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| Becar14. 12. 2021 09:06:55 |
All of us who deal with science, be it healthcare, mechanical engineering, electronics, whatever..... already soon after the start knew that it's murky deals, because the basic principles of science are violated, such as open professional discourse, exchange of different opinions and research etc. When propaganda media started censoring experts with different opinions, and medical organizations even discrediting doctors with different opinions, it all just confirmed.
And that's why they started intensively forcing with bubbles that all differently thinking experts regarding covid are charlatans, all differently thinking FB doctors, flat-earthers, antivaxxers, that those who don't vaccinate are uneducated etc. Because the truth is exactly the opposite, so they knew well which key to press most intensively. The one that is most burdensome for them and that is intellectuals. In this way they manipulated a huge number of people. Even to the extent that people after the 10th dose will still think everything is fine and right 
Interesting now is the profession that has to enforce its right through the police with batons, tear gas, water cannons, all for health. We have come to the phenomenon where they have to force people into these "excellent vaccines" with various means of coercion. This all strongly reminds of inquisition, burning at the stake. Look how inspectors go around accompanied by gestapo. How so? It's for public good after all. How come people don't see that this is good, if the inspector closes the market, right? 
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| zavest14. 12. 2021 09:41:32 |
He's already the strongest, but how good a covid expert and engineer our Bećar would be if he could distinguish positive and negative numbers from a table and differentiate years (2019, 2021, population projections, etc.)
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| Becar14. 12. 2021 09:49:44 |
Will you now explain one example from a scientific point of view. Yesterday there was a post from the market in Klagenfurt, where only those with PC are allowed entry. Explain from the point of view of preventing infections, why e.g. a freshly tested negative visitor has no entry. Thanks in advance for the scientifically based explanation.
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| kekec6214. 12. 2021 09:56:40 |
Those who earn a diploma are experts with a diploma, those who buy a diploma are frauds with a diploma.
Becar, which ones do you belong to???
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| VanSims14. 12. 2021 10:38:06 |
@Sargon: maybe I expressed myself a bit unclearly. The number of antibodies says nothing about the level of protection. The virus is new and they don't yet know what level is needed for protection. Even if you have above 50 (that's the threshold and not 1000, Becar). And precisely because of what you write yourself, since there are other factors (T-cells,...). Presence of antibodies means only that you've been in contact with the virus or vaccinated, which is the same as fulfilling P or C, except if you recovered asymptomatically. But still, for the aforementioned reasons, the number of antibodies cannot be basis for PCT certificate.
@Becar: I can with clear conscience confirm that I am VanSims from the start of participation on hribi.net. I never played any games with other nicks to hide or even more stupidly give extra pluses and such.
About you I don't know, but I suspect a bit that @starejsa is the other self of @gelly, who quieted down a bit. Maybe changed tactics, before behaved like an insolent mule, now pretends to speak as older and supposedly wiser person. 
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| zavest14. 12. 2021 10:57:05 |
Bećar belongs to those who prove that acquired education does not yet mean intelligence
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| zavest14. 12. 2021 11:03:29 |
Look, stalls are a terribly complex thing. If you eat chestnuts, even those must be roasted not boiled, then you're safe. Maybe PCT not needed in that case, because that overpriced chestnut peeler works like some kind of amulet, I read that on Facebook "Moms equip" groups too.
As soon as you grab a boiled one, eh, then omicron jumps from behind the little bottle and you have it in throat even before wine. Yeah, that's how it is.
Scientifically speaking, Austrian heads finally started studying The New Journal of Hribipikanet and concluded they'll fight corona with non-testing.
Trump already said, the more you test, the more infections you have!
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| Becar14. 12. 2021 11:31:12 |
Just listening to Poklukar's calculation on 24ur that there will be 20,000 hospitalized. In this calculation of course (intentionally) forgot to consider that omicron is practically not dangerous strain.
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| pantani114. 12. 2021 11:58:05 |
Van, for starejsa and gely I can personally confirm they are not the same person, because I know both personally
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| Becar14. 12. 2021 12:12:57 |
Van, on laboratory report reference limit for antibodies is 1,000, I have it right here, don't know where you got 50, maybe you have that many after Janssen
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| kekec6214. 12. 2021 13:55:55 |
Becar knows Omicron is not dangerous even before experts. From which great leader do you get information???
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| Becar14. 12. 2021 13:56:56 |
Look at the picture of my SLOVENIAN test, if you don't believe my word.
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| Becar14. 12. 2021 14:20:17 |
"Becar knows that Omicron is not dangerous even before the experts. From which great leader do you get information???"
The secret is in a pinch of common sense that some of us still have. Hint: millions infected around the world and 1 died
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| Becar14. 12. 2021 14:26:11 |
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| VanSims14. 12. 2021 14:36:25 |
Just talked to a colleague who recovered and tests every half year. He went to test at Golnik, there the limit is different again - 147, he has approx. 10X more antibodies. That colleague who said 50 went to test at Adria Lab in Vič.
As that colleague explained to me it's the same test (IgG), just can be done in different ways.
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| VanSims14. 12. 2021 15:06:02 |
@Becar: Not quite so innocent, there are quite a few in hospitals, apparently still fewer than with delta.
Look experts are just cautious and can't declare victory at once. Would be nice if you attached a link too and of course that your words prove golden. Don't think pro-vaxxers like me are barely waiting for a horrible mutation to come. Also for us (at least me personally) it would be nice if this was over once. Perhaps even more so because we are more aware of dangers and consequences the virus brought and can still.
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| kekec6214. 12. 2021 18:11:44 |
Becar won't have anything to do after the epidemic, maybe already looking for new areas.
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| zavest14. 12. 2021 19:29:10 |
"The Dunning-Kruger effect represents a cognitive bias where unskilled individuals do not realize their own level of knowledge about a certain field, leading to poor decisions and erroneous conclusions. Individuals' inherent incompetence prevents them from recognizing their mistakes. Highly skilled individuals underestimate their competence, as they wrongly assume that tasks easy for them are also easy for others."
https://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Krugerjev_u%C4%8Dinek
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| pantani114. 12. 2021 20:04:45 |
Vaccination of chronic patients is also questionable. Say, fat older one with diabetes, cholesterol and heart attack behind, should get vaccinated, but we know after vaccination there is possibility of clot formation. The man is already so poor, now let him add one more chance himself to finish him. On the other side young healthy and fit lad who has per mille % chance the virus lays him down, should risk with vaccine and has much higher % chance for adverse effects. Experts only about benefits greater than potential harm. With such explanations nowhere. Could study more detailed and answer how vaccine helps someone already without it with one foot in grave every day?
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