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gely8. 11. 2021 06:36:46
nasmeh
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Becar8. 11. 2021 08:00:59
"On drugs, gone mad ... What else won't we hear! Well, at least it's funny. big grin When arguments run out ..."

What's funny about that, except maybe your ignorance? Don't you know they found cocaine in parliament toilets, when they wanted to test MPs, they collectively refused because it's bodily intrusion? And that even your youth wing was caught all snotty with white noses? Forgot that too?

Are you maybe their dealer? Or just extremely ignorant?

Tell me also, how is it when you mix Pfizer and Janssen. You listened to the experts after all?
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pantani18. 11. 2021 08:38:45
THE DUTY OF THE VACCINE IS TO PROTECT the vaccinated person and not people who simply don't want to get vaccinated with untested vaccines. Propaganda that people get vaccinated with vaccines that didn't protect the vaccinated, to protect the unvaccinated, that then everyone together is unprotected.... The DUTY OF THE STATE is TO PROVIDE ALL NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE... hellooo FELLOW CITIZENS, since TITO's time not even ONE SINGLE HOSPITAL has been built!!!!! and then politicians care for our safety and health???...
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pantani18. 11. 2021 10:35:26
Disaster!!! Vaccinated attack unvaccinated because the government told them they were responsible. Responsible vaccinated have that certificate and all proudly walk everywhere, transmit virus and it's all ok nasmeh Unvaccinated who have to test and actually every other day prove they are healthy are worse than plague nasmeh... Because that's what government says, which today says one tomorrow another, which during epidemic stuffed its pockets, which happily warned about every new wave and did NOTHING to increase capacities, staff etc. Because that's what advisory group says, which today says there was mistake in minutes and next day says there wasn't... Listened yesterday to professional director of Murska Sobota hospital, who says on regular covid ward average age 75 years and 38% vaccination, but patients hospitalized for OTHER diseases and treat them for that... HOW CAN THEY THEN CLASSIFY THESE PATIENTS AS COVID PATIENTS if she said they are there for other diseases!!!! And at end go after youngest!!! COUNTLESS times said improper mask wearing even worse than not wearing... Do you think 6 year old child knows how to wear mask properly and by instructions... Come on even adults don't wear by instructions because impossible... Kids will get masks on noses to wear 8 hours, while politicians still without masks happily gather everywhere (seen many times)... Where this leads I ask, where this nonsense leads !!??!! Look at some studies on mask wearing in children done in USA, England, Germany and Poland... No one convinces me inhaling exhaled air from that sweaty damp mask 8h healthy... Don't come with stories doctors wear them, yes during surgery because bacterial infections... No study proves mask protects against covid in any way... INSANE where we arrived INSANE, not because unvaccinated!!! Because realistically last year when no vaccinated 0, number infections smaller now when vaccinated free pass and infections don't stop... Seems more to me they with this vaccination screwed vaccinated dry nasmeh because now 3rd dose and don't know which else, then hear how many hospitalized vaccinated, and not talk about number severe consequences because vaccination which somehow concealed...
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zavest8. 11. 2021 11:29:17
I don't know, here especially unvaccinated and anti-vaxxers have daily outbursts that maybe act therapeutically for them nasmeh
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zavest8. 11. 2021 11:50:31
When such accusations from unvaccinated against vaccinated fall, I don't agree that people are egoists and egocentrics.

Don't you see right up there how unvaccinated care for physical and mental health of vaccinated? Bećar daily asks who has already gone for third shot velik nasmeh

For one I know he will stamp booster doses almost as diligently as repeats of Gonžarjeva peč via ferrata velik nasmeh
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Aljoman8. 11. 2021 11:51:07
The unvaccinated are feared only by the vaccinated.
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VanSims8. 11. 2021 12:29:19
"THE DUTY OF THE VACCINE IS TO PROTECT the vaccinated person and not people who simply don't want to get vaccinated with unverified vaccines."

If we exclude 'unverified' I partially agree (because it somewhat protects others but mainly oneself). And this is what those responsible for the vaccination campaign should mainly repeat. No, 'you'll protect others' but 'you'll protect yourself'. This is one of the reasons for the campaign's failure! People today more or less don't care about others, they are increasingly egoists who only look at themselves. Especially the young! And the campaign should exploit that. Not to publish e.g. a poster with a grandma who says: "I vaccinate to protect others" Nonsense! It would make sense if there was a young person on it, grandma vaccinates mainly for herself.

"Disaster!!! Vaccinated attack unvaccinated,"

Why? Completely justified! Those who don't want to get vaccinated but could are either misled by antivaxxers or egoists or of the type 'the virus can't do anything to me'. They could also be antivaxxers themselves, but that's a smaller possibility, since many antivaxxers get nicely vaccinated without worry. The sense of their 'antivaxxerism' agenda is completely elsewhere than to 'protect innocent people from the raging pharmaceutical industry, corrupt politicians, ...'. Everyone has their own calculation in this.

An example? Stevanović! Whoever believes that he is an antivaxxer, there's no help for him. Corona, antivaxxerism, ... is just a means for his political goals and nothing else. You just keep falling for it...
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zavest8. 11. 2021 14:03:21
The unvaccinated think that only the vaccinated fear them.

The thing is in reality much simpler: most people don't care about you, everyone forges their own corona mežikanje Well, except the zealous nurses who will nevertheless care for you to the best of their abilities if necessary.

