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| SamoK18. 11. 2015 15:26:04 |
Dejan, look, you're quite the guy when it comes to solo hiking, running, speed, endurance etc. But you have no idea about moving in a rope team, so I don't know why you're chiming in. In my whole life I've never experienced the leader in the team badmouthing and angrily criticizing the other in the team for being too slow - and all the while constantly looking at his beautiful watch.
That's not how you move in a rope team, period. Not to mention that such climbing isn't pleasant for anyone, neither for the first who's constantly angry and nervous, nor for the second whom the first is constantly yelling at and belittling.
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| lino18. 11. 2015 21:03:58 |
Watchhh, beautiful video. Especially for us who'll probably never make it to GG. Only bothers me the occasional small safety distance between rope teams. Congrats!
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| 1mitjas18. 11. 2015 22:02:31 |
You're talking about a guided rope team in a setup where the one acting as guide can't even clip a karabiner. Such movement is really deadly dangerous and I don't recommend it to anyone, even though guides on Studelgrat use it in most routes. A guided rope team with a proper guide leading and a self-taught team of two is completely different.
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| ljubitelj gora18. 11. 2015 23:02:28 |
Mitjas, that one behind was presumably the guide.
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| Žiga2219. 11. 2015 10:47:16 |
Already said 100x.. do stupid stuff in the mountains whatever you want, but don't post them so some clown finds it and copies you.
If you're belaying, do it properly, with anchors and belay devices. If you're practicing short-roping, don't film and post it, read above why. Short-roping is basically reserved for experienced teams, the video shows this team isn't. Besides ignoring that the rope must be slightly taut all the time in this style (second doesn't advance if leader stands still) and at least one piece clipped between climbers, there's total idiocy and the leader running away above the second. Not to mention pushing into the team ahead and -best of all- "tying" to the fixed rope (10:11)  and dodging the other team's rope  . If someone (not tied to my rope) touches my rope without permission, I'll break his arms. 
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| Hammond19. 11. 2015 11:24:24 |
If with such "leading" you don't send yourself in a bag down to the valley, then your "climbing partner" has the right (and chance). Failed tour from planning to execution. Shame on you, urarr.
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| JusAvgustin19. 11. 2015 12:37:42 |
Mitja, do you even have any reply to this "leading" video?
This shows exactly what shouldn't be done.
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| Janez Seliškar19. 11. 2015 13:03:17 |
To watch the video you need good nerves and a healthy heart.
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| mukica19. 11. 2015 15:24:30 |
Congratulations for the summit, you had a lot of luck that everything ended well...
I like watching various clips and here I was sadly negatively surprised by the impatient clock-checking and rushing after the previous team. The poor girl couldn't even breathe while fleeing from you. Can't imagine how I'd react if someone followed me like that clipping, helping... believe me it's not pleasant.
In future it'd be good if you ask before who to put on the rope, not transmit nervousness during the tour...
Good luck on further paths, I'll gladly watch more clips, videos and hope for long... even when I can't hike mountains anymore.. because good alpinist is old alpinist
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| lino19. 11. 2015 16:12:13 |
If I sum up all comments and ratings, I'd say Urarrr is a bad alpinist and guide. But I doubt it. If he climbs and leads so confidently and easily he must be an excellent alpinist. Maybe he just had a bad day; who doesn't.
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| SamoK19. 11. 2015 16:24:20 |
Lino, your comments (not just this one) are so off that it's better if you go to a forum for gardeners or knitters.
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| lino19. 11. 2015 16:28:42 |
SamoK, sorry if I ruined your day or personally hurt your vanity.
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| Daaam19. 11. 2015 16:38:44 |
I am really a good driver. Those who drive by the rules get on my nerves when I have a bad day and I race through town like a crazy skier..k... and no one dares to drive through red lights #linoHasABadDay
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| 1mitjas19. 11. 2015 19:29:00 |
Just a reply for Juš - I didn't watch the whole video, but what I saw from a guiding point of view is a catastrophe and he can take the shortcut under the mountain. Around 7 minutes I noticed also wrongly clipped gear, that's why I chimed in.
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| Busterman19. 11. 2015 19:34:45 |
classic hribi.net, someone makes the effort, takes the camera, posts an interesting tour, here only criticism awaits him
Unfortunately, I myself can't watch the video anymore, but I'm sure that, as usual, it's not such a horror as the comments describe, unless the hero actively pushes people from the ridge into the abyss
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| Pikipoki19. 11. 2015 20:01:59 |
Yes, I agree. Just smart-alecking. Instead of constructively commenting, you'll now be salting wisdom all week
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| mukica19. 11. 2015 20:36:14 |
The recording was published publicly and public praise or criticism is expected, unfortunately more of the latter based on what was seen 
If Matej had described the tour more extensively, the conditions, the weather conditions, and even the agreement with the previous rope team as he did with me via ZS, there would probably be much less criticism.
Good luck, Martina
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| urarrr19. 11. 2015 20:39:47 |
Hello!!!
yeah that's classic hribi.net yeah...
I post a video up there so folks can see a bit what the path over Studelgrad looks like and the salting of wisdom starts....
but I'm not surprised by the crowd, I'm surprised by a few persons who know how it is up there, who've been through something, but here they write fairy tales about sin and repentance... themselves walk just the same štajerca... I won't name them... right, even though I read that štajerc is reserved only for the chosen ones....
Of course some of today's commentators lead guided tours for 500€ or 550€ according to the book to the top of GG, since they're trained for that. And of course they find a hair in the egg, it would be strange if they didn't.
a few words on the ascent so some don't find hot water...
Have you perhaps thought that my buddy and I agreed not to belay constantly, since it's much faster that way... that's the decision of us two, since we trust each other... and not yours. Of course proper protection is needed if you don't feel like walking štajerca.
Have you thought that I'm in the rear of the first rope team for a reason you don't need to know..., which was also part of the agreement
Have you thought that my buddy also knows how to solo GG, he just had a bad day fitness-wise...
Do you have any idea what it's like to be almost 10 hours at -20C and how that looks and that we wanted to get through to shelter as soon as possible.... everyone, (some have frostbite from that day )
on the couch at +22 it's easy to be smart...
At my mileage I'll judge myself whether I can actively belay if I'm with someone on the rope or can walk štajerca.... without permission of some pearls of this forum
the video will be online soon or it already is, I'll just cut the sound, because I'm aware that I was urging my buddy to hurry, and that's because we were all freezing like dogs..., him too...
and in the future we'll go with my buddy in a similar way if the path isn't technically more demanding. If it is, we'll do it as needed.
That's the agreement.... of us two
Thanks for understanding
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| lino19. 11. 2015 20:50:09 |
Urarrr, good that you quieted some hot water inventors a bit. Bravo!
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