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Becar13. 07. 2021 20:44:12
I see you have the "Primoz" strain. You two will have to apologize a lot more, just be patient a bit.

And let's analyze your controversial sentence:

"With these 'Nuremberg trials' you are already grotesque, not to say offensive to all the victims for whom they were introduced."

Meaning offensive to whom or what. To the victims for whom they were introduced. For whom or what were they introduced? FOR CRIMINALS is the right answer, unfortunately the victims could no longer be revived. You understand what I'm telling you and I've known for a long time what issues you sympathize with, you were read a long time ago, so don't play dumb now.
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jax13. 07. 2021 20:47:08
@vansims
First, don't mix me with antivaxxers. I got vaccinated already in January. That's all.
Secondly - not enough infected or vaccinated? Let's be real. Vaccination rate is around 40 percent, infection rate at least 30. Roughly three quarters of the population have some form of immunity. If that's not enough, it never will be. After all, we can see what's happening these days. We have some quasi spread of infections that doesn't reflect anywhere. No pressure on the health system, no rise in mortality. Statistical epidemic. But this too suits Janez, Janez, Aleš and the ladies for their apocalyptic fantasies. Which are intended exactly for that - perpetuating the state we have. Therefore - surely this won't last forever. And surely vaccination will help slow the epidemic. But our current clique of decision-makers has taken such an absolutist and apocalyptic position that normality probably won't come until we remove them from power.
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VanSims13. 07. 2021 21:02:45
Becar: Samo has already explained to you above, I explained to you and after all this you still don't get it. Really no help for you.

Otherwise, you successfully use the recipe of your political bots: disqualification, liquidation,

Where was I read? Forum, page, post number on page plus exact words. And where is that one with ZS? Probably only in your head like all your accusations about my stance on the holocaust, which you just pulled out of nothing. According to the recipe of your political bots.

@jax; "After all we can see what's happening these days. We have some quasi spread of infections that doesn't reflect anywhere. No pressure on health system, no mortality growth. Statistical epidemic."

Potrč last September: "look, currently only 10 hospitalized, one dead in August."
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Becar13. 07. 2021 21:06:27
Van, even your Kurz, since you like Austria so much, will leave us unvaccinated in peace, if you've read anything. Will you follow suit, since you like Austria so much?

Live and let live. That's what you're missing, you'll have to learn that. Once again. Get vaccinated with experimental vaccines as much as you want, you have the right, I'm not stopping you, you're a free person. But don't convince the rest of us and respect our decision, otherwise it's harassment. If you add in the style of the biggest fascist on this forum that we are to blame for future deaths of you who got vaccinated, then that's also insulting. And add to that insulting political affiliation, although I'm not affiliated with any party and we get quite a nice pušeljc or better said ikebana.
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jax13. 07. 2021 21:15:07
@jax; "In the end, we can see what's happening these days. We have some quasi spread of infections that doesn't reflect anywhere. No pressure on the health system, no rise in mortality. Statistical epidemic."

Potrč last September: "look, currently only 10 hospitalized, one single dead in August."

Last September we had no vaccination rate and very low infection rate. Why such a selective approach to facts?
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MitjaBelak13. 07. 2021 21:15:59
But our current clique of decision-makers has taken such an absolutist and apocalyptic position that normality probably won't be possible until we remove them from power. - jax, I sign, we're probably even in the majority united around this outmaneuvering of the government both sides, whether vaccinated or not. Only with united forces are we strong; if it's anything different then, even I'm slowly starting to doubt. After 16 months it's high time that we as a nation slowly unite, not shit on each other and insult each other. Mostly both sides know where the problem is that stinks very much, and increasingly globally stinks. The problem is made by very few rulers who need to have the momentum of their arrogance taken away, not given wind in their sails by us dividing ourselves. And good luck to both.
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SamoK13. 07. 2021 21:21:56
>Mostly both sides know where the problem is

Well, another wise guy has spoken who thinks he knows everything.
Please, tell me too, I obviously don't belong to the "both" who know what the problem is.
I suspect the problem is that humanity is stupid. Did I hit it right?
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Becar13. 07. 2021 21:29:12
Van, one more question. Will you now go to the Austrians for via ferratas? Namely, there everything will be relaxed now. What if someone endangers your health? I'm asking you seriously!
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VanSims13. 07. 2021 21:47:15
Becar: Let live, yeah that's missing you antivaxxers. And no one said that unvaccinated are to blame for deaths of vaccinated. How so perhaps, because vaccines aren't 100% either, but you're to blame for deaths e.g. of those who couldn't vaccinate for health reasons. And also for deaths of those who didn't vaccinate because of antivax propaganda and fears you're sowing about vaccinations.

But those who decided not to vaccinate just by their own will are to blame themselves.

As for insulting, I think you'll have to clean in front of your own doorstep first. You're looking for a speck in another's eye, but don't see the beam in your own.

jax: also sev is now much more contagious, if already about selective facts. But I agree that last fall and winter probably won't repeat. That's why such harsh measures won't be needed. As said, the thing will slowly go to normal over some two three seasons.

