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| malenka14. 09. 2020 23:32:52 |
Velkavrh, on picture 5 I assume it's mountain clover. Rampions are too heavy for us, there are several very similar species.
On picture 14 it's common yarrow. 15 reminds me of balloon gentian.
For 16 there could be at least one more similar species: Gentiana prostrata (prostrate gentian). For short-leaved gentian the correct name is Gentiana favratii (round-leaved gentian). The first doesn't grow here, the second is very rare. I didn't know the term short-leaved, now I searched and found the connection of Latin names - some have G. favratii as a subspecies of G. brachyphylla. I met this gentian only once, on Krnčica.
25 is single-spiked drywort.
29 is not alpine oxeye but Leucanthemopsis alpina (alpine daisy).
32 is definitely not alpine cress.
34 is not Sieber's rampion but dark-leaved rampion, Phyteuma globulariifolium.
39 is not scaly rockcress, has too short/too wide leaves. Rather clustered, but poor picture.
The edelweiss at the end seem to me single-flowered (C. uniflorum). I don't know, based on which feature you determined them as alpine.
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| malenka14. 09. 2020 23:42:29 |
Regarding zvončica's grintavec - yes the leaves are visible, I would also say it's shiny - no alternative.
In velkavrh's case the leaves are really poorly visible or have narrower lobes, so it could also be common grintavec, which also has such calyx bristles.
Thanks, Vito, for the kindness!
kati1909, I hope you saw my answer about gentians on the previous page.
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| otiv15. 09. 2020 08:09:40 |
As I have written several times myself, recognizing little flowers based on image material is very difficult. Especially for us who are not professionally versed in this direction.
So I most often just write the basic name, so as not to teach false faith.
Stay healthy and enjoy these gifted warm days.
And some more pictures from the path Rudno polje - Debeli vrh
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| velkavrh15. 09. 2020 08:40:29 |
malenka thanks! I always position myself at the end of the column to at least partially see mountain flowers along the path and I don't have time to look closely at the leaves. I really lack a good camera - I'll get one next year.
Years ago I was looking for gentians. In my list I have twenty species recorded. Of course I haven't found many yet. I've never found for example the marsh one. I actually can't distinguish small gentians. But balloon, snow, Triglav, spring ones yes. The others no. I borrow the Flora Alpina handbook from the library and now I can't search for undetermined mountain flowers there. Short-leaved gentian-Gentiana brachyphylla I found in Hoppe's handbook - translated by Dr. Milan Lovka. I can't distinguish edelweiss - alpine and single-flowered seem very similar to me. Height is the same, flowers are multiple on stem for both species, leaves same length, both grow in such dense cushions. I know for exact determination I'd have to compare flowers and leaves of both and of course photograph them well. There are really good descriptions of mountain flowers in the Mala flora Slovenije handbook. Unfortunately I miss such a handbook also with good flower photos.
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| malenka15. 09. 2020 19:32:35 |
Velkavrh, you'll surely find marsh gentian by Lake Cerknica (for this year it's already late).
I myself don't know edelweiss well, especially those that don't grow here. I can only compare web images, which species it resembles more. Here I noticed that alpine edelweiss should be much more woolly hairy, at least regarding non-flowering shoots. But such determination is of course not professional.
LP
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| malenka15. 09. 2020 19:58:21 |
Triglav hawk's-beard (Crepis terglouensis)
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| malenka15. 09. 2020 19:59:40 |
Coastal broom (Genista holopetala)
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| malenka15. 09. 2020 20:00:51 |
Starry greenweed (Genista radiata)
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| malenka15. 09. 2020 20:04:32 |
One-flowered wintergreen (Moneses uniflora)
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| malenka15. 09. 2020 20:16:23 |
Siberian iris (Iris sibirica)
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| malenka15. 09. 2020 20:22:12 |
Bracted saxifrage (Saxifraga androsacea)
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| velkavrh16. 09. 2020 06:00:34 |
Malenka presents interesting mountain flowers to us. Triglav hawk's-beard I probably see often, but probably think it's alpine dandelion. Common one-flowered wintergreens I don't know. Bracted saxifrage I've been searching for many years, but can't find it. The literature even says it's common. It is supposed to grow even to 3400m. Grows on moist, stony, mostly on limestone soils, stony grasslands, snow hollows. Mr. Strgar also lists habitats, but I didn't find it there.
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| malenka16. 09. 2020 11:07:11 |
Velkavrh, I doubt you see Triglav dandelion often. It is really rare, I've hiked a lot in hills, but saw it only at Staničev dom. You can't confuse it with dandelion, as dandelion has bare cup (involucre) and at least a few cm high stem, which Triglav dandelion practically doesn't have - flower is practically on ground.
Bracted saxifrage with us is not common, as it doesn't like limestone; find it e.g. in cirques below Mangart saddle (there also alpine monkshood and procumbent buttercup). Of my pics of this saxifrage only first from there, others from abroad.
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| zlatica16. 09. 2020 20:15:08 |
Nice flowers, Vito. 7 is Fritsch's hawkweed, 5 common gladiolus.  lp
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| plezac16. 09. 2020 21:15:45 |
Hi,
from last weekend in the Julian Alps, I still have some undetermined flowers left. Please help.
LP Janez
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| velkavrh17. 09. 2020 09:22:31 |
plezac-so it is:
No.1.-Obir whitlow-grass
No. 2. and 3.-alpine monkshood
No.4-bearded bellflower
No. 5-alpine sow-thistle
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| velkavrh17. 09. 2020 09:39:13 |
darinka4-I'm figuring out which mountain flower you photographed:
pics 2.,3.,4.,and 6.-alpine leopard's bane
pics 8. and 15.-evergreen saxifrage
pics 10., 11.,13. and 14.-julian poppy
pic no. 7.-ear-leaved bellflower
pics no.9 and 16.-definitely edelweiss -which I don't know-rock ones I think not
pic no. 12-wilted flower -which one is harder to tell as leaves not seen-maybe from wild angelica -just guessing
pic no. 1-musk saxifrage-you can't miss it because of -I call it -frozen moss.
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| zvončica17. 09. 2020 11:44:09 |
Darinka4, nice photos from a nice place. Regards
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