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| VanSims4. 12. 2021 07:51:01 |
That about ATMs I posted a bit for fun. I knew it was a hoax because I also first saw the article that @zavest later posted. I wanted to scare antivaxxers a bit. 
Well, whoever is smart would think a bit. First you go get tested and pick up your money at the bank (unless they enforce PC in between). Otherwise almost everywhere you can buy with card today. In Scandinavia (in Sweden especially) this hoax wouldn't work at all because there many people don't pay with cash anymore, many stores cafes museums gas stations ... only accept cards which I felt on my own skin this summer.
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| pantani14. 12. 2021 10:03:37 |
Mandatory vaccination payment covid tax? Hm first let all doctors who pulled covid bonuses who today examine their patients through window from clinic prescribe therapy via mail start doing their work then maybe they will be given right to moralize to the nation that pays taxes and additional insurance and taxes so they even receive salary and until pharmacists drive them around the world on trips and dinners they must rinse mouths with bleach before every comment about the people!!! 
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| Becar4. 12. 2021 13:56:27 |
From several people I got info that in various clinics they do self-testing themselves. Procedure looks like this. You go to health center untested test yourself in clinic then must go out of health center wait for sms then can come back 
Of course by kekec opinion this is ok what will I say since I'm layman. Surely must be like that I'm FB doctor
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| pantani14. 12. 2021 14:49:35 |
Well you know, they have surrendered to the "new normal".
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| Becar4. 12. 2021 16:32:50 |
Another anecdote on the theme "trust the experts". A few years ago I was prescribed polygraphy. It's an examination where they give you a device to take home for measuring pulse, breathing and oxygen in blood. You put it on before sleep and it does measurements at night. Of course, since it's public health, the device looks kinda Russian with numerous tangled cables and sensors like putting two packs of cigarettes on your chest. Then sleep, if you can.
Well, I put it on, around 22 turn off light, struggle three hours to fall asleep.....no go. Gotta lie in one position all time, otherwise everything tangles or shifts. At 1 take it all off and fall asleep right away. Next day take device back for data analysis. Also tell the doctor I struggled 3 hours to sleep but sadly didn't work. She said they'd analyze those 3 hours anyway, maybe something useful can be read, results in 14 days.
When I get the report, it said b.p., but between 23 and 24 snoring detected
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| kekec624. 12. 2021 16:59:19 |
I won't say that nothing bothers me in healthcare, but I can't criticize everything indiscriminately because not everyone is the same. Young doctors aren't in that league and many try to be successful.
Yes, the operation of clinics bothers me because some staff under the Covid excuse don't pick up the phone and don't accept patients saying they take only urgent cases. I don't understand what they do in clinics if they don't accept patients but are present.
It also bothers me the writing of antivaxxers that everything is made up and that vaccinated are more dangerous to society than unvaccinated. In history, many epidemics were solved precisely by vaccination.
And regarding the world conspiracy, yes it's possible that the virus was created with some purpose, I don't deny that, but now we have it here and we have to solve it somehow. No one was bothered by the 2008 financial crisis, no one is bothered that banks give 0% interest to savers and when you take a loan, they charge 5-7% interest and also costs that are made up on the spot.
These are also things that should concern us.
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| Becar4. 12. 2021 18:25:10 |
Also no scary covid in German parliament, if someone didn't know.
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| hočo4. 12. 2021 18:55:43 |
VanSims, what's now with this Covaxin vaccine? Is that classic dead virus or what?
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| pantani14. 12. 2021 19:03:43 |
Copy:
For all vaccinated who act so arrogantly to us unvaccinated, humiliate us, verbally attack and want to take away even doctor visit if sick, want us pay treatment ourselves tho we pay all obligations.....ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.
GIVEN THAT IN HEAL- TH AND RELATED JOBS NOT ALL VACCINATED, WILL YOU LET UNVACCINATED HEALTH WORKERS HELP YOU OR RATHER DIE IF NEED OUR HELP???
ANSWER PLEASE!!!
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| Becar4. 12. 2021 20:39:00 |
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| kekec624. 12. 2021 21:51:07 |
Patani: Why always twist words, preventing doctor visit, isn't participation if visit the same? By your thinking, one who didn't pay extra health insurance should have same rights as those who did.
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| VanSims5. 12. 2021 03:48:40 |
Answer to Becar's and then Pantani's question: health and related staff should be mandatorily vaccinated!
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| pantani15. 12. 2021 07:12:08 |
Why should I then, despite paying additional insurance, pay participation too?!!!
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| VanSims5. 12. 2021 08:05:06 |
"No way!!!"
Yes, unfortunately! In France for example it is. So we vaccinated have to risk it too. The risk is smaller for us than for unvaccinated but it still exists.
One possible solution would be that every patient has the right to know if the doctor treating him (or who will treat him) is vaccinated and if not has the right to get another. Of course in one or the other case all the medical elite with Kuštrin at the head would go up in smoke. In the end the constitutional court would annul it anyway.
Have to wait for those leftists to come to power.
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| gely5. 12. 2021 09:28:19 |
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| pantani15. 12. 2021 09:36:48 |
Any news?? Friend 7x vaccinated with two boosters at the front asking if he can drink mulled wine and eat sausages at stands???
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| Aljoman5. 12. 2021 09:59:19 |
@vansims, for now vaccination is NOT MANDATORY, not for you, not for me, not for healthcare staff.
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| Becar5. 12. 2021 10:04:47 |
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| kekec625. 12. 2021 11:22:18 |
That's right, the guilty are those who don't want to get vaccinated and thus enable mutations to the virus. Therefore it would be only right and fair that in case of hospitalization, they pay the costs themselves.
If a driver drives under alcohol influence and causes an accident, pays the costs himself and also a fine on top.
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