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Visoka Rateška Ponca

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SilvestrO23. 08. 2015 10:17:37
On the 3rd picture it's not Vevnica...zavijanje z očmi
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Trobec23. 08. 2015 10:33:21
@Silvestro, thanks for correction, there I placed Vevnica too close to Mangart.

@instrumel, that's why dead end in quotesnasmeh Via normale goes to Planiška Škrbina over steep grassy terrain. Up nothing special, down quite awkward. At Planiška Škrbina then to Slovenian path, which is again very demanding secured path. One section on ridge even without protections, though quite airy. Wouldn't say via normale is substantially easier, if at all. But secured part much shorter. Anyway ferrata not among most demanding, nor long. In difficulty and length of secured part about level of Gradiška (though such comparisons always ungrateful as different people perceive difficulty differently).
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istrumel23. 08. 2015 11:33:47
thanks
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janez.novak7. 08. 2016 17:34:51
Today circular tour: Zacchi - climbing path to Visoka Ponca and descent over Planiška Škrbina. Since the climbing path is not described and I had some dilemmas I'll give short description. From junction of path from Zacchi towards Srednja Ponca to entry of climbing path quite long approach with quite some cables. The actual climbing part starts around 2060m, ends 100m higher. Path nicely arranged (at one place torn cable replaced by fixed rope - OK). As curiosity, cables are grounded (lightning!). Above ladder still some cables, then orient by cairns, just below summit two more cables. Orientation in good weather not hard. The path itself not steep and actually safer than path from Planiška Škrbina.
Initial pitch - even fi 26, others fi 141
Access from the junction to the via ferrata2
Start of the via ferrata3
Grounding of the cable (lightning protection)4
Approximate height of the via ferrata start5
Lojtrca, behind it there are still some cables, then orient by cairns6
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gams116. 08. 2017 12:55:46
The above assessment of conditions from last year still holds for this year. Path from Zacchi to ferrata junction well and freshly marked, ascent over ferrata not overly difficult, most annoying is lots of loose scree and gravel easily triggered. Short section before iron ladder still has rope instead of torn cable. Last part of ascent above ferrata to summit no longer has visible markings (ita red dots), so need to watch more and orient on cairns.
Descent to Slovenian side very demanding and "sparingly" secured, especially if arriving at summit via ita ferrata, seems some cable for safety missing here. zmeden
morning at Zacchi hut1
entrance to the via ferrata2
lots of rocks and scree underfoot on the via ferrata3
view of the ridge between the Poncas from the via ferrata, just as someone crosses it4
some marking above the via ferrata towards the summit would be very useful5
Visoka Ponca at the summit6
descent to the Slovenian side7
crossing the airy ridge8
view from the top of Srednja Ponca to Visoka Ponca9
view of the descent back towards Zacchi, which is also quite steep and awkward10
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VanSims16. 12. 2017 13:58:34
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tinky16. 12. 2017 14:11:58
Current conditions again, half a year agojezenzmeden
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jeranj7. 07. 2018 12:44:16
What are current conditions to Visoka Ponca via ferrata?
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serznoz7. 07. 2018 12:52:34
No snow, if that's the point of the question.
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jeranj7. 07. 2018 16:20:51
@serznoz thanks.

what about the difficulty of the route? with which route can it be compared?
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serznoz8. 07. 2018 23:40:01
I didn't go via the ferrata, so I can't judge its difficulty, but there's already something written about it above. Maybe this helps; the normal route is also exposed and poorly protected in places, especially below the summit: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/106236304443679543440/album/6574090997107806049?authkey=CMi5q97T5vPWNw
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Edina20. 08. 2018 17:37:56
Conditions on the path similar to last year and the year before, (janez.novak and gams1). I also think the ferrata itself is not the key spot on the route; already before it you need to be careful a few times, e.g. crossing the gully before entry into it. And then when you arrive spoiled by reliable protections at the top and descend towards the notch, you have to quickly switch to the new situation. I think some extra protection on that side would come in handy. Otherwise great tour in wild terrain with a thousand views of the north Mangart face, which shamelessly competes with Triglav's. The tour is also long and tiring, especially if done circularly and now also from Tamar to Planica. When I was last on this path a few years ago, the car was waiting for me in Tamar. What can we do, times change and it's good that a cold beer intervenes in betweennasmeh. How was the connection and safe travelsnasmeh

