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| pantani122. 11. 2021 20:12:42 |
The government is itself to blame for losing the people's trust. If they led the country as it should, without misleading, lies and other shit, many more people would get vaccinated and follow measures. They succeeded in the opposite, division of the nation, confirm measures that make no sense, because of measures people are nervous etc etc. I think that in exactly such situations as corona, it actually shows what kind of government leads the country and how capable they really are. Unfortunately it turned out we have the worst government in the whole Europe.
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| zavest22. 11. 2021 20:34:02 |
It doesn't hold. A nice example is New Zealand, where people initially had high trust in the government and expert management of the epidemic, now anti-vaxxers have just crawled out with demonstrations and propaganda 
Life finds a way. Stupidity also 
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| Becar22. 11. 2021 20:50:46 |
I've said it many times already, we live in a time of miracles. Covid disappeared in Japan, in the Netherlands they're already shooting because of covid. Both countries are equally vaccinated. What does this tell us? A lot to me, but I believe nothing to many
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| zavest22. 11. 2021 20:59:23 |
Pha Japanese and Dutch amateurs, because North Korea and Turkmenistan don't have covid at all 
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| Becar22. 11. 2021 21:30:36 |
And you know what's the funniest? That they probably really don't have it or have it under the name COLD-19
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| VanSims23. 11. 2021 07:18:12 |
pantani: Whoever doesn't respect the measures and doesn't get vaccinated just because the government is supposed to be this or that is stupid. Yes, there are some stupid ones too. But if we're pointing fingers, we can also partially at the government for inappropriate communication and a failed vaccination campaign. The blame is also partly on you antivaxxers.
The main blame is mentality though. If you think a bit, you see that in countries that supposedly have better governments (if ours is the worst) the vaccination rate is sometimes even worse. Simply, the mental backwardness of post-socialist Eastern Europe is visible here.
Becar: this article also presents a scientific thesis why this happened in Japan. It's just a thesis for now. The problem is that you antivaxxers can bleat whatever you want without sources, evidence, but science has to prove and justify everything, otherwise a thesis is just a theory.
"That they probably really don't have it or have it under the name COLD-19 wink"
As you like, now suddenly it's just a cold again.
Why did the beloved leader then flee to the North Korean mountains from it? No worries, they have numbers there too, we just don't learn anything or they heavily manipulate the statistics.
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| starejša23. 11. 2021 07:45:08 |
>pantani1: The government is itself to blame for losing the people's trust. If they led the country properly, without misleading, lies and other crap, many more people would get vaccinated and follow the measures.
That's why we can actually be grateful to it in the long run, as its rudeness and attempts at coercion protected us from the experiment whose long-term consequences none of us knows. They will only show up later...
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| Becar23. 11. 2021 09:41:36 |
Van, as completely unprotected, socialist, Eastern European, ignoring expert recommendations, we ANTIVAXERS warmly welcome you to our circle
Yes, now when simple and indisputable facts say that vaccines are one big bluff, your mouth is full of various theories, theses etc.
One advice. You're looking at the leaves of the tree, but not seeing the forest around you.
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| pantani123. 11. 2021 11:29:36 |
In November, there's no shortage of nonsense and comic actions by our experts:
First we had the "covid actress" who was nicely made up exhaling on the hospital bed and asking for more oxygen, the actress btw. works at POP TV
Then we had tears from the chief market inspector Martina Gašperlin, who was tearful and disappointed that no one gives a fuck about that 5% PCT, is there anything strange here? She already forgot how they FORCEDLY closed practically everything overnight, some cried then too.
Then appeared one of the greatest experts in the world, who always has the right solution, the one and only mister Krek. Again he had an excellent speech but again his tongue was faster than his brain, so he let slip a bunch of comic thoughts again, like: "we are your doctors, trust us", "don't die unnecessarily". Miran cried a few days later too, because he feels very threatened and is afraid for his family... I also feel like crying sometimes, when I'm in line at the store and an old lady who worked 40+ years for capitalists ends up in front of me, and doesn't have enough money to pay the full "facemask". Mr. Krek, if you don't feel capable and strong enough to tame this invisible enemy, just resign. No one can force you to do this job, or can they? (The egg has young obviously)
Beović couldn't stay quiet again, continued with her arrogance. Without shame and sense she called to avoid the unvaccinated and those who don't test.
