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| Janez5220. 04. 2021 13:53:20 |
Thanks to andi and Becar for the fun debate. Otherwise I agree more with andi but without Becar the debate wouldn't be so lively. Just continue.
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| SamoK20. 04. 2021 14:00:20 |
Debate? What debate? This isn't any debate if one side replies to everything with one sentence: "I'm right about everything, all others are wrong."
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| andi220. 04. 2021 14:15:02 |
Yes, and he put us on the ignore list it is really true that the world of unanimity is nicer and calmer no wonder he quickly insults us all and compares us to that funny political formation. I really like making fun of politics but such things make me laugh more
In a much more serious tone. The smell of the situation slowly pulls into weird spheres. As expected, chaos of orders (even experts) arises due to ever less defined options and ideas for solving the chaos. Who to test at all during outbreaks among the already vaccinated. Tests positive only in the eighth attempt with otherwise clear clinical picture (PCR!). Who can transmit the virus further and who cannot. Leadership situation that quite reminds of that from our former beloved Yugo. Waiting for the order from above, only that this order usually isn't there. If it is, it changes direction worse than a butterfly in the wind. Fingers crossed that the situation takes pity on us and we won't have pictures from Brazil. And that a calm leader appears who knows how to give people hope and perseverance in a situation that probably won't calm before 2025.
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| Becar20. 04. 2021 14:19:58 |
Hops, the guy loosened up, maybe now even thematic talking will be possible. Or at least make the best use of this intermediate interval. Andi2, if I don't reply to every one of your posts, it doesn't mean that I put you on the block list. Simply no time to reply to some nonsense without any connection to the topic.
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| andi220. 04. 2021 14:35:46 |
Among us remaining it's unfortunately so that every possibility of debate died since you appeared, Becar. And with you my nonsense, because meaningfully and logically simply can't talk with you. Unanimity of course so that text from "In much more serious tone..." onwards, for the remaining on the forum. No need to effort yourself replying to it. It's really only about extensive conspiracy theories that with Mario's departure I decided to launch on this forum. Nice regards!
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| Becar20. 04. 2021 15:15:44 |
In the Franc Salamon Trbovlje Nursing Home there has been a new outbreak of infection with the new coronavirus. 28 residents infected, 26 of them vaccinated with two doses.
So if a person gets both doses the reliability that you won't get sick is somewhere 7% 
LINK
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| VanSims20. 04. 2021 15:24:59 |
But it's only milder forms of the disease!
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| Becar20. 04. 2021 15:28:13 |
True, the probability that you won't get sick after the second dose is 7%. What a burlesque
Now the question arises, if one of these 26 dies soon (which is highly probable in a nursing home), what will they write as cause of death. I think now after vaccination all deaths will be due to old age, at least as far as I've figured out the logic of the covid mafia so far.
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| VanSims20. 04. 2021 15:57:35 |
And where did you get this 7 percent data? Link if possible. 
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| Trobec20. 04. 2021 16:07:14 |
Hm... Becar, you're making the same mistake (hope it's really a mistake and not ignorance) as the media have been doing throughout the epidemic. With them it often seems intentional (malicious).
Need to distinguish between INFECTED and SICK. Because as far as I quickly got this news, 2 or 3 got sick. Not quite clear to me why anyone would test a fully vaccinated group at all, except for study purposes. Nor have I seen how they tested. Some tests detect positive after vaccination.
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| Becar20. 04. 2021 16:41:23 |
Trobec, read the article carefully. The residents actually got sick, but they have mild symptoms at the moment. And they weren't tested for three days, of course they had symptoms. That's why your logic doesn't add up.
VanSims, sending you the link:
28 infected, of which 26 already 2x vaccinated (no data if one of the remaining two was at least 1x, which makes the burlesque even bigger)
26/28 = 0.93 or
2/28 = 0.07
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| SamoK20. 04. 2021 16:43:39 |
So, if I understand correctly, the vaccine is worthless, because people get mild symptoms after it when they finally get infected, instead of dying?
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| Becar20. 04. 2021 16:47:41 |
The vaccine is worthless 1. because it's experimental, 2. because Pfizer isn't even a vaccine but gene therapy registered as a vaccine (otherwise registration wouldn't be possible) and 3. because they said it's 70%-96% reliable. I don't know what percentage they gave then so that a person can still get seriously ill despite it. But if you consider that the vaccine instead of say 80% reliable is 8%, you can roughly estimate how much the chance increases that a person despite vaccination gets a severe course. About 10x more than announced, right?
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| SamoK20. 04. 2021 16:50:02 |
So it's better to get seriously ill than to get vaccinated and get mildly ill, just so we're right!
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| Becar20. 04. 2021 16:52:36 |
For example. It's mandatory not to vaccinate, because covid-19 has the same mortality as flu, except that flu vaccines are well tested (and yet a huge number of doctors don't want to get it - another story), but for covid-19 these are vaccines without necessary testing, i.e. experimental.
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| Becar20. 04. 2021 16:58:59 |
Suppose, hypothetically, there's something really wrong with the vaccines because they haven't been tested enough. And that the covid mafia succeeds in vaccinating most of the world's population, after a few years people start dying en masse from some long-term unpredictable consequence. Do we realize enough that this could mean the end of civilization?
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| SamoK20. 04. 2021 17:04:01 |
Do you harvest and prepare all your food yourself from seeds you grew yourself, drink only water from a spring on your land, but when you get on a bus or plane, do you demand a certificate of multi-year testing?
If you're that precise, kudos. But if you're only so picky now, then you're
1. stupid or
2. scared or
3. sickeningly craving public attention or
4. all three.
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| Becar20. 04. 2021 17:11:29 |
I no longer respond to sick comments.
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| dprapr20. 04. 2021 17:18:25 |
Becar, didn't you go for testing yesterday due to a change in business plans? Otherwise you were supposed to go today.
Given that you're active on the forum all day today, you probably got tested for this commenting. And who told you that you have to get tested for that?
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| Becar20. 04. 2021 17:29:17 |
To all who WANTED to see, I showed statistics a while ago that
THERE WAS NO INCREASED MORTALITY IN THE LARGEST EUROPEAN COUNTRIES IN 2020. And no, it didn't happen because of Janša's measures.
This tells everything to people with common sense. The rest of the insults from then on are just proof of the despair into which the covid mafia has pushed you.
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