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| VanSims28. 07. 2011 11:08:35 |
@lynx
Well, the cow is still fine. It can move aside too. The donkey is worse. That one won't move. Experiences from the Pyrenees...
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| VanSims24. 08. 2011 22:47:30 |
No, on this year's mostly mountain holiday I also had some troubles with animals. But nothing serious. More in the picture comments.
Besides that, goats on the road in Stelvio. They were sitting on the road watching my car, and their balls were hanging down 
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| ruševec24. 08. 2011 23:42:37 |
Domestic animals in the mountains, on pastures are sometimes a nice addition to the tour, other times they can get on your nerves. From my own experiences I can say that sheep and goats are really not problematic, even though once a whole flock of sheep followed me from Brana towards Kamniško sedlo. The most unpleasant from sheep are summits full of droppings. Different with cattle and horses. With a horse unfortunately I can't distinguish when it's curious, when aggressive. That's why I avoid them in a big arc if possible. Well below Kamniški vrh last year there was no way to retreat. And they nicely went after us. In the end we figured they were bored and let themselves be petted. On Krvavec once it was a completely different situation by my own fault, I admit. The dog was provoking the foal a bit, the mare galloped directly at us. As quickly as possible I moved away and rather walked part of the path through the scree. With cows I basically have no problems. This year on Kofce they circled us at the cross though. Unpleasant feeling when you have 10 such large animals around you at 10m. But they soon moved away. Different on planina Dolga njiva. There cows and bull ran towards me down the slope. I avoided as much as I could. Fortunately no attack happened. The hottest situation happened on the pasture by the lake. Big black bull. Since I usually have my dog with me and this one time for a change I didn't feel like detouring a lot, it could have cost me. Then for the first time I saw how the bull paws the ground with front leg and lowers head to the ground, and snorts. Hope it's the last time I see that. In short if possible, avoid them a bit on open areas if you notice something else instead of udder. 
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| pikica126. 08. 2011 11:10:47 |
VanSims, you did well to climb over the barbed fence, since on the fourth picture in the foreground there's a bull not a cow. Cow has udder between legs, bull has scrotum, so next time you'll distinguish easier when to run Bull also has very developed front end-neck, by that too you can distinguish bull from cow. Not everything is in laws that people write and you like to post so much. Nature's law is good to know a bit too. You photographed two puppies too, that's nice too, obviously you're not afraid of them so much anymore.
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| VanSims26. 08. 2011 14:10:03 |
@ruševec: I wouldn't start the polemic 'dog in mountains or not' again, because I already said there's no problem with a dog in the mountains, of course respecting some rules.
But still I might add that perhaps your furry one gets you into such situations. Even if nicely leashed and maybe just barking or not even that.
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| VanSims26. 08. 2011 14:20:17 |
@pikica1: Thanks for the advice. Well, I avoid cows anyway, although it has happened to me that one moved away from the path.
Given how irresponsible these alpine farmers are, leaving bulls just like that on paths, we'll really have to carry bear spray with us. It should work on bulls too. Just in case, for the feeling of safety, packed in the backpack, I'll continue—if possible—to avoid all these bigger beasts and God forbid I never have to use it, neither on a bear, nor a bull, nor any other larger animal. And not because then I have to buy a new one (40 EUR). 
As for dogs. Look, I like animals, that's why I take so many pictures of them on my trips, hikes,...
It's not at all about whether you're afraid of the dog or not. The dog attacks you and surely you won't stand with arms crossed? And even if it just barks, growls, rushes at you or if some nasty breed like a moloss or bull and similar just stands in front of you. I just don't intend to be a puppet satisfying the owner's passions while he has fun at it.
Don't worry, I know a bit of dog psychology too. Some dogs look friendly already. And I praise some and pet a bit, but the dog must sniff you first and I ask the owner for permission, already for safety reasons and also out of politeness. And the owner, when he sees that I like his dog, experiences an orgasm.
But if the owner acts arrogant and violent with his dog then... you know: violence breeds violence.
There are other dangers in the hills too. Why do we wear helmets if the danger of something falling on our head is so small? Most have never had anything happen. Why do we use via ferrata sets... All in the hope that that 'God forbid' never happens. Well, and I carry pepper spray for dogs. That would help also in an attack by some smaller animal (fox, wolf).
Well, and a picture of a gun dog from southern Italy. Curled up like that he was lying on the street and sleeping. But those dogs down there are much friendlier, just sometimes a bit annoying for food because they're hungry. 
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| odri27. 08. 2011 15:04:18 |
Cows from Lepenatka can be a bit annoying too. I've experienced that already for the second time. I was on Wednesday on the way to Lepenatka from Kala and when I'm puffing towards the top, a whole herd of cows starts towards me, and some bull was among them too. Oh horror. And I, not being lazy, flee down the hill towards Kala as fast as my legs carried me. Good that there was no hidden camera around. A couple of years ago, when I also went to Lepenatka, I stopped in the middle of the path again because cows came towards me again. And I call to the shepherd's hut a bit below the top where my husband faithfully waited for me and there they told him that among the cows there was no bull but only an ox, which isn't dangerous. Well, dangerous up or down, it's bigger than me and I fear such things. And then I found a longer path to the top to avoid cows and oxen in a big circle.
But last year at the top of Vršič I had an experience that a sheep climbed into my car. On the parking lot sheep crowded and I cheerfully offer them my snack and then went to the car to take the camera from it and photo them, sheep behind me and I open the rear door, one sheep climbs into the car and starts gnawing my snack that I had on the rear seat. It was quite a problem to chase that sheep out, I had to help myself with hiking poles.
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| VanSims30. 08. 2011 11:48:07 |
Well, a bull can of course be recognized also by attempting to establish a special relationship (yeah we know what kind ) to his grazing female companions.
I saw one such attempt when a month ago, both from Planika returning to Krma, the other this Sunday on return from Ankovec, on the path between middle and lower cable car station.
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