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dprapr11. 03. 2024 20:35:40
Compared to today's "restrictions", there were many back then.
Since not everyone had the luck to drive cars, we started tours in the valleys. In Mojstrana, Bohinj, Kranjska Gora, Rateče, Črna, Mežica, at Plesnik in Logarska, Luče,... That's probably the only restriction now (closed road to Tamar), plus sometimes salty parking prices. Back then we didn't see it as a restriction.
We were "restricted" by public transport from home and back. Not to mention border mountains and border crossings. At every crossing, inventory of gear in the backpack, from camera to rope. Gear you could only buy in Austria or Italy, or even farther. Of course you had to hide it from customs. Or you crossed the border with old shoes, old backpack, returned with new ones.
I remember once in Maribor paying a whole salary for two puffy hoodless jackets (Toper).
The next one I had sewn by a seamstress. Not cheap, but with more down and made to order.
At border crossings you could have a limited amount of money. Usually too little for the tour. At the Swiss border you had to have more to be let through at all!
We mostly slept outside. Ah, that was an advantage over today. Which got complicated in the mid-90s when police threw us out of bed in the middle of the night in Tamar and we had to pack up camp. Even though during the day (it was Sunday) some from the most beautiful city were roasting on spits there.
Bivouacs were mostly locked and for locals. In the Logar end I climbed most routes, but only slept in bivouac twice.
On border peaks, border guards usually complicated things, especially in winter.
In winter, huts in high mountains were closed. I didn't miss them otherwise, but there's a difference from today's weekend hut openings.
For an expedition to another continent you had to earn it with high-altitude work. You couldn't just buy a plane ticket and go anywhere like now.
Korl, with the house you missed. I wasn't one of those who squandered the former state. I even paid self-contribution.
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mirank11. 03. 2024 20:37:00
Also in Cyrillic... and smoking carszavijanje z očmi
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darinka411. 03. 2024 21:13:00
I remember when we were in Yugoslavia, I wondered if I could ever stand on Mrzla gora. Well then the dream came true. nasmeh I won't forget when we went from Sveti Duh to Olševa. Back then border guards were watching the border. But surprisingly they didn't stop us three at all. We were lucky.
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Kafetarca11. 03. 2024 21:27:21
To me, what dprapr and darinka write, reads like some horror story. I can't imagine sweating in the mountains because of border guards, instead of because of hiking...
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jax12. 03. 2024 09:50:47
@turbo:
Not true, it said "Leaning out is safe". mežikanje
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oldtimer 5512. 03. 2024 11:02:04
So you don't romanticize too much, I found my third mountaineering ID and let the youth read what restrictions there were in "Yugo". The book by Iztok Tomazin Na meji tells a lot too.nasmeh Good luck and no hard feelingsvelik nasmeh
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dprapr12. 03. 2024 11:25:35
They didn't stick to all the points listed! It depended on the main smartass at the checkpoint. They rejected me with the group under Olševa too and off back to the valley. Even in 1989!
In the mountaineering ID from 1968 there were only short instructions for first aid in the mountains.
10 years later they added those permits or movement restrictions in the border zone.

Now we can't even imagine what a blessing it is to be able to move anywhere and anytime. And some are still not satisfied.
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Trobec12. 03. 2024 14:48:01
No need to go to 1968 to look for impossible restrictions...3 years ago is enough...
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lino12. 03. 2024 14:57:17

These instructions read like some horror story on the border eastern - western Europe bloc. nasmeh
They probably feared too many migrants coming from west to east. velik nasmeh
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1muha12. 03. 2024 17:20:34
Krma, Kot? Where have we ended up? We're not in SFRJ anymore.
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turbo12. 03. 2024 18:39:16
S tenar
F rdamane police
R ušica
J alovec

R ecimo velik nasmeh
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Jusk12. 03. 2024 19:28:49
Some still live in SFRJvelik nasmeh but yeah, stop pounding this threadzavijanje z očmi the Vrata will be relevant soonvelik nasmeh
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dprapr12. 03. 2024 19:46:57
Some think they lived in SFRJ during Covid and with visits to Blato, Bohinj.nasmeh
I hope they open the valleys for you soon so you stop this whining. And save for parking now that the weather is bad.nasmeh
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skalar5012. 03. 2024 19:48:47
... with sarcasm or without and with historical memory (probably quite a few of us here around 70 or over) or without ... let's leave daily politics (even backwards) out of forums that talk about quality of free time ...

in the mountains it's nice ... without lefts, without rights and those in between ...
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mosovnik13. 03. 2024 13:03:42
@skalar,(I'm the one well over 70), but I'd remind those impudent ones who disrespectfully "do" some "swallows" on NOB memorials (peak before Ribniška koča), which mark our, Slovenian path to a better future, which current young generations take for granted.
And let the "swallow" on top of the monument not comment at all. It's too shameful and simply incomprehensible.
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exwannabe13. 03. 2024 19:00:06
A bit out of context but it raises my blood pressure when it's talked about and glorified so lightly and I really wonder what that "Slovenian path to a better future" is supposed to mean.

Maybe that they nationalized (confiscated in plain terms) our house (inn with rooms), business buildings and farmland and even the house in Lj where they housed "our" people. Perhaps it means that only after 50 years we got our property back (in dismal condition), with unknown people still in the house with lifetime rental contracts made by the then authorities, additionally protected by the Housing Act. Catastrophe.

And all that because dad and mom had an enterprising spirit and something got built together and not just waiting for something to fall from the sky.

Whoever experienced this on their own skin, when just mail arrives with a decision that your property is no longer yours, would speak quite differently today.jezen

And to avoid misunderstanding, apolitical, because unfortunately all politicians care most about their own pocket, whether left or right.zavijanje z očmi
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lijaneja13. 03. 2024 20:38:28
@exw...-I agree with this.
But the topic title is completely innocent; Krma, Kot
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Jusk13. 03. 2024 21:51:26
Nobody thinks of opening a thread in 'General discussions' forum titled 'Bullshitting about parking lots,SFRJ, "swallows", nationalization etc rambling, then debate there loudmouthsvelik nasmeh who cares about SFRJ, seriouslyzmeden
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turbo14. 03. 2024 18:18:04
Hey, loudmouth, then you open it, moderators will casually move the crap to the right place velik nasmeh
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Jusk14. 03. 2024 19:01:52
I don't need to open it, it'll be useful for youjezikmežikanje
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