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Matkov kot - Matkov škaf

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jurs30. 04. 2008 18:31:52
I'm interested in current conditions on this trail, and how's the cirque?
Best regardsnasmeh
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geppo30. 04. 2008 18:48:43
I looked into Matkov kot from different heights - haven't been in it. By estimate - valley nicely snow-free up to the last ascent, which is usually full of snow. Sending you a photo - really from afar, but conditions as usual for this time (if you're regular visitor you'll know)
Best
maybe someone was there recently - otherwise it seems to me there are fewer and fewer visitors in this beautiful valley (which is sometimes good)
The avalanche track under Latvica is clearly visible - the rest is bare1
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jurs30. 04. 2008 19:08:54
Last year I was there on this day, conditions were completely different, the shaft was fully formed, my layman's estimate 15 m circumference and 7-8 m depth! Now I doubt a bit looking at your picture that the shaft is already formed! But I'll go check anyway, because in this valley it's always nice, no crowds! Thanks for the pic!
Best regards nasmeh
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zamet7. 05. 2008 19:35:14
Some pics from today from Matkov shaft which has already started forming.
Best.
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geppo7. 05. 2008 20:02:52
Zamet, from the pics it seems the chimney isn't there yet - but it will start forming with the current thaws. Usually we checked it out beginning of June!
Best (first pic is super) I always remember the difficult - at least for me, descent from the top of Mrzle into the shaft!
Škaf - when there is no snow1
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nod3214. 06. 2008 12:50:37
Two weeks ago we were at the Škaf when it broke through the bottom. It was about 20m and 8-10m wide. Very nice, only the rocks move. Good to have helmets.
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mad matheuss24. 05. 2009 16:51:48
Today, besides many visitors to Matkov Cirque, I visited the Škaf. According to fellow hikers, it's about 20m deep, approx. 6-7m wide and has already broken through the bottom. The snow patch to the Škaf can be crossed without special gear at current temps, and on descent we can "ski" down it with some skill.
Best mountain greetings!
Matkov škaf1
Matkov kot2
depth ca 20m, width ca 6-7m3
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several tens of meters long, two meters high tunnels in the lower part of the snowfield5
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Jure S14. 03. 2010 18:33:49
Today I visited Matkov Cirque aka the forgotten cirque with my girlfriend nasmeh.
Weather was fantastic, sometimes very warm. Old snow base still holds human weight, in my case 85 kg. On the old snow base there's about 25 cm of new snow, but not problematic for walking as it's dry.
No tracks before, now there's a trail to the hut just before the end of the valley nasmeh so off we go for a walk while the weather's nice.
Attaching some pics nasmeh
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geppo14. 03. 2010 18:45:01
Jure, how far can you drive by car - is the road closed beyond the barrier for vehicles?
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Jure S14. 03. 2010 18:52:12
I parked where the road branches off to the tourist farm. There's a barrier, but it's always down, somewhere in the torrent bed.
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geppo9. 05. 2010 16:10:53
ŠKAF
Early morning I drive off intending to visit Matkov Cirque (chasm).
Forecasters promised a nice morning. I wake up to a cloudy morning and rain wets the windshield a few times to Solčava. Not too worried, no demanding trail awaits.
Instead of Logarska right to Pavličevo sedlo then left to the cirque.
Park the car and wade into water (lake) flooding the forest road. A bit further it caused real devastation and part of the road no longer exists.
Beeches just starting to develop leaves, many still have buds. Ramsons begin to bloom and waterfalls fed by melting snow roar loudly. I visit waterfalls and enjoy the fresh spray from them. Soon on the scree looking for tracks. Not many and few visitors seem to be around.
Last part quite steep and before the wall I put on helmet.
Škaf is broken through and about 15m deep. Go a bit further toward Latvica. Stop, no tracks, searching path and snow collapses. Return to Škaf (those few pegs from Škaf on - one is borderline to pull out!!) Get some sweat drops under helmet (not from effort).
Returning from Škaf careful first 50m, then "ski".
At the hut ("Bajti") refresh and snack. Soon spot the hiker we met earlier struggling uphill.
Pack up and to the car.
Trail not demanding, maybe last 50m very steep. Few visitors. For all (lots of photos) used about 4 hours.
Go while there's still snow!!
Regards
Raduha in the morning1
There is no road anymore..2
Such a view awaits me at the start3
Waterfall4
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Teloh10
Here for refreshment and snack11
Observing when I will notice the hiker I met earlier12
There he is!13
This is how the path starts or ends14
Clouds gathering behind! (Savinjek, Latvica, Mrzla gora, Matkova kopa)15
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Volk9. 05. 2010 19:20:16
Definitely a nice trip in current conditions.
mežikanje

Regards.
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geppo9. 05. 2010 19:25:00
Hey Volk, how many times have I remembered (today while hiking here) your knowledge of this area. I could give you more descriptions up there....
Regards
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Volk9. 05. 2010 20:06:47
mežikanje.
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bibarocksostanj9. 05. 2010 21:37:54
Geppo, if you're up there every year, how does it compare to last year.
To me it seemed very very deep last year.
Regards
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bibarocksostanj9. 05. 2010 21:38:09
Geppo, if you're up there every year, what's the comparison with last year.
To me it seemed very very deep last year.
Lp
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geppo10. 05. 2010 05:57:19
Last year I wasn't at the shaft. The height changes by a few meters for sure. I've seen one so deep it felt like looking into a factory chimney. This year the snow height (shaft top) is slightly lower than the logbook.
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robi1410. 05. 2010 07:36:50
I was up on May 1st, bottom not broken through yet. About 10m deep, but didn't hang around nearby much due to lots of falling rocks.
Would warn about deep crack in avalanche about 20m below top, runs from middle of avalanche to right wall side, about 0.5m wide.

Wonderful trip, my better half even more surprised by wild tour end than me.
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robi1410. 05. 2010 07:43:59
On latest (Geppo's) pics much less snow than 10 days ago and Jezera wasn't running down road yet then, though tried a bit... nasmeh
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geppo10. 05. 2010 07:51:52
You're right robi14! Snow melts and settles fast. Despite early morning it was fully south-facing.
That crack is quite visible so you can avoid it. Warning spot for inexperienced hikers. Also dangerous to waterfalls with snow. Water made tunnels under snow, can collapse under load.
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mosovnik10. 05. 2010 11:05:43
Congratulations geppo!
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