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Challenge in the mountains

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Močerad28. 02. 2013 13:19:22
I agree with what's written above. Dropping to the personal level of insults is a bit weird (not just on the forum), don't you think?
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CarpeDiem24728. 02. 2013 14:41:07
For myself I can say I have absolutely nothing against "LG", in practice the opposite has happened to me many times in life, that I started defending someone who was mocked or isolated in wider society, because I simply felt sorry for him (say I'm a bit of a good soul).velik nasmeh

In this case though I have the feeling that this person wants to prove himself on many occasions and "throw out", which has little to do with classic hiking (some of you wrote on previous pages that he always wants to be in front, does some unusual climbs or in the sense discovers new routes and don't want to go to hills or mountains with him anymore).

Anyway have fun, I don't know anyone personally nor you me, so PEACE. jezik
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ljubitelj gora28. 02. 2013 15:11:06
At least the messages referring to me I would ask the moderator to delete, let the thread go in the right direction, for settling scores there are private messages. In the FB group it's no better, there according to FACEBOOK it was and is much worse. I'm not in the group but as I heard from others there are even two threads about me, even though I know many personally.
Some will always want to be an example with their mountain ascents, none of those will write here what happened to him, even though I saw it live. How I go to the mountains is my business, where I move too, but as it seems some are envious of my tours, since until now I've kind of "led" for free. Let them hire a mountain guide and pay him. Or let them reconcile with the fact that danger lurks non-stop in the mountains and how a nice, beautiful, happy day can turn into a real nightmare or even FIGHT FOR SURVIVAL!!!
I think some still haven't got it what all happens in the mountains, the news they publish on the web misses a sea of it, how many people fall, get slightly injured and walk to the valley without rescue service!

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ljubitelj gora28. 02. 2013 15:13:24
...I know many other stories from others who told me and they are terrifying and nothing special compared to mine.
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capraibex28. 02. 2013 17:47:21
How I go to mountains is my business. Ljubitelj gora, that's just it. Keep it to yourself, no one envies you or compares with you. You need some more time than most to realize that too.
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ljubitelj gora28. 02. 2013 19:55:56
Let's continue with stories. Last year towards the end of the year I decided for an ascent to Grintovec from V konec. I started the path towards Kokrsko sedlo, at the starting point there was only one car, I thought that on such a day there would be quite a few cars and hikers there. But I met no one until the saddle. I continued the path towards the saddle, just before coming out of the beech forest I put on crampons, took the ice axe in my hands, put the helmet on my head. A bit further, before the view to the saddle opens, I spot blood, it surprised me a bit. The previous day someone had fallen and got injured. The snow was hard, on top icy, the ice axe went in only with the spike and even that was hard, the crampons gripped well, but the icy ground was worrying, if I fell there was no way I could stop, since the whole terrain from the beech forest to the top of the saddle was ice everywhere, nowhere did it penetrate, on top there were piles of dry snow, just right to step on that, crampons wouldn't grip and the fall would be bad. I fought my way to the top of the saddle, the whole time climbing very carefully for sure. At the top of the saddle I meet two more who had fought through from the other direction, to the top of Grintovec somehow normal, winter conditions, crampon steps formed, penetrable. Below the top of Grintovec I spot two more hikers who wanted to climb the gully, but unsuccessfully. When back at the saddle a heavy descent was ahead, I didn't go further, but almost the whole time backwards, the ice axe each time with the spike hammered through the ice and fought to the forest, there I sighed in relief. No one kept me company even from the saddle, if I had fallen and been seriously injured I would have been in big trouble.
Around the spike - serrated part of the ice axe.
scene of the accident1
everything in ice2
further all in ice3
here down he flew4
this one wants to go up the gully to Grintovec summit5
one picture from the top6
ice7
ice8
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pipe1. 03. 2013 15:48:58
CarpeDiem247, I completely agree with your thinking. As we can see, LG won't stop, apparently on FB it's even worse and he preferred to sit back here. I don't wish him anything bad and God forbid any accident, but LG, chill a bit and it will be better for everyone.

