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| katty20. 01. 2012 21:21:46 |
Yeah sure that's it. Couldn't be anything else probably. If there's some other recipe somewhere, I'll forward it.
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| ljubitelj gora20. 08. 2012 21:45:00 |
P.s. Could someone maybe help with advice, when I wake up in the morning I drink quite some coffee with milk right before the hike (we don't drink it every day), when I go on the hike I drink exclusively water while walking/climbing, food is zero, except if I'm really hungry I eat frutabela or a few raisins, because I can't stand sandwiches, since in general I eat only home-made food every day (vegetables + lean meat)... after the hike like this I look like I'm totally wasted , although I feel totally OK, now I don't know what's wrong with me is it salt, too little fluid, food, sleep.... many think this one won't stay upright long, because they say an empty sack doesn't stand upright, on average I do 600m per hour, hike lasts 10-12 hours too and around 2-3000m elevation difference. In the evening after the hike I always practice eating tuna with salt and bread.
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| facko20. 08. 2012 22:15:34 |
100 people 100 answers. Understandable - different ones. Whatever suits each. Above all ... lots of drink. There's supposedly a book titled: "You are not sick - you are thirsty"
I practiced nutrition like this: light breakfast and at the start (and also in between) sandwich with good juicy (not dry) content. On ascent exclusively tea from thermos or hut. At the top yogurt, because usually at the top I don't have super appetite ... On descent - if there was a hut nearby - beef broth and additionally 1 tablespoon of salt inside. Only then some hoppy addition. Then Isostar till end of hike.
P.S. And the day before one magnesium 300 for the muscles that will work the next day 
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| Zebdi20. 08. 2012 22:35:04 |
@LG: do you drink enough? Try combining with some other food. If you drink coffee just out of habit, skip it sometimes. Hard to tell you what will work in your case, I can only say what works for me. Evening before hike I stuff myself with pasta (or anything with high carb content), for breakfast usually something on bread (muesli doesn't suit me best before mountain hikes), then on the way I drink very diluted Isostar (2-3l per day). During hike I don't eat much - every now and then some Frutabela and mandatory at least one sandwich (wholegrain bread, some spread, cheese, veggies..etc). Because as you said - empty sack doesn't stand upright.
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| main21. 08. 2012 08:34:33 |
LG, I had similar problems as you. In addition after returning from hike I was still shaking and cold. Now I don't use much water anymore, but only isotonic. Frutabela is ok. Banana I don't use, because then I burp strangely after them. Regards
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| dprapr21. 08. 2012 08:49:12 |
"on average 600 elevation per hour, hike lasts also 10-12 hours and around 2-3000 elevation difference"
Maybe it's not the drinks and food that's to blame, but too much effort? After such hikes I think it's normal that in the evening you don't look fresh and rested.
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| Alfista21. 08. 2012 10:41:07 |
10 hours is approx 5000kcal which is approx 20 "frutabel" (depending on which one you use).
I doubt you consume that many, so it's no wonder you "scuza".
Careful with health 
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| micamaca21. 08. 2012 11:22:57 |
My practice that works: 2l water, 1l isotonic with spoon of BCA added (for endurance) + salty pirina crackers/bobi plačke (due to salt, proven to help since childhood years), some quality protein bars (just so it doesn't burn you) and stew at hut on descent(if there's some on path); if not, on arrival in car some whey (whey proteins, for regeneration).
Sandwich (if any) exclusively in "vege" style, because otherwise I feel sick.
Multiply quantities based on your weight and gender. LP
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| GregorC21. 08. 2012 13:38:15 |
Start preparing for the tour already the day before with some pasta. Also more fluids. Then I treat myself to a proper breakfast (bread, butter, jam, white coffee) On tour combined water and isotonic drink (can make homemade), raisins, some energy bar, fruit,... After tour then a proper meal and enough fluids. Especially don't forget drinks and regular drinking! I say it's better to go to wc multiple times during tour than be dehydrated once.
Regards
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| urbancek21. 08. 2012 13:57:39 |
Now really I don't know, does really no one in Slovenia know how to use preposition s/z anymore?!!
And this is no longer true...
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| jprim21. 08. 2012 21:17:10 |
@ urbanček, why get angry - preposition s/z, that's a trifle compared to capital letter.
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| jax21. 08. 2012 23:51:53 |
Advice that you shouldn't drink coffee before tour is anyway nonsensical. It's like that you shouldn't drink beer after it. Whatever you advise and say how harmful it is and we must stop. Won't happen.
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| cebelca22. 08. 2012 08:41:40 |
Without morning coffee, I wouldn't even get to the tour starting point, if I'm exaggerating a bit.
And yes, big plate of macaroni day before some longer and strenuous tour does wonders. Proven. Usually I eat even two, one for lunch and then force myself a bit in evening.
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| dvince22. 08. 2012 10:46:53 |
On long mountain hikes (8-10h) with average 2500-3000 m elevation I have bladder with 2 liters isotonic (Isostar or similar) more diluted than recommended doses and honey waffles (lots of calories for little weight. I also use some cereal-fruit bars and bananas. Drink 0.5l per hour regularly in small sips and eat around 150-200kcal/h, so to valley usually arrive sufficiently hydrated with enough energy.
In between usually eat at some hut vegetable soup with lots of salt and couple bread slices and with it drink half liter pure water. Day before for dinner abundant CHO meal (300gr pasta) and drink lots fluid with it for better glycogen stores.
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| andrej7822. 08. 2012 21:14:52 |
Then you drink everything in 2 hours?
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| dvince23. 08. 2012 09:08:06 |
in 4 hours, then refill where possible (huts, springs) and carry Isostar to add to water.
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| BorisM2. 09. 2012 12:38:43 |
I think those gels and isotonic powders are bullshit. For years I've been drinking only water on hikes and some Coca Cola in between, eating Turbo Katka bars, http://prisladkikatki.net/trgovina.html , much better stuff than various frutabels.
As for Coca Cola, much better buster and it lasts longer than various powders and gels. This year on the five-day crossing of the Karnics I drank only water and Coca Cola at huts. If I compare with previous hikes when I still used various gels and drank isotonics, I was much less physically tired this year, the hike was at least one time harder.
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| jany19802. 09. 2012 14:44:59 |
H2O and that's it!
I help myself with berries found along the path(blueberries,raspberries,...)
Artificial food and drinks are only for those who think they help them.
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| Alfista2. 09. 2012 16:22:36 |
Above tree line then chamois and ibex right.
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| tinky3. 09. 2012 09:00:17 |
at the top then rocks and some gentian
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