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Picture number 15 shows a beautiful, but very poisonous (root) preobjeda.

Photos 11-24, -25 and 30 show Logarski stan. Icmankov stan is on the other side of the saddle in the west-east direction. You didn't get Logarske peči on any photo. But you describe exactly Logarska peč.

Gepo, maybe my hint will help you. The cross is placed on KUPU. That peak is called (and locals call it Kup) Na Kupu. 1808 meters. Jelovc however is the highest peak 1845 meters.

I don't know routes in that terrain. I've been there only twice. And even now I don't fully know where I walked.

Sorry, but those models sit in heated armchairs and air-conditioned rooms

That year I was for the first time on Križevnik and via Polšek planina back to Bevska planina. Upon arrival to mom I was also beaten. She probably didn't know where I was for six hours. Nor did I. For orientation I imagined Račka farm and survived. With a stick on the butt it was "no big deal", though it hurt badly. I repeated that route once more when I was twenty-five years old. But then I didn't get away so cheaply. I wasn't beaten though.

Geppo, sorry, but I have to correct you. The correct name is Bevska planina, not Belšekova, as you write. From the ruin, which was once a shepherd's hut, climb straight up (when you're up there again), and you'll reach Bevski rob, from where a quite demanding chamois track takes you under the walls of Križevnik. There "where your heart desires". Lots of options. If you're lucky, you'll find the bivouac in Zijalka, which was used by Šaleški alpinists many years ago. Now it's abandoned. The fact that I know all this is also a coincidence. When I was five years old (my father died when I was four) and mom was forced to take over the pasture of Bevska livestock on Bevska planina to survive with me and my two years younger sister. The woman who pastured the livestock was called Majerca in Solčava. Since while tending the livestock (I was only five years old) I had a lot of time for myself, I got to know the beauties and dangers of this once beautiful Bevska planina and its near and far surroundings. It was the year 1955.

Yes Geppo I have to tell you, that we marked that path from Klemenča Cave me and my friends Korošc and Fux and we fell into disgrace with our "bosses" from PD Solčava but we survived. The trail was there from time immemorial. Even before the landslide in Rjavci. Unfortunately I don't know the year of that landslide. Jože Robanov told me that his old mother (who was Klemenča) told him that the farmers from Logarska and Matkov kot had to drive the livestock towards Železna Kapla so it survived, because it couldn't graze here until the rain washed the dust off the vegetation. That supposedly lasted three weeks and more. That supposedly happened before 1900, how much nobody knows anymore. And we drew those markings in 1994, when my wife and I were caretakers at Klemenča Cave. That was life.

Your spitting on the (in your view) "marker" is meaningless. Someone is the owner of this land and rocks and (in my opinion) marked the route for a future logging trail that he needs to get to "HIS" wood. But you were FOREIGNERS and INTRUDERS there. Such ranting will also have to end. Property is property. Someone once wrote: HOMELAND IS NOT AN EMPTY WORD.... But these people had their land stolen sixty years ago and only now got it back. Have you ever thought about whose land you walk on. If you're right that someone did it out of mischief, then he's worthy of every criticism. According to my version, you owe someone an apology.

The chapel is on Molička Peč. Molička planina is quite far away in the direction towards Polšek.

On pic No. 12 is the hut on MOLIČKA PEČ. Molička planina is far away.

Skala 123, you mixed a bit. The hut in pic16 is shepherd hut on DOLGA TRATA. ZELENA TRATA is where the path to Lučka Koča splits from the trail to Dolga Trata.

And you've also written many things wrong. Among other things that these are larch plantations. Oh valley man, have you ever thought who could plant such a countless population of larches? This was created by nature and these are GOD'S plantations

As far as I know from Robanov Jož's story this glacial moraine is called zaspani hriber. Never heard or read Kopica. It's located right under Turska gora or under Menih, as that pointed rock sticking out of the scree or Peski is called (locals call scree Peski.) Left of Menih or Zaspani hribra to Pasje sedlo it's called Zadnji Okrešelj.

Picture number 18, that you described as Krnica, is named "Za ogradcem". The saddle above it is Pasje sedlo. From Pasje sedlo under the walls of Kamniško sedlo to the marked path Pod Kotliči it's called Zadnji Okrešelj.