P.S. I'll write once more, if everyone on this forum attached their photo to their profile there would be much less bitter words.

LP and also I PEACEnasmeh
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Holcar24. 03. 2013 18:08:23
On this portal we mostly use the informal "you" even if we don't know each other and those who want can upload their photo. That's the charm, that you don't have to fear consequences (those who insult LG) when you write something up. Of course, if people know each other and someone (in this case LG) has squandered their reputation among them, then there are even more insults. But I don't believe that all those who have written something offensive about LG on this forum or elsewhere actually know him. Some just follow the crowd and litter the portal making it unreadable.
I don't know LG personally and thus don't bash him on this forum, I got the impression about him that he has experienced and survived a lot in the mountains, even if he sometimes "annoys", he still has lots of experience, probably more than many who expound here and litter the forum.
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@rekar4. 03. 2013 19:50:01
@Karahawk, best to leave him alone, he's a regular snitch, just looks where he can criticize someone and make trouble.
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JusAvgustin5. 03. 2013 08:47:45
Experience? So I don't burst from laughter!
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ljubitelj gora5. 03. 2013 10:12:08
The right address for safe visiting of hills, mountains is this:
http://www.zgvs.si/izbira.php
They are experienced and surely this is the smartest decision. Price for 2 persons/2 days is around 400 euros/person. For some winter Triglav is a challenge, big achievement, when conditions are right I'll go up, as I've done several times in winter conditions. I myself have never qualified among the experienced, but joined the terrain experts. Those I know don't participate often on the forum, but they read it normally.
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ljubitelj gora5. 03. 2013 12:13:31
Juš, tell that story when you went together to Široko peč, and one had a "podru abzajl" somehow, I don't know because I wasn't there. Or the story you confided to us at the firer over drinks, when you went to winter Mojstrovke via some Alpine route and barely made it to the top, at the top you apparently knelt down. I assume you have quite a few interesting stories. That Škrnatarica let me know that I won't go anywhere with you anymore until I'm sure I can handle the tour, so I need info on the exact route, where the problematic parts are. You know well I was challenging you on the tour, I did it provocatively on purpose, just to get you to come to me, because from your "guiding" tour it seems appropriate and say your truth. No no you watched and observed it calmly. Last year I also rejected someone, invitation to Široko peč. You can calmly delete me from the list here, prove myself, and I don't know what else you remember. But if I get, say, invitation to winter Grintovec that seems totally OK to me, also some Stenar or Triglav, summer ferratas aren't bad either. Various alpine ridge crossings keep your world, I'm not there, although I did Košutnikov turn alone - Tolsta košuta wasn't easy either, already because of danger.
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korl5. 03. 2013 12:25:39
Hey LG, you're such a likable and sympathetic guy that I'd put you right among the fireworks and Easter bunnies! So you could tell them your childish stories.
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Daaam5. 03. 2013 12:31:35
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Holcar25. 03. 2013 16:20:36
Already 10 pages filled on this forum and most space is not taken by individuals' stories, for which the forum was created, but various accusations and insultsnasmeh which I laugh atvelik nasmehvelik nasmehvelik nasmehvelik nasmeh
I also laugh at how this forum has degenerated into this, mountaineering slips and stories are less and less, everything revolves around LG and his flaws.eek Everyone has organized so nicely that the forum title is already misleading and should be changed to "LG Challenge" or something similar..zavijanje z očmi
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VesnaM5. 03. 2013 16:51:45
why does everyone stumble over LG, I've been following this forum for a while and I also see that he sometimes has statements a bit off, but I just roll my eyes and read on. I think if everyone did that, this forum would be much better. Here almost every other post is about him, you write really nasty things, and many of you don't even know him. I just know he's done many tours and also many stupidities, but we all know, we learn from mistakes =)
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Zebdi5. 03. 2013 17:03:39
bunkica, quite a long story. Basically I'm not interested in what he does in the hills as long as he does it alone. Usually I chime in if he shares advice on the forum that was potentially dangerous for others, or even offers guiding in the mountains. But I admit that lately, at least regarding that, he has calmed down a lot.
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