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Challenge in the mountains

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heinz21. 02. 2013 14:30:40
This thread, called "Challenge (of fate) in the mountains, should cover the luck and misfortune of mountain visitors, us - who are all just plain humans.
In this uncommon, dangerous world, all sorts of things can happen to a person. Because of that, no one is really a "king" for sure.. The more often someone is in this world, the more chances for something special, dangerous, weird, fateful, lucky or unlucky to happen to them..
Because of that, not a "king".
And the more experience they have, the more aware of their smallness and nature's power, the more cautious they become, and the smaller "king" they seem to themselves. They list their dumb stories, don't brag about them, but just try to share experiences with similar folks..

Meanwhile, the puffed-up feel like that priest in the confessional, to whom one day the village gigolo comes to confess, and throws first at his juicy tale: "friend, did you come to boast or confess?"...
Slovenian trait = more papal than the pope, (just because of cockiness) mežikanje
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ljubitelj gora21. 02. 2013 14:36:43
In the text I mistakenly wrote Cojzova hut, correct is Češka koča and the snowfield was under the wall of Mlinarsko sedlo. Once two of us went to Jalovec, over the notch, a bit left of the glacier a large snowfield in August, thought to cross it without gear on top, in case of fall on hard snow deadly outcome but luckily found passage under the snow. Once I go to Kepa some 3 years ago, from Belc direction, when I exit the scree and only steep ascent ahead, path goes right, but I went direct thinking path goes there, barely crawl on all 4s to top of Kepa. Descent same "tracks" as ascent, rocks rolling ahead, down on my butt, fear, through scree almost to cliff, back up and finally to marked path. Next time with brother from Dovji direction to Kepa and only at top of Kepa I look where path goes, much more left from Kepa top. Once from VDV direct to Tosc for beginner tour the slope on those rocks quite steep but luckily reached Tosc top successfully, where I just breathe a few times and go back by path...first towards Triglav, then back to Rudno polje. Once from Stog and second stog, went right side and arrived between Stog and Adam&Eva slope considerable and just below summit see jammed piton, climbing serious without any gear, if fell would say goodbye to life. My biggest mistake, story imprinted in memory, somewhere "climbing" pathless, after time slope steeper and steeper thought for moment to just let go and end life in mountains, everything spins before eyes, fear disappears for moment, barely climb up, when out of danger fear returns, think brrr what was that.
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Zebdi21. 02. 2013 14:42:08
Yeah, but now you've listed so many adventures, you could really learn something from them by now. This thread is definitely interesting and very useful - but only if we can extract something from what's written. If we keep repeating the same mistakes, the end result will be pretty bad one day...
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heinz21. 02. 2013 14:48:12
LG I see and believe you really have a lot behind you. Your experiences in terms of "overtaking yourself" can be very useful for many. Too much enthusiasm can cost us dearly!
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heinz21. 02. 2013 14:50:52
Zebdi, of course you're right.. Because of the conditions you mention, LG opened this thread..
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viharnik21. 02. 2013 14:55:36
LG, you embellish it even more in the mountains than my buddy and I did in our teenage yearsvelik nasmeh.
Regarding calling GRS, it's appropriate that if someone is really in a hopeless position with an injury and unable to descend or weather conditions (severe cold in winter, fog, wind), then they should ask for help. The worst are those without proper gear and knowledge risking ascents beyond their abilities, then burdening rescuers and thereby preventing available interventions for those who really need it badlyzavijanje z očmi.
I myself once, after a bad ankle sprain, hopped down from Jeterbenka to the valley alone. Well, there were no GSM phones then, but stillmrk pogled.
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heinz21. 02. 2013 15:04:17
I had a bad ankle sprain.., - I didn't think of GRS. I hope I'll never need it.. (who knows).zadrega
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ljubitelj gora21. 02. 2013 16:04:19
Many ascents and descents went as they should. To Veliki Oltar, Dovški križ tour OK, also to Mala Martuljška Ponca past 3 larches, that was last summer, ferrata on Cjajnik and via lojze, various difficult tours all OK, but before that thoughtlessness, challenging... also ridge traverse Košutnikov turn-Tolsta košuta OK over ridge, except for a moment I went a bit off track but quickly back to right direction. On Briceljk last late autumn didn't reach summit because of snow, if challenged could cross that snowfield but decided to leave summit for next year, so repeat this year.
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Holcar221. 02. 2013 18:17:25
"Next time with brother from Dovji direction to Kepa and only at Kepa top I looked where path goes, much more left from Kepa top."
What is that supposed to mean?!?zmedeneekzavijanje z očmivelik nasmeh
Missed that it's the path or what?
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Holcar221. 02. 2013 18:25:26
The charm of LG's comments is exactly that he condenses many short pictures from his mountaineering career into one long commentnasmeh. But then it's a bit hard, dude, because all those scenes blur together, but it's nice to know that someone has experienced at least as much as you, if not much more!
cool LG is totally fine, though I can't help laughing at comments mocking himvelik nasmeh.
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ljubitelj gora21. 02. 2013 18:27:25
Once I went alone from the Belc direction, the second time my brother and I went from the Dovjega direction, I missed the path from the Belc direction above the scree and climbed directly.
@viharnik: I didn't shit on him, but this happened to me, it happened, I imagined going to the hill/mountain and returning to the starting point without peculiarities, but it happened, a nice clear day without wind could end only with an accident. As I mentioned, I don't want to experience this anymore in the mountains and I have different approaches; for several months they have been going as they heat up. If it doesn't go then I turn around, if the time is questionable then I don't decide to reach the summit, if I decide for sunrise/sunset I prepare well.
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Holcar221. 02. 2013 18:31:56
Aha, now I get it, this has happened to me too in the Karavanke a few times already, that you think you're walking on the path but actually missed it. You probably meant that.nasmeh
You got lucky then that you found Kepo at all!
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geppo21. 02. 2013 20:41:03
LG - I have been hiking intensively in the mountains for 35 years already....
What all will you describe then when you have such mileage...???
lp
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Alfista22. 02. 2013 08:25:53
Mountain Legend
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korl22. 02. 2013 08:56:41
When Chuck Norris was once bored, in one single afternoon without water and snacks he crossed all mountains from the Fifth Gully in Storžič to Kamchatka. And then once more in the opposite direction.
In the evening he posted a 5000-page post on the forum, in which he described all dangers that he of course deliberately sought and successfully extricated himself from.
Next morning he noticed that some LG had added his pictures to all his descriptions and burst into tears. First time!!!
From his tears scientists then made a 100% cure for cancer. Cancer then recovered and is nicely recuperating in its brook.velik nasmeh
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tinky22. 02. 2013 09:07:11
LG, since you're bullshitting so much already, better go chop wood, now you have a chance.
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janna22. 02. 2013 09:19:06
How some of you brighten our day ... mežikanje
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heinz22. 02. 2013 10:19:02
This surely isn't mountaineering, but unfortunately just a typical Slovenian forum. Have a nice time and, if possible, leave at least a bit of your envy and cynicism in the valley when venturing into pristine nature!
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Katja6622. 02. 2013 10:19:14
I don't understand why it's necessary to pity.
LG has already said several times that he deliberately changed his approach to the mountains.
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Branee22. 02. 2013 10:48:42
Military love. I think he hasn't changed, because he starts stupidities at the same level, if not on a higher one. And I'm not talking here about debates on forums or FB etc.

Matej, you know well where it starts, so why are you standing at the goal if you haven't even started.
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