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| jesihar9. 03. 2012 14:22:03 |
I believe it's clear to everyone how costs arise from managing such a site, and that the author tries to earn something on top of all this work - which I fully support. And if we believe the ideology that we live in a country with a free market, he has every right to offer a service (website) under the conditions he wants. Customers (site visitors) should decide if the service suits them and if they want it.
But with all that, I remind the author to keep in mind that the relationship is two-way. The community is not the application (hribi.net site), but the people who create it: namely the regular visitors who contribute relevant content and the relationships between them. The site is at most a playground where they can do that.
By pressuring their patience, there will be less of that, and thus less quality community. Now, if his strategy for monetization is mainly random visitors, it will cost him some regulars who contribute, and thus the quality of the site will decline in the long run. If his calculation works out anyway, he's still on the right track.
The author offers an alternative solution with a 30 € annual subscription. Which amounts to 2.5 € per month. Which in itself isn't much. But if we turn it around, the author wants to earn at least 2.5 € from each visitor, which isn't little, given that a lot of relevant content is contributed by people like this visitor himself.
So the dilemma: close one eye and watch ads or pay 30 €?
Of course no one will pay, and the author probably doesn't expect it, so the message is clear: watch the ads, and don't install equipment that prevents it.
My personal opinion: The author is very confident in the product's quality, but his monopoly isn't as sustainable as he might think. He wants to squeeze a bit more from the site than is good for such a site. Personally, I would build on the community and aim for different advertising methods; but never, really never would I abuse users' patience.
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| ljubitelj gora9. 03. 2012 14:30:27 |
I'd rather recommend lowering this amount 3x to 10 euros/year...it's always better to sell something at a lower price and always have buyers and profit. I understand a lot of time and effort invested, but others contributed a lot of photos too...there should be some gratis for those with over 1000 photos, it took me A LOT of time to upload all that to hribi.net.
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| Hribovc889. 03. 2012 14:44:10 |
April 1st is approaching... but is this some April fool's, I fear not , anyway all this has crossed the line of good taste. As it looks, everything will really slowly become commercialized crap, even in mountains we won't be safe from ads anymore, wouldn't be surprised if huge jumbo posters were placed on top of every hill, mountain, peak.
LG, fully agree with you. How much time it took me to upload photos, when I always uploaded almost a whole photo gallery, and even taking into account only 1 photo at a time can be uploaded, then double uploading, first to picasso then to hribi.net...
Yeah if you keep doing this it will really be USIP, like on PZS forum  
Good times!
BYE.
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| peter29. 03. 2012 15:02:58 |
@Rok!
You wrote: If some individual found a way to bypass ad display we had nothing against it. However, if someone publishes instructions so everyone bypasses ad display, I hope you understand it harms us and that's why we blocked such a way.
I myself found a way and blocked ads, but didn't publish it anywhere. From Hribi net I just got a notice that the system detected I have ads blocked, they blocked the site for me and offered 30€ payment option.
So not everything is true as you write!!
And I'm curious how you can issue an invoice for ad blocking? Are you s.p. d.d. etc??
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| viharnik9. 03. 2012 15:22:08 |
Peter, globally we're ordinary citizens up the creek. Today I went to Porsche to pick up the whole previously paid wiper hose part. The part was wrong, despite looking like the old one, on the computer parts diagram it wasn't even listed anymore. The whole part is now broken into more than ten parts, previously one, and each piece costs 5€. Despite VW supposed to supply old models for years per contract, they don't stick to it. We solved it by heating the plastic and direct connection to the connector.
Now I ask you, where is this material world going and where is justice anymore, only in mountains under blue sky and in hearts of rare people.
Whoever needs car parts, turn to A net store in Stegnah-Lj.
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| dprapr9. 03. 2012 16:06:38 |
Similar to peter2, I was quiet too and didn't announce that I have no ads. Because it seemed logical to me. But since someone published a way to avoid these ads, now we're all punished and as you say, what Rok wrote isn't true. Well, some IT pro will probably still find a way to bypass it.
On the other hand, it wouldn't be fair if only some were blocked.
Question is, if this ad display in such annoying way will pay off long term. It could happen that in the end we're all harmed!
Maybe with a little effort a less annoying ad display way could be found and everyone satisfied!
Regards
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| pikec19. 03. 2012 16:11:24 |
Now I won't look at hribi.net at all anymore, if you're gonna shit on it with such stupidities like ads. That you have to pay so there aren't any, HELLO where have we come to????
