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| geppo18. 08. 2011 10:30:32 |
http://www.climbers-shop.com/241898/products/garmont_dragontail.aspx
Bought at the last sale and first impressions are only++++
Hard sole, good grip, when laced they fit like poured on the foot. So far very satisfied with them. The purchase purpose was primarily for via ferrata climbing, now they are constantly on my feet ( also for wandering  ).
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| Hribojzl18. 08. 2011 12:44:10 |
I bought Alpina Tibet, all nice and right, but at home I felt on the right foot from above it slightly presses on the ring toe - will the boot expand more or is it simply too small?
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| Sano18. 08. 2011 18:45:03 |
Hribojzl, the shoe should in principle stretch widthwise with use, length for sure not. If the shoe was too small for you, it would most likely pinch your big toe, so I doubt they're too small for you.
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| DD5. 09. 2011 17:32:19 |
hi.
i'm wondering if any of you have experience with LA SPORTIVA trango guide shoes? i had alpinine gojzarje before and unfortunately they fell apart quite a bit in 2 years, mostly i do ferratas. thanks for reply
lp
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| urbancek5. 09. 2011 17:59:20 |
Hribojzl: Tibet works well on scree too, it's simply one of the best alpine products ever, and very durable too... A shoe as comfortable and soft as Tibet is hard to get blisters from... Had 2 pairs, never issues, could go full-day tour right with new ones, that's how comfortable they were... Anyway it all depends on the person... But they're a bit heavier and not as agile as Trango EVO etc., so not best for harder climbing or ferratas... anyway... Lp!
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| JusAvgustin22. 09. 2011 19:23:21 |
I'm wondering if anyone has LS Trango Guide, experience with the shoe, pros, cons and especially approx lifespan. Sadly I have to say I sent LS Ganda Guide for warranty second time already, front part separated from sole... Maybe I really push them too much a bit. With Ganda I only climbed ridges and routes to IV. For climbing shoes, for other... Bought in April...
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| garmont22. 09. 2011 19:43:18 |
I have those shoes myself. Since I wore Garmont model before (of course), La Sportiva is a bit narrow for me (only weak spot). But compared to Garmont it's a much lighter shoe. To be honest, the first time I put them on I thought I had sneakers on. Sole is stable, crampon compatible, in short, excellent shoe. And price in Iglu is very good (146€).
Lp
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| JusAvgustin22. 09. 2011 19:50:51 |
I know, Garmont. Ordered, arrives tomorrow, Sunday take it for a walk... I swear by LS from Trango Prime to Karakorum Pro GTX to Ganda , now also Trango Guide, not mentioning climbing shoes. I have foot 46 and despite that "right" climbing shoes were 43 1/2 excellent grip, in future also swear by LS, only my Ganda series they "screwed up!!!!!!!!!" TG discounted 30%, won't miss opportunity and main shoe light. Thanks for easier decision, maybe see ya somewhere in mountains...
Juš
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| garmont22. 09. 2011 19:57:49 |
We were together on Triglav on Saturday, 17.9 (figured out from your baptism pic).
Lp
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| rinča22. 09. 2011 20:09:35 |
This week I also did a warranty claim on LS shoes (Trango Trek) in Iglu, because after 3 months of not excessive use a part of the sole peeled off.
JusAvgustin, first time they didn't want to give you new shoes or the option to buy something else for the same value, or did you agree that they repair them. I strongly hope I can take other shoes for that money, because the same ones really not.
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| JusAvgustin22. 09. 2011 20:31:45 |
They sent them for repair to "their" shoemaker, he re-glued and fixed them. (If I come again for the same issue, apparently I get new ones... ), I don't believe it until I see it... Later I climbed about three routes and two ridges with them... When I got home they came off... Chinese crap! I hope it's not the same with Trango. Something similar happened to me with Karakorum, they fell apart after two years (should last five) (over 150 winter and summer ascents, climbing, and scree...) I know it's PM consumable material, since I really climb and hike a lot, but after 5 months???????????????
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| rinča22. 09. 2011 20:51:15 |
Thanks for the reply, now I know what awaits me... yeah, you're right, they really are Chinese crap. From now on I'll think carefully which shoes to buy, La Sportiva definitely never again. I wish you too get at least new shoes .
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| JusAvgustin22. 09. 2011 21:05:36 |
Still not changing LS (I just overdid the use... )
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| JusAvgustin23. 09. 2011 18:00:03 |
Red Ferrari is waiting for me in the garage... 
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| rinča23. 09. 2011 20:09:36 |
Yeah cool, now just drive them well and carefully together  . And make sure to take good care of them 
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| JusAvgustin23. 09. 2011 20:17:02 |
It doesn't even cross my mind to spare them or anything else... obviously I'll get a new ganda (took them back today). They told me in the store it's impossible for that to happen after two hikes... if they only knew...
I've come to terms that this is highly consumable material
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| velebit23. 09. 2011 23:43:42 |
Yeah I destroyed the sole on the first hike and got new ones at Iglusport which are also in bad condition after a few hikes!!
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| viharnik24. 09. 2011 08:21:30 |
The quality of all brands of summer synthetic technical climbing shoes is nowadays completely at the bottom.
Twelve years ago I got a similar shoe made of suede leather, which was comfortable, stiff and technical. Scarpa Mescalito, they don't make such super shoes anymore because it's not economically viable compared to later "cheaper" competition from synthetic materials.
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| DarjaZaplotnik26. 09. 2011 09:27:57 |
Yeah @Jus, now you've totally confused me... I was almost decided on gando, now these red ones "raj***" (khm khm,  couldn't find a better expression).
best regards d
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| turbo26. 09. 2011 09:39:55 |
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