Like this athlete, unvaccinated, a positive person in the fullest sense of the word:
https://www.facebook.com/miha.mazzini/posts/10223267523710479
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Becar8. 11. 2021 14:28:04
They are very zealous. Maybe also because of that, when they take a 70-year-old woman to the covid ward who came for hip operation after two years of waiting. And exactly that happened to mom's colleague.

Two years waited for hip operation, comes to hospital, they direct her to testing, positive. Otherwise vaccinated and covid-fearful. Without any sign of a cold and with good well-being they took her to covid ward. There she lay for some time, then they come to say, lady, you can't be operated on because you have covid. What covid, I'm not ill, I feel good, waited two years for operation, can't walk!

Well, and they come back after some time and say there was an administrative error and she can be operated on. They literally purposely placed her on the covid ward to make fat money at her expense.
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zavest8. 11. 2021 14:43:49
Absolutely, it's in everyone's interest that people don't get vaccinated velik nasmeh

Profits from medicines, pills, treatments and payments to health staff are ohoho much higher than profit from cheap vaccines.

Merck's covid medicine will cost around 700 USD for a five-day course. Pfizer's is supposed to have a similar price.
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Becar8. 11. 2021 15:17:43
Who says that the vaccinated won't devour medicines? As soon as they detect you positive, you'll get free medicine too. 700 USD to Pfizer and 700 USD to covid dealers. velik nasmeh
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Becar8. 11. 2021 16:35:26
We eat nothing, no vaccines no medicines, and we are hard as stone rock bone cool
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hočo8. 11. 2021 18:35:44
Zavest, I hope you've never taken antibiotics, because my father-in-law gives that to his cows velik nasmeh
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hočo8. 11. 2021 18:37:21
but I took cow medicine last week because I got Lyme disease...
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pantani18. 11. 2021 19:01:34
Publication in JAMA: already after 10 min of wearing a mask, the CO2 level in exhaled air increases 6x above the allowed limit - which otherwise applies to 6-hour continuous exposure. Younger ones, like children, inhale more CO2 under the mask - long-term limit for adults exceeded even 20x. They accused the study of not being relevant because it didn't measure 6+ hour exposure under mask in children - because they say children take the mask down during class. 2. Children in less than 10% - even when not only SARS-CoV-2 positive, but already develop disease symptoms - mostly similar to cold - do not transmit the infection to others. This was confirmed by meta-analysis of 5 studies published in Pediatrics. At the same time, it is scientifically proven that children need daily contact with peers for normal mental development. They were deprived of that for half of last school year, completely unnecessarily. Will another such action follow - because the puppet government, controlled by one person, has written almost impossible conditions for schools - if they don't meet them, schools close. And then of course THEY (teachers) will be guilty for everything. If ever, now is the time for their Union to say "no". Although school principals - as it seems, have already "sold out" to the government.
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Becar9. 11. 2021 07:07:33
Logar says that rapid testing of vaccinated is not sensible, because if they have no symptoms, the virus concentration is too low and HAT doesn't detect it.

Of course she forgets to say that it applies exactly the same to unvaccinated, but they are not diligent, so healthy ones have to test. In plain terms, we're forcing you to vaccinate.

#trusttheexperts

https://www.24ur.com/novice/korona/testiranje-cepljenih-brez-simptomov-ni-najbolj-smiselno-pomembno-je-spostovanje-ukrepov.html



Meanwhile in exemplary Iceland a sharp rise in the epidemic:

https://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/svijet/u-islandu-drzavi-s-89-cijepljenih-epidemija-eksplodirala-uvode-restrikcije-zovu-ljude-po-3-dozu-15117003?fbclid=IwAR1LWYYQO9qYALxRmqiZLziETrqfoKK923eNQQKM0PSWf-Z9zYM2APeUWXE

In exemplarily vaccinated Denmark after 2 months back to PCT:

https://www.24ur.com/novice/korona/danska-zaradi-porasta-okuzb-znova-uvaja-covidno-potrdilo.html

Nothing to it, get vaccinated nasmeh
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VanSims9. 11. 2021 09:37:47
Yes, @Becar, that's your dream Denmark that you held up as an example and said you'd move there. Well, now disappointment. Yes, even there they are 'corrupt' and 'subservient to covid mafia'. mežikanje

Of course due to high vaccination rates the numbers there are muuuch smaller than ours. Already absolutely, let alone considering there are three times more people. Anyway, they introduce what we should have at such numbers (divided by three of course) already then.

And woe if someone fakes certificates or similar there. There are no red courts to acquit them.
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Becar9. 11. 2021 09:59:21
Van, you "forgot" some important facts when comparing numbers, namely that in Denmark those numbers were achieved without PCT. Wait 1 week after introducing PCT. And of course the intensity of implementation matters. Think a bit about our weekends.

Secondly, let me tell you that here they verifiedly fake numbers by sending people with other serious illnesses to covid departments. Example: you have a stroke, and you're positive at the same time and go straight to covid department. If you don't believe, check.
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pantani19. 11. 2021 10:09:58
Who is selfish? The one who coughs in the security guard while happily showing him the QR code, doesn't attend protests because it doesn't concern him, doesn't need to test...

Or me, who is at home because I have no access anywhere, attends protests for everyone's freedom and tests regularly...

Once again, who is selfish here?
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