I think Samo quite well got the essence of the problem mežikanje
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Becar13. 07. 2021 21:56:04
Van, apologize, I'm not any antivaxer. I'm just against experimental vaccines, for the first time in my life now.

But now you've taken a position where you don't answer uncomfortable questions? Once again. Will you go to Austria? Go up there with Primož as special envoys and tell them what a mess they've made now and how many deaths they've caused with it! For Kurz it's best you suggest lobotomy, just like the first fascist suggested for all of us like-minded.
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VanSims13. 07. 2021 22:09:35
Obviously reading also causes you problems: to your question I indirectly answered with the second sentence of the previous post. And you obviously have short memory too, since I reported from (still) unvaccinated Austria a week or so ago, both of you.

Ah, otherwise we've already established that with you the problem is logical reasoning.

But I apologize, you're just a covid antivaxer.
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Becar13. 07. 2021 22:14:37
That's right. Well look, now you finally know what I am. Or even better said covid anti-experiment vaxxer. There, now we know.
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jax13. 07. 2021 22:16:42
No. What bothers me a little is that "such harsh measures won't be needed". In a situation where 75% of people are already more or less protected, the remaining 25% can get vaccinated practically the same moment if interested, no measures should be needed at all, except more active promotion of vaccination (also on the ground) among the few still unprotected vulnerable groups. Life must return to normal, possible problems that might arise in the fall will be solved as they come. If a couple of infections per day is enough for us to walk around with muzzles, then it's clear that the rulers want it to always be like that.
And yes, I think that in Europe this mentality of return to normal and solving problems when and if they appear is slowly starting to prevail. In England, and of course in Austria. But we have a clique in power that can't reconcile with that. Janša and Hojs are fascistoids anyway, who will never voluntarily give up oppressing the people, Poklukar and Logarjeva are mainly religious fanatics who find themselves in the Catholic vision of earthly suffering, for which we will be rewarded in the other world. And of course such a combination of rulers is the one that will reluctantly admit the mistake of their own approach, although it's becoming clearer to them elsewhere in Europe.
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Becar13. 07. 2021 22:23:53
No, just watching 24 hours evening. Mateja Logar and Darja Zgonc. Darja relaxed without mask, Mateja Logar (vaccinated) with mask. Why on earth does she wear a mask. Analysis of covid fanatics please.

Mateja is already announcing:
Possibility we go from PCT condition to PC, meaning complete discrimination of those who test and follow all (otherwise in my opinion senseless) measures. Meanwhile Austrians think about complete relaxation, we are more and more radical.

Man, if this isn't a sign of how they like to fuck the people.......
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zavest13. 07. 2021 22:48:00
Comparing covid-lockdown measures with Nazi crimes can only come from someone who in life has never even come close to seeing war and associated suffering, let alone experienced it. And I thought we'd hit bottom with statements about forced lobotomy of unvaccinated...

The same person meanwhile boasts about covid war profiteering and praises own good memory, which however seems strongly selective or porous, just like logical reasoning ability.
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Becar13. 07. 2021 22:59:05
Jurček, you are too milky to recognize in time the signs leading to war. Covid mafia experiences orgasms when curtailing people's freedom. When it blows up, then to mommy under the wing...
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zavest13. 07. 2021 23:14:54
Living proof that it's better to be milky than to age like milk and be sour for the rest of life mežikanje And, better to mommy than to grandma mežikanje

That covid mafia experiences such long orgasms like pigs when curtailing freedom of course no doubt...
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JUNAJUNA14. 07. 2021 00:17:32
I want you to know what's happening.

From 30.6.2021 to today 14.7.2021 me and child on Kos Island (Psalidi) in Greece. In this time we walked quite a bit. Visited Kos town three times. No one anywhere. Streets empty unlike 2019 when we were also on Kos Island. Only one hotel Ramira beach operating all others closed!!! Agency rep informs me that Kos Island on orange list and testing needed on return to Slovenia. Kos Island on orange list??? No one anywhere, handful of people. Called NIJZ and clearly told them IT'S ALL ONE BIG LIE!!! On other side employee completely silent. Completely unacceptable what's happening!!!
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pantani114. 07. 2021 07:15:36
Typical comment of vaccinated with room temperature IQ:


"2x vaccinated with Astra Zeneca. 5G chip already shows me lefty bebčki from afar. If/when I get sick I'll get sick at least with awareness that I did everything possible not to harm any neighbor, relative, friend, acquaintance... But it kinda tempts me to go near lefty idiots if I get sick. Maybe some bebo gets infected and spreads among theirs. Once cowboys said- only dead Indian is good Indian."
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Becar14. 07. 2021 08:03:50
Primoza: Where did they put 30000 locals?

Answer: Died of covid, now waiting truckload of A4 paper for death certificates. For counter they'll load corpses with forklift to burn them in front of hospital cuz morgues running out of space. Smoke already visible from ISS. On neighboring island started using toilet paper. 1 sheet - 1 death cert. Just reporting group of people choking on street. Pardon, now found out vomiting from hangover.
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