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zavest21. 11. 2021 19:13:22
> Once a liar, always a liar.
True. Have you in a good year of the epidemic already managed to master positive and negative numbers? Not long ago distinguishing between the signs plus and minus was an insurmountable obstacle for you.

Just like for example the simple calculation 2021-2019, the result of which indicates the lag in years in population projections for the current year mežikanje
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gely21. 11. 2021 21:13:28
When certain things don't come to the public here....
elsewhere they warn

Vaccination against covid is dangerous like no other!

As the World Health Organization emphasizes regarding side effects of vaccines and medicines, experimental Covid vaccines seem more dangerous than any other. This must not remain a secret! But politics and mainstream media don't care.
Every medicine or vaccine can cause adverse drug reactions (ADR). That's completely normal. And usually the benefits outweigh the possible harm. Anything else wouldn't make sense. Right? But new data from the World Health Organization (WHO) at least raise strong doubts about the benefits of the experimental Covid vaccine.
What about experimental Covid vaccines? That is, those that don't protect against SARS-CoV-2 infection and don't prevent virus spread either. There WHO also collected data. Result: 2,457,386 reported cases of side effects. Since 2020!


https://institut-trivium.org/who-bestaetigt-offiziell/
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kekec6221. 11. 2021 22:59:05
Gley: If you look at the long list of side effects in such a short time with experimental Covid vaccines, it also becomes clear that with deaths because of it doesn't look much better. We're also talking about long-term consequences of death, like myocarditis. Main side effect of mRNA vaccine. Approximately 40 percent of cases die from consequences in ten years. That means these cases are not even included in data on deaths due to vaccination. If ever.

How can someone know ten years ahead if the vaccine exists one year, isn't that misleading???
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gely22. 11. 2021 07:04:20
kekec62: I give everyone free rein to think..... and I wouldn't say it's misleading since our own also talk about heart muscle inflammation (myocarditis) and side effects, but those get silenced quickly, everyone can interpret it their own way. And as we all know also fatal victims.
Some will claim those doctors are ignoramuses, others will claim or say thanks for the info and go research what other scientists say. A huge number of them have the same opinion.
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pantani122. 11. 2021 07:25:24
If vaccine exists only 1st year,then this vaccine is experimental and shouldn't be used BASTA!!! All who got vaccinated,you are actually test subjects... eek
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kekec6222. 11. 2021 07:36:38
Let someone from anti-vaxxers say, how then protect people from severe course and death, relieve healthcare and economy?
Currently, if you don't get sick with COVID, you can't get to doctor and how many people will die because of that. I myself had checkup at specialist under emergency and waited a month and a half to get my turn and then another three weeks to receive report. In this time, either die or recover and for all these problems, COVID supposed to be guilty.
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pantani122. 11. 2021 08:14:50
Something like that... velik nasmehvelik nasmehvelik nasmeh
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Becar22. 11. 2021 08:50:13
Kekec, although I'm not anti-vaxxer, I'll give my proposal. If experimental vaccines are available, let mainly the elderly get vaccinated, but VOLUNTARILY. Leave others completely alone. If introducing greenpass, then exclusively on the T condition, which as we see now is the only one still somewhat reliable.

Yesterday night they took a relative in his 60s, 3x vaccinated, to the UKC emergency. During sleep he vomited blood; they found bursting vessels in the lungs due to embolism. Before that, never any problems. Oh right, vaccination isn't mandatory, huh. What all associated diseases they will find, I'm really curious.
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zavest22. 11. 2021 09:32:29
Today I ordered vaccination, or however mežikanje
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VanSims22. 11. 2021 09:46:18
Here, kekec threw you the gauntlet: How to solve the covid problem?

Vaccination no, OK. Mass testing three times a week of all two million as Pretnar suggests, I already said why not. Lockdown, yes but only effective would be with army on the street. Everything else is, at least in Slovenia, larifari. Quarantine for positives? We see how it's implemented here or just on paper, if it were like in Taiwan i.e. direct control via phone and strict penalties for violation, then again 'human rights' in question. PCT, we know how it's observed, physically impossible to monitor everything and employ so many people for checking or cost-wise it doesn't pay especially for small firms. Same if only PC, or on the other hand only T, as some suggest. App 'Stay healthy' is useless if no mandatory registration for all infected and of course oversight that they are connected to the network, that's again 'violation of human rights'.

So how? Those who think it's just a cold and all the hospital situation is fabricated, please don't respond.
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Becar22. 11. 2021 10:13:46
Van, I don't know where you live, well actually I do, but here without PCT no entry absolutely nowhere except grocery stores. And without personal neither.
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VanSims22. 11. 2021 11:38:27
Becar, officially no. Unofficially we know that they check it or not, fake certificates are used, students and employees can't do anything to one without cert (only guard can throw out), ... In short, the Slovenian way. I don't know where you live that you don't know that. nasmeh
I once forgot cert at home but was still served, although she asked for it.

