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| zavest7. 12. 2021 00:10:39 |
I hope it's not too hard a question for Facebook science doctors: in a 100% vaccinated population, what percentage of hospital patients would be vaccinated?
Belgium has up to 94% vaccination in certain age groups, so nothing unusual if in one hospital on ICU only vaccinated. https://covid-vaccinatie.be/en
Also consider not every patient goes to ICU, because particularly vulnerable people (e.g. over 80 or severe chronic patients) intubation or mechanical ventilation exhausts them to the point that even after successful treatment their body can't breathe independently anymore...
Take a look at rehab at Soča Institute. Of 123 patients only one was vaccinated.
https://www.delo.si/magazin/zanimivosti/ko-sem-bil-na-berglah-se-mi-je-zdelo-da-sem-na-konju/
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| VanSims7. 12. 2021 05:21:30 |
@Becar: the data is actually for whole Flanders (Ghent belongs there and also Antwerp which is actually in the video): 70% of people in hospitals are vaccinated. But 90% of Flemings are vaccinated! That's the phenomenon I talked about a few pages back: Absolutely more vaccinated, but percentage-wise much fewer vaccinated in hospitals than unvaccinated percentage-wise.
70%/90% = 7/9
30%/10% = 3
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2021/10/30/70-of-hospitalised-covid-patients-are-vaccinated-but-the-vacci/
So a bit more than three times more unvaccinated. But stupid plebs just fall for it!
@Vincent52: not necessarily! Employee is protected here like Kočevje bear. If he has a good lawyer too, as employer you're doomed. Especially as small employer with max two employees, where one such can mean ruin. I know such a company case. Plus larger companies can afford better lawyers who find some loophole.
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| Becar7. 12. 2021 07:20:05 |
"I hope it's not too hard a question for Facebook science doctors: in a 100% vaccinated population, what percentage of hospital patients would be vaccinated?"
Number of patients=0
Share vaccinated=0%
Share unvaccinated=0%
You and your manipulated thinking. If you have 10% unvaccinated and 10 million base that's still 1 million, genius! 
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| pantani17. 12. 2021 08:31:08 |
" We must be very careful, we know nothing about the long-term symptoms and consequences of Omicron...", says Štrukelj... (On the vaccine with conditional approval such thinking of the 'experts' is blasphemous...) , and continues "No virus, especially not coronavirus or the omicron strain, is a solution by itself. This is of course just the way we think as researchers, vaccination is what can save us" Every virus mutates in a certain time and fades... According to the data available so far and described, Omicron is most similar to a natural vaccine... (mild recovery) and against this 'Christmas gift' as the German health minister called Omicron, Moderna will develop a new vaccine already in spring... It fucks the crazy confused one.
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| pantani17. 12. 2021 08:38:46 |
I didn't know chestnuts are eaten while walking. How does that look? Holding "skrnicelj" with one hand, and with the other and the third peeling chestnuts and eating them?
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| VanSims7. 12. 2021 08:43:14 |
Aha, now even mathematics is manipulated and serves the corona mafia ... 
What I derived is for the whole of Flanders. But NOW in this hospital 100% vaccinated, only those under this doctor or examined by him (10, max 20). He also says there were more unvaccinated than vaccinated before. Less than half vaccinated then. Not constantly 70% everywhere, that's average, otherwise it varies in time and place (individual hospital).
More than that I can't explain. Some need drawings, but I'd rather not
Yes and it would be nice if they were 100% vaccinated but sadly not. And it won't be (small children, those who can't vaccinate, pregnant women, ...)
pantani1: you're not the only one who didn't know that. That's why you wondered why chestnuts are allowed.
But those of us who know that unlike sausages, spoon dishes, ... it's eaten while walking, so chestnut sellers don't have a counter around which drunks on cooked ones and other intoxicants gather, ... we knew that. Individual IQs are different, Gaussian curve is merciless. Also for those on the opposite side of it, who sadly were born in the wrong country ...
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| kekec627. 12. 2021 09:47:26 |
VanSims: unfortunately no writing, no arguments and no studies help. These people are like calves, they have one leader and follow him.
On this side you can only rant in their style and nothing else.
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| kekec627. 12. 2021 09:56:08 |
Patani, I see you really know about viruses. There are millions of viruses and some never go away. What do you think AIDS, Rabies... or do you also believe viruses don't exist?
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| Aljoman7. 12. 2021 10:22:35 |
You too kekec I see you know about diseases, viruses and health issues. Maybe you even distinguish disease and virus.
