Cyclists in the mountains
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| VanSims9. 02. 2014 21:24:57 |
"Why attack instead of answer?"
Because you don't cheer with them the unanimous revolutionary slogans!
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| tslok19. 02. 2014 21:32:57 |
We are cyclists, mountain cyclists! You can easily say we are also hikers, PZS stands behind us, the state gave us trails to manage, now they are ours, we are hikers.
We strive for legislation to be favorable to us, whether it's arranged within PZS or otherwise. We want equality, because we don't do things any differently than you, we look at nature similarly to you, we enjoy like you... and why couldn't we share the space. I know, it's hard to hear individuals within the crowd... and it's hard because we don't have a solid foundation behind us, an association that would properly represent us, but we do our best.
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| FSkok9. 02. 2014 21:33:21 |
@cebelca; yesterday you wrote this;
"And one more thing. Everyone has the right to express their opinion, what bothers me is the writing of certain individuals participating in the debate who behave as if they have answers to all questions, although they don't even have basic concepts clarified and don't take even that much time to read something additional about this issue, which is much more complex than they try to portray.
And instead of moving the topic forward and seeking constructive solutions together, we keep repeating the same thing to the same people non-stop"
That a person changes their principles in one day, well that's really funny, isn't it Maja.
No hard feelings, Franci Skok
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| cebelca9. 02. 2014 21:33:59 |
What attack are you talking about?
I don't understand why you're asking BorisM. Was he there by chance?
And what are you hinting at with the statement about misleading the public?
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| cebelca9. 02. 2014 21:36:56 |
No hard feelings, but I really don't understand what else you want to hear from us. On more than ten pages in this thread everything has already been explained a hundred times.
Our positions, what we stand for, what we want and now you're interested in how it was voted? What does that have to do with anything?
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| FSkok9. 02. 2014 21:41:08 |
I'm not hinting but claiming that it's not fair that only participants were listed under those conclusions, because now an image is being created as if all participants were FOR such conclusions. KTK definitely wasn't, proven!
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| cebelca9. 02. 2014 21:46:31 |
If they weren't, they probably wouldn't have signed.
I'm not the right address for those answers, because I wasn't there.
Write to mtbi.si and ask them and don't make your own conclusions, because you're hinting again as if the signed people are those who didn't agree with it at all.
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| tslok19. 02. 2014 21:51:02 |
http://www.gore-ljudje.net/novosti/103119/#19700101010000
quote: "Prebrisano in skoraj čez noč so leta 2007 postali statutarni del Planinske zveze Slovenije in s tem – zaradi gorniške solidarnosti – svoj delež elegantno prevalili na društvene markaciste (in planinsko organizacijo v celoti)"
If there is no solidarity and goodwill from PZS and the vice-president can afford such a comment, it's almost pointless to discuss the appropriateness or honesty of the above conclusions!
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| FSkok9. 02. 2014 21:58:27 |
Once again, I'm not hinting but claiming, Mr. Rovan as KTK representative could not agree with such conclusions (point 2) at all! I don't know about the other representatives, that's why I'm asking.
And to be clear, the link to read on mtb.si, I'm not the first to serve it !
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| tine.sl9. 02. 2014 22:33:36 |
From the topic a proper debate of the Slovenian parliament has emerged, in which a couple of left-wingers and a couple of right-wingers scream: Which of their leaders is prettier.
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| mmuz9. 02. 2014 22:59:51 |
@FSkok: on what basis can you claim that Mr. Rovan did not agree with such conclusions? I overlooked this above-mentioned proof.
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| Daaam10. 02. 2014 08:30:26 |
tine.sl hit the nail on the head 
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| FSkok10. 02. 2014 12:39:01 |
"@FSkok: on what basis can you claim that Mr. Rovan did not agree with such conclusions? I actually overlooked this above-mentioned proof."
Based on the meeting of the path markers of our MDO a few days ago, where Mr. Rovan was also present to explain things in more detail about this and present the KTK positions. Since I don't doubt the integrity of the mentioned gentleman, whom I've known for several years, I'm convinced he didn't advocate and support two different positions at two different meetings.
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| cebelca10. 02. 2014 13:50:58 |
Franci, interesting info for us too. Thanks. We'll check on that.
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| tslok113. 02. 2014 17:54:59 |
http://www.hribi.net/slika.asp?profil=4106
This is a banana republic! We have such things in our parts. On one side cyclists-criminals because they cause damage, on the other side such interventions in space are allowed that even some cultural monuments can't escape them, like this old Roman road above Ajdovščina. Unheard of!!
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| tine.sl13. 02. 2014 18:31:30 |
By the way, this is part of the newest Slovenian mountain bike transversal, which is also the work of PZS. Mr. Rovan put quite an effort into it, I know because I helped him with that section of the trail. And we tried so hard to avoid every hiking path, but nature conservationists are relentless.
https://plus.google.com/photos/110184246016943941063/albums/5979561460570045137?banner=pwa
Because of these photos, I got a really weird phone call this morning asking why I had to post that.
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