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Today I started from Preddvor via St. Jakob. First to Potoška gora, then on to Javorov vrh and further along the ridge to the saddle between JV and Cjanovca. This path had already been walked, so I just followed the footprints. Since I saw that very recently (maybe even one of today's paragliders, there were quite a few in the air) someone went up to Cjanovca, I decided to follow the trail as long as it went. Conditions were quite wintery soon after Jakob onwards, from the aforementioned saddle up I was sinking up to my ass in places. But it somehow went and I took that sinking more as a joke, quite a bit higher up it became too annoying though, as with every step I sank up to my b..t . Snow was increasingly rotten and mushy, so despite being only about 100m elevation from the top, I decided to turn back. Dunno if because I couldn't stand the constant sinking anymore or out of caution for possible avalanches... Anyway, Cjanovca won't go anywhere...

From the saddle between Cjanovca and JV there were no tracks directly towards Jakob and I had to break trail almost half the way... Good conditioning training .

Otherwise excellent day with top-notch views.

We started early on Sunday from Krnica. Past the hut onwards across Kriška stena (conditions: path excellently marked, ascent through the wall very nicely routed, some scree in places so helmet is pretty much obligatory, self-belaying though.... subjective thing. We didn't use it).

At the top of the wall left down towards Škrlatica to Rdeča škrbina. From there to Dolkova špica, then back the same path to the top of Kriška stena (Conditions: path well marked to the bivouac turnoff, further on fewer marks and those are quite faded. But plenty of cairns that make orientation very easy. After initial descent follows enjoyable almost flat walk to the scree, which is pretty nasty uphill, super for descent ).

Quick hop to Križ (Conditions: walk with two ropes and a passage not for fat ones ) and via Bovške vratica to Pogačnikov dom (PD), where we slept (Conditions: enjoyable walk).

Next day a bit longer lie-in and only mid-morning head towards Dovška vrata and from there to Stenar (Conditions: path very well marked, section to vrata across Kriški podi a walk, then short ascent on scree which is quite tolerable and final ascent on rocky but not steep summit slope. In short, nothing problematic).

Followed by descent back to Dovška vrata and from there ascent to Bovški gamsovec (Conditions: path well marked, somewhere in the middle section somewhat exposed, but for the most cautious there's rope all the way). Again descent back to vrata, from there towards PD.

Soon left the marked path and headed left towards scree under Gamsovec and Pihavec, where we joined the marked path from PD. From there up scree and then some climbing to Pihavec (Conditions: turnoff from marked path towards PD poorly visible, but about 200 m from Dovška vrata. Then path quite followable with some cairns, once on scree no problem at all. Own story is the ascent on scree to the start of climbing on Pihavec. Steep, steep, steep and loose, loose, loose... . But you survive it... . Follows some steep even vertical climbing, but protections and marks OK. Helmet obligatory here, as the section above first climbing pitch impossible to pass without dropping some pebble or stone. If crowded, recommended to wait below until those above progress out of that nasty part. Last part of path somewhat gritty, so caution not amiss.). We descended to scree same path.

Already earlier the previously unplanned Šplevta had caught our eye, so we descended scree straight down to the path crossing scree under Pihavec towards Šplevta. This path unmarked, as is the ascent to Šplevta summit (Conditions: path crossing scree under Pihavec visible in parts from all sides, so descent to it choosable. Climbing part of ascent though... We don't have much experience with similar variants and I was a bit scared. Plenty of holds otherwise, but some rock quickly comes loose in hand... in short... maximum caution and prudence on both ascent and descent... as slip or fall probably fatal). Descended approx same path and then walk to PD, where we slept second time.

Third day again started early towards Planja saddle, from saddle first to Razor then to Planja (Conditions: to saddle mostly over nasty sliding scree. Also not many marks, so recommend constant watch for them... true though given terrain, a step off path not big issue as path quickly found again. From saddle to Razor also quite some scree on path, but mostly not particularly steep so not too tiring. From saddle to Planja path nicely marked, needs some minor climbing, but nothing problematic).

