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bongo2. 01. 2021 13:24:46
Hribolaznik, you've mixed something up.
Janša (this time) wasn't even elected in free elections, but voted in, because Pahor, to the surprise of many, didn't call by-elections but left the government formation with Janša as mandatary to the always treacherous, greedy and in this context fucking Slovenian politicians. They are all the same, change color faster than a chameleon, the only color close to them is the one in which money is colored. Everything else is just a game for the predominantly stupid Slovenian plebs.

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Hribolaznik2. 01. 2021 13:34:00
Bongo, you've mixed something up: Janša got the most votes in the elections, but because the other right-oriented parties were disastrous, the center-left coalition got the first government. Or in plain terms: the one with Erjavec. The point of my debate is that it doesn't matter at all which political option is in power, the covid situation would be the same anyway. Luka Mesec would (like Janša with migrants) only fart softly, covid would remain... Quoting the left, what they would do differently: they would introduce total lockdown on time (that is already in September, end of August) and let schoolchildren back to school earlier... Of course they would ventilate classrooms. And then the whole Slovenia (like currently in Spain) would argue about whose child would sit near the open window in December...
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bongo2. 01. 2021 13:48:26
I wrote to you about the current situation, how should I know what you meant, when that result is completely irrelevant today - especially since Janša didn't form the government then and it doesn't matter who went or didn't go to the elections and what they did there.
Because as is clear, votes in elections don't help you if you're not the mandatary or don't have a majority in parliament afterwards. Whoever went to vote then was classically Slovenian: for Janša (and that percentage is roughly always the same) or against him and gave the vote as far away from him as possible. In the end (in elections) the latter succeeded, right now Janša grins (which unfortunately is more important).
Covid is just a regular farce, where the point is that a handful profit at the expense of others and the cards in the economy get reshuffled (because with fire and sword it doesn't work so easily anymore)
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s7nf2. 01. 2021 14:10:10
Exactly that I'm waiting for, for the cards to shuffle in the economy. Opportunity for us young ones to make a breakthrough. Good for covid!
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Hribolaznik2. 01. 2021 14:17:06
Bongo, these are the current circumstances. Janša has and had the most MPs, and he'll still have them until the next elections. The state doesn't profit from covid, get that into your heads once and for all... If you don't know how the state collects money, please read the basics of macroeconomics. Important is a healthy working people who regularly pay taxes... People who think covid=flu and continue merrily socializing, in the end get sick and are no good neither for their family nor for the state.

Above all you're attacking Primož completely unnecessarily. Outdoor recreation is desirable if you do it individually or with family members or members from the same household. Because of that the police won't chase you, Hojs won't hunt you and Janša won't mark you... We all know what's dangerous: larger gatherings in closed spaces. The measures are exactly for that reason (as Primož has said many times) because if you just tell people how to behave, people won't follow it. If you let people into the mountains, they'll crowd in the huts... If you let people on the beach... they'll crowd in bars and clubs... That's exactly why there are measures and bans. So stop whining and insulting Primož who recreates outdoors with his family. You can all do that. No one will punish you.
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bongo2. 01. 2021 14:42:47
Hribolaznik, the state, especially the Slovenian one, is a pure OPM system. OPM = other people's money. In the state and its bodies, especially Slovenian ones, there are almost no honest, morally impeccable people. Because the cards are shuffled faster than in Black Peter, everyone at the trough has only one mission: how to fill their pocket as much as possible. With the OPM system of course.
Janša, Hojs, Kacin, Beovičko, whoever (also Šarec, Mesec and similar dicks) cares about you, your parents, your grandparents, flu, covid, healthcare workers, fitness etc. They are only interested in their own benefit.
And what you're following today in your so-called country is again and again just water on the mill of those who hold the scissors and the cloth.
In reality, it's all like banning sex because of AIDS. And then one day allow condoms, next day only missionary with wife, third day command abstinence, fourth day holy Janša would come dip it a bit at your home, saying it has healing etc etc.
And that's why I piss on all this, especially in this country, where even those from 1960, 1970, 1980 and later know how to argue who buried whom in the middle of Rog, who is white, red, curly,... meanwhile indirectly stealing from you and me and occasionally throwing dog bombs here and there, so folk look elsewhere, spies on neighbors and bitches. And that's why many smart people don't stick to anything (anymore). Because they have a full dick of this head-fucking. This is something that's been dragging in this country for decades, only the decorative paper around various shit is occasionally a different color.
All this comes from a very simple thing: greed. There is no such thing in nature and nature is always right. It will be so this time too.
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VanSims2. 01. 2021 15:33:57
One of the things I agree with in this debate is that we have elections. The one who wins the elections is the one who manages to get to power, i.e. those who form a coalition, the others can console themselves with the opposition.