It might contribute something, but to solve the covid problem this way is far from it.
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pantani122. 11. 2021 13:32:44
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pantani122. 11. 2021 14:09:34
Vaccine benefits Extensive clinical trials have shown that the Comirnaty vaccine is effective in preventing COVID-19 in people aged 16 years and older. In people who had two doses of Comirnaty, there were approximately 95 percent fewer chances of getting COVID-19 than in people who did not receive the vaccine. It was equally effective in people over 65 years and also in people with stable pre-existing medical conditions. Protection against COVID-19 starts approximately from 2 to 3 weeks after the first dose. While one dose can provide some protection, it may be only short-term. Two doses will optimally protect. No vaccine is 100 percent effective, so it is possible that you can still get sick with COVID-19 after vaccination. We do not know how long the protection from Comirnaty will last. We will learn more about it over time. Currently we do not know how effective COVID-19 vaccines are in preventing the spread of the virus. This means that SARS-CoV-2 can still infect a vaccinated person. Even if they have no symptoms or they are only mild, they could still transmit the infection to others. Therefore it is important to continue with other preventive measures, such as: • physical distancing • hand washing • wearing a face mask • testing for COVID-19 and quarantine/isolation, as required by your country/territory. If you have been vaccinated with two doses of Comirnaty vaccine, you still have to test for COVID-19, in case you have symptoms that meet the criteria for testing according to local health authorities (e.g. elevated body temperature, cough, sore throat). Now read this, vaxxers, if the experts haven't told you already!!!
Also, what our dear "experts" didn't tell us, that Pfizer wrote in the official document that it is necessary to check the file of everyone who wants to get vaccinated of course and advise them if they are even suitable for vaccination which is not done here, but they know how to slip you a paper that you voluntarily got vaccinated!
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pantani122. 11. 2021 14:20:34
Those who got vaccinated think that the vaccine doesn't help just for covid, but also extends life expectancy by 20 years. They've well washed your brains velik nasmehvelik nasmehvelik nasmeh
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pantani122. 11. 2021 14:37:12
Copied:
WHEN THEY ASK FOR THE CERTIFICATE - QR CODE

From a police friend:
»Nothing with that. Completely illegal and very easy to solve. No one should ask you about health data.
Not the innkeeper, not municipal militiamen, not sanitary inspector, nor regular police. You are not obliged to show certificates to anyone. You can show them your personal ID (municipal and regular inspectors), so if they have authorization to access the database where your personal health data is, let them check themselves what interests them via ID number.
And since they are not authorized, they will see "stop", because you didn't give your doctor special written consent to make your data available to third parties. If your health data is improperly exposed somewhere and third parties have access to it, file a lawsuit with your chosen doctor and the Health Center where you have your card.
The one harassing you because of some certificates commits the criminal offense of persecution. In this case call the regular police, who is obliged to take a statement from the victim and chase municipal and sanitary staff out of the premises and write reports to them.
If someone targets citizens regarding access to confidential health data, they need to narrow them in the system 1:1.
The innkeeper is not obliged to check the health status and personal data of any of his guests, and it is also a criminal offense to induce that to a criminal offense, in this case prosecution follows. In this case rescuers, municipal and regular police instruct innkeepers.
The innkeeper can easily file a lawsuit against anyone like municipal and sanitary and regular police. On-site payments are off, because not legal and waived in court (no legal basis).

Note for members of the Ministry of the Interior:
Especially be careful that you from regular police don't get involved, because you won't recover the costs of lawsuits that citizens and innkeepers will file against you, because no one needs to sue the ministry of interior, but the person acting illegally.
If your superior orders you to act in the manner described in the article of the criminal offense of persecution, it is your legal duty to refuse. In addition to this criminal offense it is a violation of the Prohibition of Discrimination Act, Patient Protection Act, Biomedicine and Ethics Convention, RS Constitution and Council of Europe Resolution of January 27, 2021 and many other regulations at the level of laws and international conventions.
Decree, order (instruction), conclusion, decision, solution, special collective agreement, all these are sub-legal acts that are null if they contradict higher legal acts. By acting according to unlawful acts criminal offenses and violations of higher regulations are also committed. Don't play, there is not little money for those lawsuits.
I would especially add that this is purely a criminal offense of violation of equality under the Criminal Code RS.

I think I couldn't explain it simpler. Hope it's helpful to you.

Best regards from an MNZ employee who still does curves, how much longer, I don't know ...
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VanSims22. 11. 2021 14:43:11
"Vaccine benefits ..."
pantani what you wrote in this post, that's all known. At least to me, well ...

"Those who got vaccinated think ..."
What you wrote in this post though is similar to what Becar posted up there about some acquaintance who thought she'd be protected from all viruses with the vaccine.

Look, that's not a result of 'brainwashing' (because no one in authority claimed that) but simply the fact that some are simply stupid. And that both vaccinated and unvaccinated.

"WHEN THEY ASK FOR THE CERTIFICATE - QR CODE"
If they just scan the code, in principle they shouldn't know anything else than that you meet PCT, but not the reason either. Now if you don't bother loading it on your phone, then you just have to show the paper. But everyone can avoid insight into their 'health data'.

I don't have the code on my phone anyway and show paper. I don't care if some fool there in front of the store knows I'm vaccinated. If you're recovered, the thing might be more sensitive for someone, although it wouldn't bother me either.
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Becar22. 11. 2021 17:47:06
Sometimes one simple picture says more than a thousand words. When all alarms should ring, some still live in the world of increasingly severe new variants zavijanje z očmi
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pantani122. 11. 2021 18:04:02
Also; In Denmark more than 90% of the population is vaccinated and they are closing the country... 2 months ago they were boasting around the whole world how they go to concerts without masks.
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