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| Aljoman5. 12. 2021 21:34:41 |
zavest: "But when we're in the middle of a pandemic, it fails."
As far as I know, the pandemic is not declared. Nor the epidemic.
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| zavest6. 12. 2021 01:10:51 |
You get a bee if you find the date when WHO revoked the covid pandemic 
Of course it's impeccable logic that there must be a declared epidemic here, while the health system has been operating at capacity limit for some time 
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| Becar6. 12. 2021 07:17:15 |
And you believe that about the capacity limit? 
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| pantani16. 12. 2021 07:37:56 |
The healthcare system has been operating at the limit of capacity since 1992, except for the elite!!!
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| kekec626. 12. 2021 07:38:58 |
Becar: we've already figured out that you're not at home with percentages, then logic falters a bit and we get what you're writing here.
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| pantani16. 12. 2021 08:33:21 |
Vaccinating just like that, blanketly everywhere, and also setting some age limits, without serious justified criteria, ignoring contraindications, medical history, vaccinating in the middle of an epidemic, that's completely unserious, unprofessional, inhuman, nonsensical, stupid, unreasonable, unacceptable, low, dictatorial, insidious and shameless!!!
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| pantani16. 12. 2021 08:46:59 |
The pressure on hospitals is so severe that they didn't even respond to medical students who sent applications for help on covid wards (especially Maribor).
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| Aljoman6. 12. 2021 09:16:22 |
zavest: "...while the healthcare system has been operating at the limit of capacity for some time"
Well, that's been the case as far as we remember.
But it's true the pressure is certainly greater during corona times, in autumn and winter months. In summer everything worked as usual, with a few months (even yearly) wait for non-urgent check-ups. If that's normal, then hospitals are operating in usual tracks.
Kekec, you still haven't answered how we're going to solve the problems of alcoholics, smokers...
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| Becar6. 12. 2021 09:16:45 |
Exactly so, and not only medical students, also nurses from health centers volunteered without success as well as caregivers.
Nothing to do, need to stage a theater and call soldiers, all carefully filmed of course. So really as they say, we have Bergamo. Completely identical situation.
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| zavest6. 12. 2021 10:02:14 |
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| Becar6. 12. 2021 10:15:50 |
Do you remember how Bojana attacked the Initiative of Slovenian Doctors? A group of regime doctors opened an open-type petition, into which 2500 "doctors" (read regime-affiliated salespeople, butchers, auto mechanics, bakers, turners.....) signed against the initiative.
Now there's an open petition for Bojana's resignation, where already 8500 "doctors" have signed
The noose is tightening, all "doctors" invited to sign the petition
https://www.peticija.online/zahteva_za_odstop_predsednice_zdravnike_zbornice_bojane_beovi
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| Aljoman6. 12. 2021 10:37:51 |
and when you don't know what to write, you resort to insulting all around. Well, typical right-wing spin, which is already so familiar to us, like lying, pretending, stealing... O&O
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| zavest6. 12. 2021 11:20:41 |
Meanwhile northern neighbors like the Greeks are preparing (three)monthly subscription for extending anti-vaxxer status.
Price pocket change, 600 eur for three months. For self-proclaimed tycoons and war profiteers like Bećar it's peanuts
I dare bet that upon reading he will immediately think of seeking justice with lawyers in courts
https://www.rtvslo.si/zdravje/novi-koronavirus/v-italiji-necepljeni-izkljuceni-iz-vecjega-dela-javnega-zivljenja-v-avstriji-kazni-za-necepljene/603907
Austria: 600 euro fines for those who won't get vaccinated
In Austria vaccination against covid-19 will be mandatory from 1 February next year. The draft law on mandatory vaccination prepared by the Austrian government reportedly provides for 600 euro fines for each trimester for those who do not want to get vaccinated.
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| starejša6. 12. 2021 11:48:04 |
zavest, so you mean you're giving us Austria as a shining example? Or are you scaring us with it? Such a terrible satisfaction emanates from your words, over yourself of course. In complete contrast to your username - what exactly are you conscious of  ? probably your great consciousness ...
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| pantani16. 12. 2021 11:52:27 |
You forgot to mention (or maybe not), that it still has to go through parliament's sieve, because for now it's still just a proposal. We won't have that here, because the bald one would hammer a nail into his head with that, besides we're way below Austrians in salaries. Most of us are on minimum!!!
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| VanSims6. 12. 2021 11:52:56 |
@Becar: above all, it's important to emphasize that the form on your link is public, so anyone can really sign it and even multiple times. That's why such a difference, even if bakers, masons,... really signed against the self-proclaimed initiative.
Let's remind once again that in that initiative there isn't a single virologist, immunologist or infectologist, in short, a person qualified for such issues. How can you then get upset that bakers, masons,... supposedly signed the petition.
@starejsa: I don't like Austria either. Although Becar constantly accuses me of Austrophilia, I'm more Austrophobe. But hey, here they have to be credited with a bullseye. And they have good via ferratas too, which is more or less the only reason I go there.
@pantani: no, here the opposition would block it in their diversionary manner, if nothing else the constitutional court would annul it. There they are more united and I believe it will succeed. Probably only the libertarians will be against. Yes, they have antivaxxers in parliament, while here we don't (at least on declarative level).
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| Becar6. 12. 2021 12:32:50 |
Van, you're misleading again. Beović's petition is also public. That's exactly the catch. Do you even understand what I'm saying? She said 2000 doctors signed it, but the petition was public. Any Janšist or vax extremist could sign up. Again, one ordinary lie, Bojana has accumulated quite a few of these lies, it started with the lie that it's not experimental vaccines.
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| zavest6. 12. 2021 12:53:10 |
@starejša, what emanates from my words depends quite a bit also on the reader himself For example, you can paste a table of excess deaths to Bećar and he won't distinguish positive and negative numbers, because it doesn't match his beliefs.
When you mention consciousness, obviously many among antivaxxers don't have it, because otherwise they would have balls, stick to their principles and not shamelessly occupy beds on the gynecological ward while sick, after being additionally beaten by the horse antiparasitic ivermectin beforehand.
Some just don't see or don't want to see that individual decisions affect the whole society. And where it doesn't go nicely (example of countries with high vaccination rates and population solidarity), it will go less nicely, with monthly rent
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| pantani16. 12. 2021 12:56:09 |
Orthoped Loredan wanted to help and was fired. STAFF BURDEN.... I'm really wondering what would happen if the virus was actually even more contagious and dangerous??? How can 200 people in intensive care collapse the system for our country? What if a huge skyscraper or two burned down? What if there was a major earthquake or some other natural disaster with many injured, mass poisonings... I don't know??? With that, for viruses it's known when the worst season is and this has been going on for 2 years already, and they still haven't managed to organize things and prepare. We can only hope that covid is the worst that happened to healthcare, because if any of the above happened they would probably just leave us, whatever happens. And in the end flyovers of planes
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