Šarec didn't succeed, at least not for long (and even that was minority which happens in mature democracies too) and Janša took the cream. In a mature democratic country, nothing special if the government changes in the middle of the term. And we don't need early elections every time someone messes it up. It's enough if people express their will every 4 years.
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And yes, go to elections and vote. There you have the right and opportunity to change something if you don't like it. Otherwise don't bitch.

What's not in nature? Greed? Mother nature herself is of course not greedy and is smart enough. But as for her subjects (living beings) just go ask our local goatherd (now former precisely because of people's greed). I was surprised myself. And no, it's not because goats are domesticated and caught bad habits from humans but they inherited all that from their ancestors, wild goats.
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guki2. 01. 2021 15:39:37
Hribolaznik don't talk nonsense. No reason to go to another statistical region to recreate but he can recreate as much as he wants in his own. If a family from Kranj has to pay a fine for a bun and a food deliverer from Ljubljana because of stupid decrees, the same should apply to Primož especially as first-class.

The state doesn't profit from covid.- People who lead the state profit at the expense of covid (masks and such). Decades ago they were reselling weapons
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pikica12. 01. 2021 16:44:36
@s7nf can you explain to me what you mean by "good for covid!"
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tinky2. 01. 2021 17:00:11
All know-it-allseek
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redbull2. 01. 2021 17:42:20
velik nasmeh
Cool bro, good debate
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dprapr2. 01. 2021 17:51:35
Ha, ha, the best is the one from Bongo, that many smart people don't stick to anything anymore.
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Becar2. 01. 2021 17:56:04
Drago, he wrote it right, look at Primož, the smartest, but doesn't follow measures. For next elections I'll ask him who to vote for, what do I, a dummy, know who to vote for. Of course private message, he blocked me here and supposedly doesn't see me. Except from some other profile, surely he's interested in full debate since he's so engaged
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Becar2. 01. 2021 18:03:24
More or less that's how it looked this year in 2 Slovenian hospitals when I was at a checkup velik nasmeh

Empty hospital
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Becar2. 01. 2021 18:14:57
Here, if someone doesn't know yet, Pfizer was fined 2.3 billion dollars in 2009 for fraud:

Pfizer to Pay $2.3 Billion for Fraudulent Marketing
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exwannabe2. 01. 2021 18:47:31
What if you looked at yourself for a change. With kids and on top a baby and relatively young "wife" you roll around this forum all day writing free essays. Don't you really have something more useful to do at home? If you devoted half as much to your family as to us here.... Well, it's important that your family, especially the "wife" supports your virtual nonsense. Maybe she has peace from you that way. velik nasmeh
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s7nf2. 01. 2021 18:51:21
@exwannabe, you really have a nice level of debate, you involve the wife, then the baby. Mom didn't teach you that.
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exwannabe2. 01. 2021 18:54:26
Ha, ha. You're the one for jokes. Haven't you seen any of his posts on this forum yet? Then ask yourself who involves whom where. Please.mežikanje
P.S. But you could involve mom, right? jezik
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zavest2. 01. 2021 18:54:30
@exwannabe - is this what you think? https://xkcd.com/386/
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exwannabe2. 01. 2021 18:55:52
@zavest velik nasmehvelik nasmehvelik nasmeh
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