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| pantani120. 11. 2021 18:17:04 |
I suggest we copy countries that handled the epidemic best. Say Florida.
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| VanSims20. 11. 2021 20:11:46 |
"Slovenes quiet and submissive like for the last 30 years and then whine they have 400 eur pensions and wait 5 years for surgery."
Well, Slovenes' problems are much bigger than one prick with a needle in the arm and some measures that with a bit of will could easily be followed. But protesting exactly against that, not against real problems you cite.
Any more proof protests are politically motivated? Sand in the eyes so real problems aren't seen.
"I suggest we copy countries that handled the epidemic best. Say Florida."
Best some African or Central Asian, there practically no measures, or the few there are, no one follows. Paradise, compared to the local 'dictatorship' because of one cold.
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| Vincenc5220. 11. 2021 21:10:56 |
pantani1 becar Oh, in Italy without fascists, you made me laugh You think external fascists will free us, don't bullshit me, but that too is possible
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| VanSims20. 11. 2021 21:16:57 |
"Van, there's no help for you, you're comparing the war on the Balkans with covid?!!!"
Don't you realize your actions? You started the comparison!
"If JJ told you to jump off the balcony on your head, I'm 100%, you'd do it too!!!"
What does that have to do with it? Or rather, you can see who's paying you.
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| Becar20. 11. 2021 21:18:29 |
India 28% vaccination rate, covid gone.
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| pantani120. 11. 2021 21:22:11 |
All we need is solely and exclusively condition "T". Condition "T" is the one with which we show humanity and protect other people. With condition "C" we only care for our own ass... And exactly those who get vaccinated and then ignorantly walk around without masks spread the epidemic. I call these people "SUPER SPREADERS". Take a look in shopping centers... Time to think a bit... You SDS have set up the whole vaccination campaign wrong. You have no clue and are only good for plowing the field.
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| Vincenc5220. 11. 2021 22:09:32 |
pantani1 now you're already pissed off. Look at the protests against PCT and against the government 3/4 of the people without masks, packed close together. And how do you know that vaccinated people walk around without masks. Stop bullshitting
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| Becar20. 11. 2021 22:30:12 |
"With condition "C" we only care for our own ass... "
Not even that. 2-3 months after AZ and Janssen dose protection ends, with Pfizer and Moderna around 200-250 days. I'm not talking about reduced protection, but ZERO protection. That's what the latest scientific studies published in the Journal showed (I already gave the link).
Van has been unprotected for months already and with his C paper endangers himself and everyone else  That's why he's very uncomfortable when I ask him when he'll get the booster. He's not stupid, he knows well he only has the paper left. That's why he refers to some year-old documents. It's like still believing vaccines protect against infection or Pfizer protects 95%. Or that you only need one shot. Or believing Bojana back then that they are not experimental vaccines Van, time to keep up with the times. You in your direction, me in mine 
At the same time we must realize that right now we actually have maybe 100,000 to 200,000 vaccinated and say protected people, that's recipients of the 3rd dose and some where previous protection isn't complete zero yet. All other C-holders completely unprotected and untested walking around. Now in companies wherever I go on sick leave almost exclusively vaccinated. Sadly that's the truth, even if painful for some. Why it's like that, don't ask me, let your fascist STOKA tell you!
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| SamoK20. 11. 2021 23:07:23 |
>That's what the latest scientific studies published in the Journal showed
... world-renowned scientific journal.
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| VanSims21. 11. 2021 07:24:01 |
Becar: once again, about 5-6 pages back I told you exactly when I'll get vaccinated again. And you keep pushing yours.
Pantani: how much cost would that be if everyone had to (as that Pretnar suggests) test three times a week or condition T applies. Not rapid, but expensive PCR, otherwise no sense. More than we spend now treating patients! Plus physically impossible (staff, space, labs,...). All two million people! What protests that would be! Already now total chaos when kids have to self-test.
A few pages back you said we'd solve it with quarantine for all positives. Yes, but not like here where quarantine is only on paper, you do what you want, but like in Taiwan and Korea. Strict control via phone and you can't move anywhere but home. But then they'd scream again how that's fascism.
Even 2-3 week lockdown, which that Pretnar says would solve it, like here wouldn't. Like in China with army on streets yes. If we want that, ok. Not to mention economic consequences,...
In short, that Pretnar you pasted is expert in his field (btw he was my bio prof in high school) no doubt. In theory all right. But unfortunately not sociologist, financier and economist or lacks broader view, what social, financial and economic consequences it would cause or forgets we're not Asia but selfish self-deluded Europe where everyone looks only to own benefit and not willing to give up piece of comfort for others.
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| Becar21. 11. 2021 07:47:48 |
After a long time I agree with Van in one sentence, namely that there would be big chaos if we tested the vaccinated.
Namely most got vaccinated so they don't have to test for work. Others for the sea or trip to Norway. Some elderly out of fear.
Over the year we talked a bit in testing queues you know. That's why these are live data from the field
And what various psychologists on TV now try to brainwash, is actually the opposite. The vast majority of Slovenes do not support vaccination. Both unvaccinated and vaccinated. The rest are negligible minority and that will bury them in their deranged intentions at the end.
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| VanSims21. 11. 2021 09:07:51 |
Among both there would be chaos, no worries, vaccinated and unvaccinated. Maybe the vaccinated would then join the protests too, that would be
Older people got vaccinated justifiably for their own safety. By the way, that vaccines work is seen precisely in nursing homes, where there are practically no more outbreaks. Among the younger ones, many really got vaccinated for what you say. Mainly for Croatia, I don't know Norway maybe someone, anyway for abroad, now with PCT and also because of it. But it doesn't matter why, not even what percent got vaccinated just because of that, important that they did!
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| pantani121. 11. 2021 09:43:11 |
While the elite laughs and has fun, children have to wear masks despite testing... Well the photo says it all!!!
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| Becar21. 11. 2021 10:56:02 |
"By the way, that vaccines work is seen precisely in nursing homes, where there are practically no more outbreaks."
What a lie!
That's exactly where it's most visible that vaccines don't work. For starters, visit DSO Logatec and make an appointment with the director. Last year 4 infections and 0 deaths, this year all infected and 4 deaths. Then you can continue to DSO Trbovlje, all fully vaccinated, all infected, they don't give data on deaths outward. And continue the tour a bit around the homes. Everything from DSO that made it to the media this year is catastrophic.
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| Becar21. 11. 2021 11:58:41 |
Once a liar, always a liar.
That's how I would describe Bojana's statement yesterday that in the petition against the Initiative of Slovenian Doctors they collected 1500 signatures of doctors in 12 hours.
Everyone can check the truth themselves on the ZZS website. And it is as follows. 22 first-signer doctors stood against 60 doctors of the Initiative. But the petition was signed by butchers, hairdressers, cooks, in short everyone who had a minute. Could be me or you too.
What will be the next lie. Let's be surprised. Meaning trust proven liars in leading positions no. Water is obviously already running down their throats. That's why the plane for 73 million EUR? Will they cram everyone in at once?
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| Becar21. 11. 2021 14:17:01 |
What can't be checked, for Logatec it was on TV, for Trbovlje on the radio. Don't bullshit. If you missed it, call there and ask, as I already suggested.
Regarding ZZS, as I said, everyone should look at that open petition themselves and see who all signed there. You'll see right away who is lying.
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| VanSims21. 11. 2021 18:02:28 |
That's two DSOs. Any more? Two against all full last year, not much.
On ZZS it says 1500 signatures, no mention of any butchers, hairdressers, ... there. Where was that written?
It is true that the petition is something or it shows they are not serious. Take away licenses and amen.
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