http://stezeinsledi.blogspot.com/2018/08/dve-ponci.html
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janez.novak19. 10. 2018 21:01:25
Today to Visoka Ponca - from Mangart Lakes past Zacchia (closed till 8.12.) up the ferrata, down the normal route. The ferrata itself is not so demanding, more care is needed on the descent to the Planica notch, and the normal route is no joke either. Path newly marked (under summit orient by cairns) and bushes trimmed to the thick cable. Met no one on the whole path, not even chamois. Weather typical October.
This rope will last many more years.1
View towards Mangart2
Grounded steel cables on the via ferrata.3
Ladder below the summit section.4
Descent towards Planiška škrbina.5
Autumn colours6
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janez.novak15. 06. 2019 21:32:57
Today to VRP, namely up the climbing route, down the normal. Path OK, but watch scree on slabs. From ferrata junction there are two snowfields - first shorter and bypassable, second a bit longer before ferrata start. At least for the second it's good to have an ice axe, because if it sweeps you...
Zajla fi 26 forever - how did they get it up?1
Snowfield before the via ferrata entrance2
Mangart and snowfield on the Italian Path (ice axe mandatory)3
View towards Mangart4
These gloves have already let quite a lot of grit through5
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gojzarka18. 07. 2020 13:35:40
Nice regards, has anyone been to the Poncas lately? What are the conditions? Thanks
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redbull18. 07. 2020 18:15:25
Regarding what, snow? Everything as in previous years, no snow anywhere. But follow the weather forecast, one of the key points in the high mountains.
Good luck
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garmont8. 08. 2020 15:27:56
Today from Planica past Tamar over Srednja to the summit of Visoka.
Some cables replaced, markings wait for better times. Unfortunately bushes too, pushing wildly onto the path. mežikanje
Otherwise nice steep path, exceptional summit views.nasmeh
Regards
Waiting...1
Young families in the cirque.2
On Srednja Ponca.3
Onwards to Visoka...4
Towards the notch.5
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Quite a few visitors today.7
Žlahten vrh.8
Beautiful views.9
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Descent, Mangart looms in the background.11
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2061alessio7. 08. 2021 18:01:28
after official check by C.A.I. mountain guide path 513B to ferrata - due to rockfall - and "via ferrata alla Ponza Grande" ferrata to High Ponca - due to old cables not meeting new EN norms - closed mrk pogled(put up warning sign at path start near Zacchi hut)
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n3jc25. 11. 2021 19:50:56
On Sunday with the dog we dashed to Srednja Ponca from Tamar. No sense wasting many words on conditions, because they'll change a lot tomorrow. Maybe just this - there are some shaded sections on the path where compacted hard snow can hold even when the rest of the path is thawing. So be careful. On the upper part be cautious because of grass under snow.

Anyway the agile jumpy critter had to be lifted man-height at three spots - first at the cave, then mid-cable, and once higher up. Keep in mind if taking a dog.

Slope was thickly leaf-covered in first part, faded markings in places created illusion of easier pathless terrain. nasmeh Knew the path from before and finished tour daytime no problems, so super and magical. But can stray on path and if night falls then big problems with finding next/prev mark... so be careful. Path seemed less overgrown than two years ago, but steep same as always. nasmeh
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Volkec2
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Martuljek6
Visoka Ponca7
Mangart8
Kristal9
Volkec10
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Under the cable12
Above the cave13
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bagi16. 07. 2022 13:55:27
On Italian side of Ponca ridge at Zacchi hut notice of ferrata closure to Velika Ponca (path 513B). Apparently closed due to landslide, but didn't feel like checking real status because of snotty weather. Rather did circular tour visiting Mala Ponca and descent at lower lake.
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