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| kekec627. 12. 2021 10:28:55 |
With these graphs you just prove you have no idea what it's about. If you want relevant data, you need all data, like: number of vaccinated, virus type, technology at the time the virus appeared... Cars were developed for longer years ago than today and all else...
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| Becar7. 12. 2021 10:30:02 |
˝Aha, now even mathematics is manipulated and serves the corona mafia ...˝
Not now. Since March 2020. And not mathematics, but statistics. Mathematics can't be manipulated.
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| Becar7. 12. 2021 10:39:56 |
Kekec, you have no idea. Testing of medicines and vaccines can't be rushed. That's why these vaccines are EXPERIMENTAL, safety and efficacy unknown and for that reason manufacturer not liable for ANYTHING (even if a billion people die or EVERY vaccinated dies). Some still haven't read the Pfizer-EU contract and rant nonsense for two years.
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| pantani17. 12. 2021 10:51:57 |
Rožle, you are the smartest and know everything, there's no help for you. Anyway, you're vaccinated, which means you should be safe, I don't know why you're getting so upset?! I suggest you go for a big serving of chestnuts.
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| Aljoman7. 12. 2021 11:17:00 |
Eat chestnuts, drink tea and you'll die healthy.
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| zavest7. 12. 2021 11:19:43 |
Mathematics can't be manipulated, although Bećar tried his best, when in the excess mortality table he didn't separate positive and negative numbers
> safety and effectiveness are not known
But do you trust the safety and effectiveness of seatbelts and airbags in cars? What if you're just falling for car industry propaganda and their seatbelt-airbag lobby? Think a bit, how they're fooling you, because most people in traffic accidents die because they were buckled up and exposed to airbags!
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| s_bostjan7. 12. 2021 12:49:58 |
About belts or tires on cars we can debate endlessly, but it's pointless and still not so comparable as presented here.
If I tried with analogy, I'd have to say first that drivers noticed the belt is not like before and now it's made of gift ribbon, which means in an accident (most likely) you won't die, but the belt will tear, yet still cushion the impact. Secondly, if the belt had spikes on it that could trigger anytime and injure you, I wonder if you'd buckle up for a 100m drive to the store.
ps: I'm not vaccinated (nor do I consider myself anti-vaxxer), I'm recovered and I'll get vaccinated when I judge that the risk of vaccine side effects is smaller than the risk of Covid taking me out. I know I can be wrong, but I'll bear the responsibility myself. I won't get vaccinated for others, because I don't believe in its success. Even in countries with high vaccination rates they don't get rid of Covid.
But I'm for open dialogue, open enough that someone convinces me otherwise. But not by hiding information from me, disabling public expression of opinion and hiding key information.
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| Becar7. 12. 2021 12:57:52 |
"But do you trust the safety and effectiveness of seatbelt and airbag in the car?"
Of course I trust after 50 years since introduction. But to school you a bit on this field too......At the beginning of seatbelt introduction, the seatbelt was very dangerous and not in the form we see today. At first they didn't even use headrests and when neck vertebrae started breaking serially, they introduced that too. As for the belt technology itself, the three-point attachment was introduced by Volvo after years of dangerous belts and then they didn't enforce the patent as protected, because it was so crucial for safety that they judged it's better to share the patent with other manufacturers. So, this is a rather bad comparison or actually against your arguments.
Excess mortalities are a tool of manipulation of covid mafia, I explained extensively before how and what. Look at death rate or better crude death rate on Statista for Germany, Netherlands, France, Sweden.....in countries with organized healthcare nowhere was unexpected mortality in 2020. In Slovenia there was and also this year 2021 will be, because they are committing genocide over patients with other diseases. It looks like this: clinics closing, staff coffees, not answering phones, hospitals empty, mandatory PCT for entry, general inaccessibility and delaying surgeries with covid excuse. So here specifically applaud the staff from the balcony too. And thank the government for 1000 nurses who left due to low pay, so the money could go to Mauritius. Look here for the cause of excess mortality in our country. 30% fewer oncology patients, just one example of disease. Does that tell you anything? Probably nothing.
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| VanSims7. 12. 2021 13:35:11 |
And winter tires! 90% of winter accidents happen with winter tires, if we include minor ones (parking lots, small bumps, scrapes against fences, poles, ...) during maneuvering then surely 99%. And you buy winter tires and fall for the tire mafia led by "Big Thumb" directly from Murgel.
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| Becar7. 12. 2021 14:57:06 |
Van probably has some of the first experimental winter tires Obilićevo. The technology was such that they were really cut, but accidents still happened because they were hard as stone
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