertise, who:

- said vaccines are not experimental while the contract stated they are experimental
- said vaccines are safe and effective, while the contract stated safety and efficacy are unknown
- in the statistics of deaths DUE TO included all covid-positive deaths and then emphasized this data everywhere as reference
- vaccinated everyone indiscriminately with Jansen, even though there was no permission
- classified those vaccinated with Jansen on list C immediately after vaccination
- praised Astra Zeneca the most, while it massively caused clots and is now banned in most developed countries
- force vaccination of completely unthreatened youth
- take no responsibility for vaccination consequences
- as the only ones in the world say natural immunity is worse than vaccination
- have forgotten since the 2009 flu epidemic that masks do not protect against viruses
- found that covid-19 is the first respiratory disease transmitted asymptomatically
- can't ask themselves how flu completely disappeared for 2 years

And I could list more. This is our expertise and this is your intellectual reach. Both on the same level.

What, you who like American news, won't report that Colin Powell died DUE TO covid, double vaccinated?

"Facebook" doctors are certainly better to trust than these corrupt perverts.
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pantani118. 10. 2021 19:41:08
And on what basis should I trust the expertise that has no clue about anything!!! jezen
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zavest18. 10. 2021 23:03:53
Hehe, Becar again doing mental gymnastics: a while ago on the death of American anti-vaxx HERO he said "let's not look across the border" and "better focus on domestic cases", but at the same time he announces the death of a fully vaccinated American. That the latter had cancer and weakened immune system, he "forgets" to add.

For your 12 lines of brilliance, attach some source before you burst mežikanje

Anyway, didn't you whine that you'll show up only when our vaccinated condition C expires? mežikanje
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gely19. 10. 2021 04:59:26
statements of the elite zmeden
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Becar19. 10. 2021 06:54:46
Condition C expired for you long ago. You only have it on paper. Just like your sympathy Logar said: For indefinite time UNTIL REVOKED velik nasmehvelik nasmehvelik nasmeh

And of course don't forget now when you have school holidays you must according to Logar in voluntary lockdown velik nasmeh
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pantani119. 10. 2021 11:24:51
Increases in the number of infected were expected. In winter people get sick anyway. The number of hospitalized is not that high yet, as vaccination and especially previous illness are doing their job. But this is mentioned again so that the government diverts attention from incompetence and dirty deals it does. Solution - immediate lustration of ALL current politicians and political parties, technical government of national unity, and start everything anew.
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