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| eftomi23. 10. 2013 18:47:09 |
My contribution too  Two years ago I tackled the stress and excess weight problem. Weight is a combination of proper diet and regular exercise, at least 3x weekly you have to sweat for 40 minutes.
Diet:
- at least 5 meals/day, best at the same times (e.g. 7h,10h,13h,16h,19h depending on schedule).
- abundant varied breakfast with all components (carbs, proteins, fibers)
- snack fruit (one piece, e.g. apple)
- lunch normal varied
- afternoon snack proteins (yogurt, kefir etc)
- dinner proteins and veg
General diet rules:
- no carbs after lunch
- avoid high GI food (white bread, white flour pasta, white flour sweets, potatoes)
- no eating 2h before bed
Such "diet" is not hard, no hunger, but maintains weight only, not lose. For losing need exercise.
For hills per experience need aerobic training for body to hold "oxygen balance" long term. Layman: fitness. Plus muscle strength (mass), usually weights, or exercises (leg squats etc) till muscles burn. After no carbs but steaks! Muscles heal with protein, gain mass/strength. Recommend gym smart; not all for all, what you want (leg power, lose belly, maintain fitness...).
Training e.g. 40min sweat (fast walk Šmarna Gora for Ljubljana folks, though fast you top in 30min or less ).
Hiking itself not for "weight loss" cuz need energy/carbs supplied. Short: no hunger then, but better steak after valley return than schnitzel and fries
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| IgorZlodej23. 10. 2013 18:57:41 |
 , can only laugh at all these theories
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| eftomi23. 10. 2013 19:09:21 |
IgorZlodej, these aren't theories. Read a book.
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| korl23. 10. 2013 19:14:55 |
book, what's that? 
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| limona23. 10. 2013 19:25:50 |
Most of us are bothered by extra weight ("bothers"; the word has a broad meaning here) and we want to get rid of it because it lowers the quality of life. I support everyone in their efforts, and without knowledge ("theories") it won't work, just like without movement - whether hiking in the hills or something else. But we don't need mockery - many have experienced it since childhood.
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| ljubitelj gora23. 10. 2013 19:40:42 |
@dprapr: less than 10 months, after that I'm with the same kg here and there.
And yeah, all the time I ate bread too. You can walk 10 km on flat ground every day, eat like before "weight loss" and the kilos won't go down unless you overcome 1000 m elevation every day, but after the diet ends and with little movement you're back but during "diet" I was almost always full
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| jaz23. 10. 2013 21:08:02 |
No problems with kg. Regards!
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| utrujen23. 10. 2013 21:12:43 |
Jaz, don't provoke! Just looked at the pic, here, kilo up.
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| jedriličar23. 10. 2013 21:17:38 |
In my opinion, that's at least 2 kilos
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| ljubitelj gora23. 10. 2013 21:26:36 |
Love yourselves as you are, kg up and down mainly, as long as there aren't some 50 kg too many.
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| viharnik23. 10. 2013 21:33:48 |
I often grill because I like the fire element. It also energetically cleanses us when we look into it. Of course with ćevapčiči, cutlets, potatoes, zucchini, in autumn also peppers, corn and some apple at the end in embers, the kilos go up quickly. Such food made on fire also has a lot of yang active energy, not to mention the taste due to charcoal . Last time I roasted delicious chestnuts right on gas in an old alu. container .
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| jedriličar23. 10. 2013 21:43:20 |
What do you say to this, viharnik? Food from grill ...
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| miri23. 10. 2013 21:48:07 |
And up left?
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| Macesna23. 10. 2013 22:01:48 |
You've made me totally hungry, gonna eat bread, butter and egg ...
Problem is, after sports you're so insanely huuuungry, and then all goes to ass what you lost before.
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| miri24. 10. 2013 07:24:24 |
Someone explain to me what this "positive thinking" is, because it helps with everything.
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| alpin24. 10. 2013 07:31:27 |
In these times it's probably harder to think positively than to lose 30kg.!!
Positive thinking for me is to forget (disconnect) from daily problems, worries, job,.. and think about something nice, about what inspires me and drives me forward to new victories.
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| jedriličar24. 10. 2013 07:51:18 |
Just for the storm chaser: eat under the bake....
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