SHAME!!!!
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| korl9. 03. 2012 18:09:05 |
The trend for hribi looks really bad, if I click on advertising below I can see that the site visit data offered to advertisers is already a year and a half old, when hribi was dominating. Now the visits are drastically lower, as I can see on traffic rankings
Such an aggressive approach with ultimatum set at 30 EUR leads to web seppuku
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| turbo9. 03. 2012 18:19:46 |
No way?!
Ads don't just harm people
The bunny just fell down from the bad ad, meanwhile the bear doesn't believe his eyes  that something like that is even possible . . .
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| Dominic9. 03. 2012 18:45:21 |
I say the same, they're tightening the noose around their own neck, if it goes like this the site will collapse in a couple of months and someone will make another one and we'll go there just like it was with the vast majority of other sites, where they whined and ultimately forced subscriptions etc.!!!!!!
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| VanSims9. 03. 2012 18:48:18 |
Rok said: >>>Regarding Iprom videoscroll ad it's like this, it shows to each user at most 2 times a day.<<<
So, iprom appears to you, you refresh the page twice and you have peace for the day?
jesihar said: >>>Now, if his strategy is monetizing mainly random visitors, this will cost him some regulars,...<<<
No, random visitors will see something constantly flashing and blinking, they won't know it's only twice a day and they'll see 30 EUR for blocking ads. In 99% they'll say: "Thanks! Bye!"
peter2 said: >>>Are you s.p. d.d, etc??<<<
It's s.p.! I don't know if these ads are meant for huge earnings but financial troubles can't be solved forcibly either!
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| Rok10. 03. 2012 03:10:58 |
@ljubitelj gora
The suggestion that those who regularly post quality contributions get a discount is of course sensible and I'll think about how to implement it.
@peter2, @dprapr
Probably I wasn't understood correctly. It's not users who posted something or didn't find a way themselves that are blocked, but the procedure that was posted multiple times and consequently used by many users is blocked.
The company is organized as s.p., payment is made by transfer to business account, VAT is included in the price.
@korl
I updated the statistics. Regarding the trend I'll add a picture.
@VanSims
I don't know Iprom's technology exactly, so I don't know if page refresh counts as a new display or not.
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| pegas4310. 03. 2012 09:38:54 |
Hello - you ruined a relatively nice, interesting and current page with the note about paying for no-ads. I WILL NEVER PAY FOR ANY AD IN MY LIFE AND NEITHER WILL I WATCH IT. I ACTIVATED THE BLOCK MAINLY BECAUSE OF ALL PAGES - NOT REALLY BECAUSE OF YOU - BUT NOW YOU'VE RUINED YOURSELVES TOO. Anyway, I won't look at your page anymore.
Regards Franci Perčič - Celje
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| VanSims10. 03. 2012 21:19:52 |
This I don't understand...
Me, if I like something I go there or do that or buy that,... In doing so I try to create the best conditions for enjoying that thing.
E.g. if I like the offer in some tavern but they're unfriendly I'll still go there, ignore the unfriendliness or if not tell the staff to their face. But I'll go there if the food is good! Well, or mountain huts,...
I'd understand the previous one if he couldn't block the ads. Then it would be weighing: yes and swallow the flickering and flashing (or even pay 30 EUR) or no and stay without tips, routes, info, chatting and everything done here.
But, the guy blocked ads, but won't come to this site anymore. Out of spite!
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| Trobec12. 03. 2012 21:39:13 |
Ah man where have we gotten to... what’s happening is really the shame of shames. Paying for no-ads....wtf?!?
Anyway as pegas43 wrote... I always have the block on because of various sites, not exclusively because of hribi.net. Just be aware that with such aggressive approaches you're digging your own grave.
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| skrajnik12. 03. 2012 22:17:16 |
strike while the iron is hot...
and max
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| wolphgang13. 03. 2012 08:44:59 |
I don't know what's with you people, for God's sake, do you really think that you are entitled to everything? You only know rights etc. if the ads bother you so much, just don't look at the hribi.net page anymore, don't moralize here as if the website is half yours.
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| raufnk13. 03. 2012 12:03:56 |
wolphgang: that's exactly the problem ... with such an approach the site will be used by fewer and fewer people, which is bad for everyone
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| wolphgang13. 03. 2012 14:53:51 |
raufnk
So for the good of all, please finance this or a similar website yourself.
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