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Begunjščica - Central Gully

RetardVeverca25. 01. 2012 20:12:30

I apologize if my mention of clothes bothered you or others so much, it's just observation, I didn't judge or accuse. I don't intend to argue cause no sense and not purpose of this forum, if it is for you, sorry. Safe in mountains everyone !! mežikanje

snork25. 01. 2012 23:15:44

@veverca
oh buddy...who's giving advice to whom now zmeden

damn hey, why were you so smart that you'd wear a cap on your head in mountains...really nobody should give you advice or tips, since you already have so much behind you!!!!!
just good at climbing Planica on this forum, and you're already the boss...hat off!!!!!
P.S and the front points on crampons you're shortest...by 2mm, if you remember!!!
Regards Klemen

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RetardVeverca26. 01. 2012 00:05:36

Hey kids, just so you can argue...forum is meant for other things. Go to the hills instead!

zamet26. 01. 2012 01:49:28

Stop arguing and rather tell if the ski resort is open or there's still too little snow..... zmeden

JusAvgustin26. 01. 2012 04:15:30

Zelenica hasn't been operating for a couple of years. And the reason isn't just snow. Regarding the central one: gully(only the upper part actually has gully characteristics, below it's an avalanche chute) is suitable both for ascent and quick descent from peak B, just like Y and many other routes in B. Routes in B have probably been skied more times than climbed.
Secondly, don't judge a person you don't know. It's commendable to have all the necessary winter gear with you, even if you don't need it. Better too much than too little.
Klemen: let it go, no point... You learn the most from your own experiences.
I'll report on conditions tomorrow. Regards, Juš

martin426. 01. 2012 09:17:18

Is this a discussion about current conditions eek

lp
m4

turbo26. 01. 2012 10:57:41

First off, I'm not even an A alpinist. But I'm very close to 40 years of hiking mežikanje

and some mountaineering zavijanje z očmi

and a tad less climbing zmeden

Experiences thus (at least) some and no embarrassment at all to admit that I too managed the central in Begunjščica with poles and crampons on my feet. And that I went twice through Y - left out, also in Begunjščica, just with one ice axe. Ice axe, not tool!
Not long ago I was young and foolish. Young not for a while, the rest zmeden

Clothes don't make the man and excellent tools and crampons and shells and high tech boots don't make an alpinist zavijanje z očmi

Many in old sneakers and worn gear do miracles in mountains, walls, icefalls and gullies. And many with gear worth a few grand struggle up the "normal" to M.Mojstrovka in winter nasmeh

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sla26. 01. 2012 11:09:58

A few years ago there was an excellent dog track through the Main gully in Begunjščica, so I trotted to the top without any problems.

2.1.2012 I went through with poles and crampons on feet...

Now conditions are such that you ski to the parking lot if you don't mind your thighs or have gravel shoes...

JusAvgustin26. 01. 2012 12:29:16

are those the ones on skis? velik nasmeh

sla27. 01. 2012 07:53:06

yes, sometimes skis would really come in handy so no need to slog uphill cool

robter27. 01. 2012 15:15:05

conditions in central today at -10 ideal. base hard. at top sunshine and almost no wind.

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Lisa10. 02. 2012 09:45:55

Hello.

Has anyone been these days with light snowfall in the Main (Central) gully and can tell more?
Thanks and best regards nasmeh

pikec110. 02. 2012 10:43:26

Hi
Here it is from Wednesday. Hi

http://www.hribi.net/trenutnerazmere.asp?slo=1&gorovjeid=11&id=4213

Lisa10. 02. 2012 11:14:13

Pikec1, thanks mežikanje

Parkeljc14. 02. 2012 15:14:20

If I subtract 4-5 military platoons (and they even went past the Zelenica hut towards Suho ruševje) Begunjščica was almost deserted today. Ahead of me in the central gully only five climbers and three snowboarders, later I saw no one else. At the beginning the base is quite encouraging, roughly from the middle of the scree to the gully entrance the snow mushies and breaks through, in places deeply over the knees, but at the gully entrance the base becomes hard as concrete, from here it's nicely crusty and I reach the top soon. Šentanc is classic, in the upper part barely any snow, from the first "bend" on it sinks considerably. Above the road where the scree ends, the base is hard again.

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skalar5014. 02. 2012 17:16:00

thanks "parkeljc" for fresh info...they'll go into immediate use tomorrow...

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ljubitelj gora14. 02. 2012 17:25:01

From Sunday:
Today's test of snowpack strength in the Zelenica area showed extensive areas with deep slabs. These are covered with new or windblown snow and not visible without testing, but per ECT test and Norwegian method they are very unstable.
In the mountains we recommend caution and ongoing checking of snowpack stability!!

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Sharpedge17. 02. 2012 23:35:15

Since the link to Begunjščica won't open for me, I'm curious about conditions in the central one, if anyone was there yesterday or day before. lp sharp

Janez Seliškar18. 02. 2012 12:01:15

This info came by email 16.02.2012:

"Hello.
Since there's currently high avalanche danger at Zelenica, I strongly recommend the cable car.

Best mountain regards,

Stanko Koblar

Hut warden and leader GUC Zelenica"

keber118. 02. 2012 17:08:05

Conditions in the central gully are excellent, in the steepest part ideal hard snow, crowd was quite big. Descent via Šentanc couloir in the top part due to complete wind-scouring spiced with rocks, lower nice soft snow for fast descent. But the service road to the hut is closed due to avalanche danger. But on the Begunjščica side it'd be hard to talk about any avalanche danger.