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Hello, my acquaintance, an experienced mountaineer and lover of pathless terrain in the alpine world, has asked me to obtain information about the mentioned tour. Any information about this path will be useful to him and he thanks everyone in advance.

Žakelj's bivouac on "Stebrasta cliff" Mežakla, suuuuper artistic installation that beneficially blends with the natural environment and offers hikers, besides nature's wonders, also cultural artistic enrichment.
With this artwork Mr. Žakelj surely deserves one of the awards that bring a fat addition to the pension.

Every year, same people, same kitsch.

Kitsch and ads are foreign elements in the mountains.

Primoza- 240 rolls of paper, 240 l milk???
https://www.dominvrt.si/novice/dr-andrej-perko-vecje-zaloge-wc-papirja-padejo-v-oci.html

Oh, please leave mountains to mountains and mountaineers and don't drag up there that coca-cola kitsch.

Some years ago I started from Temljin to the already abandoned hamlet Podleskovco, continued past several abandoned farms (pri Juriju.... Podorehi). To the Podorehi farm there was still a hardly visible path, continuation to abandoned planina, now hunting hut, is pathless. Continued right along the ridge to the summit - descent to Grahovo
These places always enchant me, here in these solitary deep valleys, abandoned dead farms, still hardly visible, already overgrown steep hayfields, one still finds that primal peace and solitude. At the same time one feels all respect and greatness of these sturdy people who cultivated and loved this steep land.
One of the solitary pearls is also the glen that cuts between Porezen and Kojca towards Otavnik. Along the stream stone traces of mills, sawmills even modest power plants are still visible. When you tackle the steep sunny slope of Porezen, mighty abandoned farm Mušč greets you. Half hour uphill and across the glen to ruins of Obidova farm. Judging from old photos there was below under Obidova farm another
farm named in Samarija, whose ruins forest has already completely covered.
On the opposite side of the glen is hill Kojca and village Zakojca, farm of great master of word France Bevk. In his books, especially in book "Viharnik", I feel and relive these places.

Maybe someone knows what the conditions are like on the "path" from Prehodavci to Dolič, Planika and to Kredarica. Thanks for the answers.

This forum is losing its original purpose. At the beginning technical hiking info was posted - path conditions, protections, snow conditions, bivouacs huts....
Photos were in that sense too, and that info was very useful for hikers.
Lately texts that belong more to "chat rooms" are posted here, photos to family albums. Parents should think a bit what happens on the web before posting photos of their kids.

When I read the posts by Mr. Don and Mr. Ribic, my conscience compels me to give my opinion on this.
I visit Nanos several times a year. I've always been satisfied with the hut service and staff, both previous and current tenants. Without these media polemics, I wouldn't even know the staff changed.
On a beautiful warm October Sunday, Nanos was full of people. I also waited long for tea and cottage cheese struklji, but not because of incompetent or lazy staff, but because of the crowd wanting quick service. While waiting at the counter, an older hiker asked for the toilet key. The lady at the counter said it's currently occupied and she can use the staff toilet, which seemed a very nice gesture to me.

What the above "mountaineers" write goes beyond all bounds of mountaineering etiquette. Some imagine mountain huts as super hotels with WiFi and similar civilization stuff. We must realize and be satisfied that the hut offers shelter and basic service within its possibilities. I don't know if the "old mountaineer" lady realizes that by doing her business with luxurious water flush, she'd prevent the caretaker from making tea for other hikers because water would run out. From an experienced hiker I'd expect knowledge of mountain conditions, no running water, only limited rainwater. So she'd do her business somewhere on the trail in nature. She claims the previous caretaker didn't allow that. Madam, it's not about the caretaker but water, and if God hadn't sent rain to the previous one and the cistern was empty, she'd do the same. To better imagine the staff's dilemma when water runs out in the hut, close your home water supply for a few days and use the toilet, and you'll easily faint, as you wrote.

Everything I wrote applies to Mr. Ribic too, as he just echoes Don.
Probably this gentleman doesn't know conditions in huts in the Triglav range when he writes how needs are decently met there. If he were there on hot August weekends when huts are packed, he'd probably hold his nose. He'd probably blame the caretakers for bad smells, not himself and visitors.
The gentleman even suggests closing the hut due to bad conditions. I suggest he doesn't visit the hut, but for all others it should stay open.