JJ d.o.o. continues to squander (with borrowed money, since we no longer have our own). New very important investment is a new plane.
Minister Kuštečeva obviously got fed up to the end and this time she came up with the idea that in schools only tested pupils will be entitled to meals.
We have a bit more than a week of November left, followed by merry December. Let nothing surprise you.
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| starejša23. 11. 2021 12:21:21 |
Today's freedom is unfreedom. Voluntary enslavement of people who applaud their own enslavement and are not ashamed of this applause. Without any illusion of a golden past, we can say that all our actually enslaved ancestors would despise us, the slaves of modern absurdities, let alone those who fought for their freedom.
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| kekec6223. 11. 2021 15:42:40 |
Starejša: when you talk about slavery, you forgot that slavery didn't start with Covid, but much earlier. Young families, if they want to get an apartment, have to get indebted for 30 years and then they are bound to just nod to the bosses so they don't lose their job.
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| Becar23. 11. 2021 16:40:44 |
Just reading that at OŠ Brežice students who came without a mask to the cafeteria on the instructions of the deputy principal were left without lunch.
I'm interested if this is normal for anyone here on the forum. Thanks for the answer.
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| turbo23. 11. 2021 17:40:39 |
The vaccinated can rightly be afraid, because they didn't get even close to what was promised to them in the spring (protection against Covid or illness). With a bit of reading between the lines, they can also rightly worry about what will happen in a few years (blood clots, heart failures, etc.). Then it will be hard to prove that the vaccination years ago was to blame for the disease, even today it's almost impossible. The unvaccinated can worry whether they are among those few percent that the disease will hit hard and they will barely manage it or God forbid not at all. The fact is that new findings about the vaccine appear monthly, how and how long it actually provides protection, possible short-term and long-term consequences. If you look at the disease as a disease, in past times you went to the doctor, then to the specialist and then they presented you with the best and worst course of the disease and possible treatments. Just in case you went for a second opinion and then decided based on facts and recommendations. Today with Covid regarding facts and recommendations there's such fog (worldwide, to avoid misunderstanding), that on a daily basis it's harder and harder to decide what you think about the whole thing, let alone what you should do based on all the (un)known facts. The basis is trust between doctor and patient and today we are patients, willy-nilly, the entire world population. Doctors are like which one and who - some more, others less heartfelt, third ones more and more or just politicians. It's not easy for us, vaccinated recovered and tested, and as it seems, it won't be for a long time.
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| Becar23. 11. 2021 18:02:30 |
When the so-called "garage" vaccinations around stores started, it was clearly seen that they didn't care at all whether you drop dead right there on the spot or in a few years. They vaccinated without any check of records, asked old demented if they were allergic to anything, even though the vaccine ingredient is unknown. They vaccinated right in the winter season, at the peak of infections.... They wouldn't even vaccinate you for a tick in summer so you wouldn't get it right then.
In short, everyone has already had plenty of opportunities to see what's going on. Some of us stepped out of this game pretty soon. Some will obviously persist for a while longer. But I think everyone has their own limit. I sense that we will have to fight back that true freedom sooner or later with a revolution. Otherwise, we will be enslaved forever.
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| starejša23. 11. 2021 18:40:49 |
The media-political-propaganda campaign around this "virus", which is most appropriately called "propaganda psychological war", must also and above all have a psychological reason: and that is the re-education of the world population. In other
words: the population that has so far been ideologically educated and convinced that it lives in a "democratic" and "liberal" world, and has been directed by propaganda to view the world through the prism of "human rights" and "consumerism", must be re-educated to view the world through the prism of the "virus", i.e. "life threat", because of which it must give up rights and consumer goods – which are unimportant and dispensable compared to the propagandistically created "life threat". In other words: it's a fear campaign, with which it's only possible to convince or prepare people to give up the previous comfort that the broken economic system is no longer able to provide them. Only this is a sufficient reason to explain why the "corona campaign" is conducted exactly in this way, with this intensity, omnipresence, forcefulness and duration.
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| pantani123. 11. 2021 19:04:46 |
Restaurants and concerts open only for vaccinated and recovered, unvaccinated even negative test doesn't help” So, unvaccinated brings irrefutable proof in black and white that he's not positive and can't enter, while V and R enter freely without proof of their current infection status? Can someone please correct me, because this can't be true. 
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