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| Kanta5. 08. 2014 20:41:51 |
Hello,
I'm new to this forum, I registered because I have a couple of questions, if you can help me 
Here's the thing. I enjoy hiking in the mountains but I only started recently (directly conquering peaks, before I just wandered a bit). This weekend I was on two peaks, Rodica and Črna Prst. It's fine and the view is great too, but I got a bit bored - I wanted to stray from the path and go straight over the rocks (I only wanted that, no misunderstanding). So, I want a bit more adrenaline so I'm looking for a more demanding route. I have in mind the Silva Koren route on Krn. But let me clarify, I've never been on a path with cables and pegs. Steep and demanding terrain isn't foreign to me as a hunter, rocks are a bit more unfamiliar, although I like climbing, but I don't like very demanding climbing walls without protection. Of course I'd get a via ferrata set and helmet before going on this route.
I'm wondering if this is suitable/smart for a beginner? My opinion is I can always turn around and go back if it doesn't work.
Thanks for the tips.
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| Janez Seliškar5. 08. 2014 20:54:08 |
You say you're a hunter. Probably even there you didn't just buy a gun and go hunting alone.
Mountaineering requires time and gathering experience too.
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| Kanta5. 08. 2014 20:55:37 |
Maybe a tip for some tour?
Thanks
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| miri5. 08. 2014 20:56:39 |
No. Can't even turn around when you want.
Click left column "list of mountains"
Hundreds on the list.
Safe walking to you.
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| Janez Seliškar5. 08. 2014 21:00:26 |
First tip: Find a companion who already has some experience, or start going on trips announced on social networks, e.g. on FB.
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| Kanta5. 08. 2014 21:15:42 |
I'll check it out, thanks for the tips.
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| Ruzowski5. 08. 2014 21:24:19 |
cool dude.....first tip? sex&punk&alcohol& in between motorhead and that's it... second day hike! knowledge will come.... silva koren? show her what you got.
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| Kanta5. 08. 2014 21:25:31 |
Still smarter to ask here than go straight into the walls...
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| ljubitelj gora5. 08. 2014 21:47:10 |
I don't recommend skipping steps, try some easy ones this year, next year demanding ones and maybe in two years very demanding routes. Eventually you'll be drawn to pathless terrain and II-III climbing, winter ascents in gullies and reaching winter summits like Triglav, Jalovec, Skuta. By then you'll be in some mountaineering school. But as you wrote in the last sentence, turn back, yes if you know your limits, as beginners it's hard to recognize them. Kopiščar route has a steep climbing section at the start that turns into hiking variant, then the hardest climbing to the top of the window. When I went last year first time well prepared on Kopiščar and Jubilee I got around without issues, alone, of course without via ferrata kit.
I have this on Krn planned, maybe this weekend but I'm worried it'll be hot again.
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| Kanta5. 08. 2014 21:55:21 |
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| ljubitelj gora5. 08. 2014 22:20:35 |
Don't know, I only went to Škrbina and then to Tolminski Kuk and towards Tolminski Migavec and down to the pasture back to Razor pasture and back to Stador, how close are you?
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| Keko5. 08. 2014 22:47:31 |
Given that you're a hunter and if you're also active, I think you have some fitness. If you're healthy, normally developed and not afraid of heights, or in other words if you're in fairly good psychophysical condition and can grip the cable and step normally, probably that route you suggested shouldn't be too tough a challenge. Even a very demanding route, if well protected, isn't that bad.
Many years ago, when we were still kids, one of us drove us to Triglav via Tominšek's route and over Dolič, Lepo Špičje and Komarče to Bohinj, even though we had no idea where we were going. Since we were mostly farm boys and girls, we didn't lack fitness and had no problem with the path itself. We hadn't even heard that there are helmets or protection kits.
Now when there's as much information as you want, all kinds of hiking and protection gear as much as you want and if you also have the qualities that I listed at the beginning, go happily also on more demanding routes. You'll find out your limit yourself.
A huge number of Slovenians go to the mountains only once in their life and that's on a very demanding path leading to Triglav. It's worrying that many of them really overestimate their abilities.
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| Kanta5. 08. 2014 23:15:51 |
From the starting point (Planika Kuk) I'm about 30 min drive by car.
Regarding these "cabled and pegged" routes, the thing is that on pics and videos it doesn't look too hard. And if additionally protected, I really don't see what could go wrong (in terms of fall/skid, assuming good conditions, nice dry weather).
On the other hand, I know well that many accidents happen in mountains so it's not trivial. One thing is looking at pics and videos, another is being there and actually climbing/ascending. To be honest, my self-confidence worries me a bit.
That's why I asked if I should go on such a trip, as I think that way I'd get the best impression if I'm ready or able to tackle such a route, or if I should avoid such routes for a while.
I know giving such advice is a bit awkward, since I doubt anyone here knows my abilities and experience and behavior in terrain (probably not even myself 100%). I figure an experienced alpinist can quickly see (on a trip of course) if someone is suitable or used to specific terrain or not.
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| ljubitelj gora5. 08. 2014 23:19:17 |
Keko... Yeah, those then say first and last time on such a route, because it scares them stiff 
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| tulipan6. 08. 2014 10:01:18 |
Matej, Kanta and Shuensha!
Post a report about your joint hike!
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| Kanta7. 08. 2014 00:28:02 |
I have another question, namely what shoes would you recommend to me?
Currently using Mammut Redburn Pro Men which I really like, only problem is that after a while the balls of my feet start hurting badly. I'll try solving the problem with other insoles and socks.
For tougher terrain I have La Sportiva Nepal Evo GTX which are excellent, just a bit clumsy for nice paths and quite warm in summer.
Good experiences also with Garmont and Merrell brands.
Any advice (brand, model, high / low)?
Thanks
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| ljubitelj gora7. 08. 2014 00:47:46 |
Don't know others, I have Tibet from Alpina, they are leather and work well for me, others swear by La Sportiva and similar because they are nicer, brand is good, but they gotta smell good too
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| tulipan7. 08. 2014 08:25:19 |
Kanta!
For a beginner you have pretty good footwear and rich experiences.
Probably Matej helps you with advice!
Anyway just three days to full moon, which has exceptionally strong influence in these summer months!
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| Žiga227. 08. 2014 08:48:31 |
@Kanta
Nepal Evo are winter boots, suitable for snow and ice and automatic crampons. Same ones I have for winter.
For dry rock, personally swear by Planika, model Mangart.
See that they are high enough at ankle and stable. And of course Vibram sole, etc.
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| Kanta7. 08. 2014 10:31:32 |
Brother has Alpina Tibet, I'll borrow them to see how they fit me.
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| Busterman7. 08. 2014 10:48:39 |
LS Nepal are technical winter boots, waste to tire legs in summer with those clunkers.
Something that fits nicely on foot, not too heavy but quality.
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