Then from saddle towards Prisank and from Škrbina via Jubilee path to summit (Conditions: path very well marked and protected. Helmet obligatory, self-belaying "tasty" , on necessity of self-belaying I wouldn't... for me very subjective). Descended via ridge to Vršič (Conditions: very well marked ridge path, somewhat exposed in places but very well protected... helmet stay on head, self-belaying... depends on individual), from where a friendly Italian couple with camper took us to the valley where we had car parked at parking under 3rd serpentine.

After three days now somewhat tired, but still... despite not quite ideal weather second and second half of third day... super tour!!!!

Recommend repeat if seems interesting to someone....

And some pics.

@Lamps

Thanks 😃.

Hi. Does anyone have information on the snow on the path from Kališče, over Bašeljsko sedlo to the top? Can it be done without winter gear? Thanks for the info in advance.

@ločanka thanks.

Does anyone know anything about conditions in this area?

Were there yesterday and as @garmont says, the path is completely dry .

Same on the path over Škarjev rob, only the upper descent part is quite annoyingly gravelly.

@LidijaJesih thanks.

So, via Žrelo clear. What about descent over Škarjev rob? Anyone know?

I'm interested too - is there still any snow on Hanzova and on the descent via the southern?

If anyone's interested - we went yesterday via Slovenska to Kranjska koča (btw, hut was closed yesterday).

That snow patch right before wall entry can be crossed without issues without winter gear. Rest of path all fine.

@asdf thanks.

I'm also interested in conditions for this route. To Ledine and up the climbing path to Baba. Descent towards Jezersko saddle and back to Ledine. Still any snow?

After a long time I glanced at this thread, and I don't see any more posts from the selfie king or first jabbed guy on this forum.

Does anyone know, has he given up on his mission to enlighten all who disagree with him and retired?

Serious question to the ardent (and unfortunately here increasingly rude) advocates of vaccination...

Answer at the end, first some number play. Official ones, from corona tracker and NIJZ, so no one accuses me of "operating" with some random numbers.

Facts:

- in Slovenia there are over 777,000 fully vaccinated people or 37% of population
- so no one nitpicks that minors can't decide themselves and parents decide for them, for this "study" we use the percentage of full vaccination of adult population, which is 44%
- official number of recovered is approx 250,000

Speculation:

- no one knows exactly how many got vaccinated for "status", how many because they believe it's good for health reasons. From people I know personally who got vaccinated, at least 80% did it solely for status. And so no one accuses me of knowing only that kind of people, let's say very "safely" that status vaccinators are only 50%, i.e. approx 388,000. Same for those who supposedly vaccinated for health reasons.

- no one knows exactly how many recovered would have vaccinated if they hadn't gotten sick. Again let's say half. And if we continue with the ratio of "status" and "health" vaccinators 50/50 as above, there would be 125,000 of the latter

So, 388,000 vaccinated because they believe it's good for their health and 125,000 potential like-minded, that's 513,000 people or 29% of all adult population of Slovenia.

Since we're talking about people with voting rights, the definition for or against vaccination could be seen as some kind of referendum, so 29% for and large majority, a whopping 71% against. And how vaccination interest looks currently in Slovenia, the referendum result won't change for a long time, if at all.

Now the question I mentioned at the beginning: Where do some - let me use the same word one of them once used for me - creeps from the "referendum" losers get the right to here and elsewhere lecture the "referendum winners" and insult them in all sorts of ways?

Isn't the essence of democracy that the majority is right?

And otherwise, sadly probably hopeless, but this message should be heard and seen by our government and many others around the world.

Primož anyway shows his enthusiasm for his achievements with his award-winning selfies and there's no doubt that he really enjoys the mountains .

But it could be said (and I remember when he posted his contributions still from the period when the family counted 4 members and later crossed out or renounced that 1/4 of the family then), that then 2/4, now 2/5 of the family by the faces they're making on photos where the selfie king laughs so "from the heart", don't enjoy it at all

@VanSims:

SDS is not a right-wing, not a far-right party. The current SDS is a fascist party.