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| starejša6. 12. 2021 13:12:22 |
> zavest: Some just don't see or don't want to see that individual decisions affect the whole society.
doesn't this apply to you too?
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| starejša6. 12. 2021 13:17:07 |
mateja logar: She said that at their intensive care unit there are currently eight free beds available, but not even for these eight there is enough staff. So according to her at this moment we absolutely cannot afford a new deterioration, so she hopes citizens understand why measures are necessary and why they must be respected.
But that someone would think the solution is staff for those empty beds, that never happens. Really interesting logic, always citizens who should understand ... How easily it comes to them, simply unbelievable 
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| zavest6. 12. 2021 13:34:48 |
@starejša: how do you want me to answer a rhetorical question? 
All in the extended family are vaccinated, whoever got infected after vaccination had a mild form as a result, even those over 70 years old. At the same time, non-recoverers still test in case of symptoms or after possible risky contact. In short, no one from home additionally burdened healthcare because of covid and most likely didn't cause additional infections outside the family either.
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| Becar6. 12. 2021 13:45:09 |
Haha Zavest, you know it's exactly the same in our extended family too, everyone got covid (except me who is immune), everyone was UNVACCINATED when they got it (now after the illness we have 3 elderly vaccinated), also high-risk age and oncology groups in our family.
And you know what...all with MILD form. Unbelievable, a miracle right!
And also for Van the link, who can't be bothered to google it, although I already posted the link once.
link
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| pantani16. 12. 2021 13:49:17 |
The experts say:
Chestnuts will save us 
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| kekec626. 12. 2021 14:09:57 |
What about alcoholics? Alcohol is a free choice of every individual, so I see no need for them to be treated at the expense of the health system. I know a person who was treated seven times at the expense of healthcare and received salary.
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| Aljoman6. 12. 2021 14:21:20 |
kekec: "...to be treated on the shoulders of the health system."
So, they (and smokers... and all those who don't care for a healthy lifestyle) are not a burden on the health system? Have they stopped alcohol abuse during corona time? Don't they burden the health system?
And treatment is on whose shoulders?
Kekec, don't put everything in the same basket. Even antivaxxers (as you call them) freely decide whether to get vaccinated or not. For now IT'S NOT MANDATORY!
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| julius6. 12. 2021 14:34:07 |
Kekec 62
Think a bit how high the tax is on cigarettes and alcohol. Already on a daily level it's so much money it makes your head spin.
But there are three untaxed areas:
1.- Drugs
2.- Sexual services. Brothels are banned here
and so there's free trade without taxes.
3.- Tax on stupidity. If they introduced it, you
and your like-minded would be nicely taxed.
(I can lend you a good hammer so you can nail well
in the continuation of the debate.
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| starejša6. 12. 2021 14:49:48 |
> zavest: @starejša: how do you want me to answer a rhetorical question?
Well how? Consciously, of course, how else  .
For the others who sometimes still forget that the point is exactly that, you can't find logic no matter how much you break your head, here's the explanation from one of the top bosses: "Why did you say yes to chestnuts, but no to other food and drink?":
“We usually eat chestnuts and walk around throwing shells on the ground. The way is completely different from mulled wine, when we usually stop at a stall and drink it at a table where more people gather. We can't drink wine with a mask, so we are without masks at a distance less than 1.5 meters”......
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| VanSims6. 12. 2021 15:23:00 |
@Becar: yeah it's on the net.
But on the Chamber's petition there are at least some doctors, one, two per page (or more but they don't flaunt their doctor titles too much), on the other one practically nothing.
Also you can see that the signers of the other petition have less balls to reveal their surname and name, since on the first petition there's one maybe two per page like that, on the second almost half, come on 40%.
Also the first petition is already closed for signing, the second one still open.
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| Becar6. 12. 2021 15:31:20 |
Some doctors are completely something else than Bojan's 2000 doctors, don't you think? After all, the CI of Slovenian doctors has 60 members listed, there you'll hardly count 60 signed doctors.
Of course the petition is closed because it's old and reached the upper limit of signatures.
Against Beovićka there's a newer one and it already has 3X more signatures before closing.
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| Becar6. 12. 2021 18:22:09 |
Another proof that covid spreads in schools, but not in high circles! They really take us for fools and those who let it happen are actually fools.
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| zavest6. 12. 2021 19:05:34 |
You're superficially following again. In the bottom photo they have regular, not mulled wine, so everything is under control. 
Because as soon as you put mulled wine in the same glass, the virus comes too. 
That's also why people can't drink mulled wine at stalls, but can party inside the pubs.
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| kekec626. 12. 2021 19:12:09 |
Julius: Yeah I thought this was a page for ranting, did I get it wrong???
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| hočo6. 12. 2021 19:23:05 |
one for intermezzo for kekec: I had an alcoholic employee, he was never a burden on the health system, but a burden on the employer i.e. me
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| pantani16. 12. 2021 19:45:50 |
You can drink snake venom and nothing happens, but inject it into a vein and it kills you. You can swallow air and just burp, inject it into a vein and it kills you. Drink a shot of schnapps and you'll be in a good mood, inject it and it kills you. Just for starters. Otherwise it's a waste explaining to someone who after two years of scamming hasn't realized they're being scammed
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| Becar6. 12. 2021 21:16:56 |
Excellent scientifically based contribution, starejša. I'm curious what's wrong with this scientist, maybe a YouTube doctor, not in the right party......
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| Becar6. 12. 2021 21:22:30 |
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| Vincenc526. 12. 2021 22:13:21 |
hočo
That's your own fault, probably felt sorry for him, mistake, you supported him yourself so it's your burden, correct. I had similar experiences with my worker i.e. female worker and we solved it very quickly. When there's a work injury it's his ZZS cost, yours for court
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