@joža x: we also go to the mountains like that, but now they've been nagging me for some time that they want to sleep somewhere in the mountains.
@primoza: thanks for tips, super! I'll check a bit, over Štapce and similar paths are out though, because they are of the livelier sort and it's hard to rein them in
We once went on a similar path and I roped and belayed them, but I wasn't entirely satisfied