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Dr.ejči6. 01. 2021 10:01:42
Ajajaj, "peasant" fools mežikanje... you still don't get that only he is a descendant of "blue blood" velik nasmeh... Hey, happy and healthy... (I'm currently in self-isolation because I have a + person in the household... feeling still okay, but pelinkovec and smrekovec are running out velik nasmeh)
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Becar6. 01. 2021 10:04:55
Like this. I waited a while for the guy to sort himself out but lost hope. So primoza, thanks for showing where in the settings the block is made!

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VanSims6. 01. 2021 10:28:36
We were taught in school that 5 million Jews died. Now it's already 6. In Germany Holocaust denial is punishable, people were punished even for reducing the number of dead. So, if I'd say in Germany that there were 5 million, not knowing it's already 6, would I go to jail? Just asking! I deny nothing, Holocaust was horrific.

>>> I suggest you visit our beautiful Begunje, there they'll know how to help.

Oho, Gorenjka! nasmeh 'Begne', right? I was
there, yes in that castle. eek But down in the museum. velik nasmeh I didn't go to see Avsenik. mrk pogled

As for @linota, you still haven't got it. Well, think a bit, the 'lightbulb' will light up. mežikanje

And let those who got Tadej's message admit it. mežikanje
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ppegan6. 01. 2021 11:14:59
Yes, it's really called Begne, but correctly it's Begunje mežikanje I wrote it that way so that even the one it was meant for would understand velik nasmeh

I didn't get Tadej's message, but I was one of the initiators for Tadej to do something about the one who insults everywhere without reason. Thanks, Tadej nasmeh I hope your message has some effect.

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redbull6. 01. 2021 14:35:40
one from yesterday, still dying of laughter
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ločanka6. 01. 2021 14:37:55
redbull, yeah, really to die laughingnasmeh
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Sorok6. 01. 2021 16:16:37
@VanSims and Lino; Lino's ironic sarcasm is most often spot on. Sometimes it overflows a bit nasmeh Anyway (dusting the ashes off myself) we all overflow sometimes; one way or anothervelik nasmehmežikanje
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Bandzo6. 01. 2021 17:04:43
You get it, right, that one population is a subset of the other? Namely all over 75 are also over 65. If calculating for population up to 85 (as hočo said) then besides the intersection also consider the difference. But no doubt such a banality escapes you.

Regards,
Ben
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lino6. 01. 2021 17:39:11
Red Bull, thanks, thanks! Please don't push me too much into boss ranks, I'll get arrogant. My title is just fr. nasmeh
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Bandzo6. 01. 2021 18:06:34
Maybe the problem is in wrong approximations and assumptions?nasmeh
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Mrki6. 01. 2021 18:48:25
The data cited by @hočo refer to deaths per infected. According to NIJZ data, this percentage for over 85 is 3.30 for men and 2.36 for women.
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martin46. 01. 2021 18:59:39
Tadej,
come on, calm the selfie king, or delete all...not readable anymore!jezen
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guki6. 01. 2021 19:32:15
Primoza, your approximations and assumptions with official numbers will never match. The Covid tracker says they have no official numbers. Official ones are at the statistical office; you'll have to wait a bit for that.

Regarding Covid deaths, here are two statements.

First from your friend.

"Everyone who dies today, or 95 percent of those who die today, regardless of dying perhaps as a result of cancer but had Covid alongside, is attributed as having died from Covid." No, this was not stated by the famous Covid skeptic Marko Potrč, but by the Minister of the Interior Aleš Hojs in the Tarča show on December 10 on TV Slovenia.


"People who died and were proven positive, in Slovenia we treat as having died with Covid-19, regardless of the subsequent cause of death. Many other countries chose a different approach and report significantly fewer deaths, hence the discrepancy," explained Mateja Logar from the Clinic for Infectious Diseases and Febrile Conditions at Ljubljana's UKC at the government press conference, adding that the number of deaths in hospitals has not increased percentage-wise compared to the first wave. The reason is simply a much larger number of infected.

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zokipoki6. 01. 2021 20:26:30
Following obituaries locally for years and this year more deceased than usual, unless I'm seeing ghosts.
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zavest6. 01. 2021 20:29:32
Zoki, you're not seeing ghosts. Excess deaths graph shows all, regardless how they classify dead (with covid, without covid, from covid...)

https://covid-19.sledilnik.org/sl/stats#excess-deaths-chart
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ljubitelj gora6. 01. 2021 21:07:35
When in the evening a bit before 7 I hear the quiz, I already rush to the TV to switch before it's 7. Simply, you can't watch these anymore; they say the same thing for a good 2 months. This path is problematic and one needs to choose another. How will many people come to terms with it? Simply, they'll have to and find an alternative like innkeepers cooking and handing meals through the window, and work from home. Existing measures obviously don't work; everything is closed on Sundays, [there are] bans but the virus spreads meanwhile on the Balkans everything [is] open and all goes normally with some measures.
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guki6. 01. 2021 21:09:42
It looks like there are more deceased in your area, but do you have some official statistics somewhere about this or is it just your feelings?
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dprapr6. 01. 2021 21:26:51
Guki, when some known people and a close relative die from covid, would you say to him that it's just a feeling like that, [but] reality is different?!
The main thing [is that] you keep hammering and hammering.
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zavest6. 01. 2021 21:57:14
Guki, if the graph is too heavy to understand, say so and prof. dr. self. king. Primož will draw it for you with crayons mežikanje
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Janez527. 01. 2021 01:51:39
When interpreting data we must pay attention to what each term means. Mortality and death rate are not the same concepts. Mortality is the number of deaths compared to the number of infected. From covid tracker data in the 85+ population mortality [is] 20% (31% for men and 17% for women). We get 20% mortality because in the 85+ group 1451 people died, infected (confirmed cases) there were 7135 people. Mortality by age groups drops quickly: in 75-84 group 11.5%, 65-74 3.7% and 55-64 0.5%.
Death rate means the number of deaths in a certain population and is usually shown per 1000 inhabitants. In Slovenia in 85+ population [there are] 54136 people, in this group died from covid 1451, which gives death rate 2.68% (3.3 [for] men [and] 2.44 women). Of course the devil is in the details and we can argue if all shown died from covid or [if the] number of confirmed [cases equals the number of] actual infected. If [the] data snapshot [is] the same for all data and similar.
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