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| firealarm23. 11. 2009 21:10:12 |
Nice greeting.
I'm buying new boots and deciding between
La Sportiva Nepal EVO GTX
La Sportiva Karakorum Pro GTX
Asolo BROAD PEAK GV
Asolo LHOTSE GV
I need advice if it's suitable to wear Nepal EVO also in summer in the high mountains (for blueberry picking it's out  ) or are they too hot and too stiff?
I tried the La Sportiva boot and it fits my foot perfectly, I plan to try the Asolo boot in the next few days, so any comparisons, experiences, and advice would be very helpful.
I hope I was clear enough, if not, tell me to add more.
Thanks.
P.S. The boot must be suitable for automatic crampons, as I plan to try some ice climbing.
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| bridnk23. 11. 2009 21:30:08 |
La Sportiva boots are among the best on the market, the first ones are definitely too stiff for summer for me. It's important that the boots are comfortable, that you feel good in them, as light as possible... In summer when I went to Triglav, I met someone wearing Millet Alpinist GTX   , yesterday on Grintovec I met someone in plastic boots, I had summer gojzars myself. You can't rely on others' opinions, everyone thinks differently, your foot - your step  . Whatever you decide, may they serve you well, above all safely.
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| izigov23. 11. 2009 21:36:34 |
Thanks for all tips.
In the end bought Alpina PEAK - only type from Alpina suited me.
Took these cos plan winter hike - automatic crampons possible. Tried many types makers.
So far after three big tours - happy choice.
Lp Izi
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| spetovar24. 11. 2009 09:59:14 |
izigov: Very good choice. I tried them, they fitted me very well but were a bit heavy for me then. Later I realized it is not a problem with the boot but with my fitness. When these are too worn out, I will choose Alpina because they have excellent footwear. Yes, it is true that there is something better on the market, but not for that price.
I wish you many comfortably hiked peaks. 
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| spetovar24. 11. 2009 10:10:34 |
firealarm: As bridnk wrote to you, it's your foot and you'll know best which boot fits you best. As already said, take your time when buying, even if you're 2 hours in the shop with them on your feet.
I have ASOLO BROAD PEAK GV, and I'm very satisfied with them. Light, comfortable, compatible with all kinds of crampons, good grip, good lacing system (like almost all now), waterproof,... I don't want to do any advertising, just sharing my practical opinion. La Sportiva is a very good boot, but it didn't fit my foot because they're narrow, and I have flat feet Boots can be worn in summer without issues, but many opt for others because they're heavier and bulkier than summer ones. I take them in summer to high mountains (not always), because the stiff sole suits me when walking on rocks or light scrambling (doesn't flex). As for crampons, inquire too, since some won't hear of automatic crampons for whatever reason. If the issue is automatic vs semi-automatic crampons, it shouldn't affect boot choice, both serve their purpose, weight difference isn't huge. Something else is more important for crampons (cokel). All mentioned boots are suitable for ice climbing, but weight matters a lot there. Plus, ice climbing requires much more than just good boots. Equipment isn't the issue, it's accessible, but knowledge and awareness. There. Hope I helped.
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| firealarm24. 11. 2009 15:07:15 |
bridnk and spetovar thanks a lot for the reply, because I don't want someone to say these boots are excellent and the brand is the right one, and I hop to the shop and buy them. I also know there's no noticeable quality difference between the two brands (at least I'm probably not able to detect it), but I like to gather as much info as possible on what I'm interested in. Exactly as you said spetovar, I've already taken time and will take more. I know the most important is that the boot "fits" the foot, that's why I go to shops and try boots to decide on the optimal solution at the end. But I must say, on such a forum you get much better quality info than in some shops where you feel they don't want to sell a 300€ boot (half joke, half serious).
As for ice climbing, it's clear I won't go to Mojstrana and say boys watch out I'm coming, but I'll approach step by step properly.
lp
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| igorf24. 11. 2009 17:16:28 |
I also have Alpina PEAK for several years (already the second pair) and don't plan to change them in the future, unless they discontinue production. I use them in summer for all major high mountain tours. Only downside I see is they don't hold up well when very wet.
My opinion (from the "old school") is mainly this:
- Let the boot be high, with three lace hooks, good ankle support, strong enough and reinforced on sides too, ideally with replaceable rubber (Peak doesn't have it, but "STIVALE" in LJ replaces it with a better one than new for 42 Eur.)
- I avoid modern "light" boots and it always proved a good decision.
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| firealarm25. 11. 2009 11:18:30 |
Igorf, could you please argue a bit on the last point:
- I avoid modern "light" boots and it has always proved to be a good decision.
No offense, but to me it sounds like:
I avoid modern cars with plastic bumpers and swear by older Mercedes with metal bumpers. But we know newer cars are safer also thanks to all that plastic.
lp
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| lynx25. 11. 2009 11:36:29 |
I also prefer stronger and unfortunately therefore heavier boots. Excellent stability, protection, and with a good choice also waterproofness.
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| rok8625. 11. 2009 17:35:18 |
You don't think that just because the boot is heavier and stronger you have better stability come on guys don't bullshit!!!
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| bridnk25. 11. 2009 18:20:17 |
,...once I went on a tour with winter gojzarji just to see the difference between summer ones, it turned out to be a mistake, if no need I just don't wear them. For protection the best is approach shoe 
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| lynx25. 11. 2009 18:39:46 |
Greater stability is due to greater stiffness, approach shoes aren't suitable for longer rock tours. :P
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| polh25. 11. 2009 19:15:44 |
When I already bought the gojzerje, I later noticed that boot models differ also in tread depth (significantly) on the sole.
So some models have considerably longer lifespan compared to others regarding sole grip.
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| igorf26. 11. 2009 08:49:49 |
Igorf could you please argue a bit the last point:
- I avoid modern "light" boots and it always proved a good decision.
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Maybe I wrote clumsily, sorry. I didn't mean new materials, but those light booties that fill all shops (up to 120 Eur), without reinforcement, thin sole, etc. Looks ok, but construction not much more than sturdy sneakers. I know two acquaintances who broke their ankles falling downhill in such boots.
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| šerpa26. 11. 2009 09:36:34 |
Yeah, the question is if the laces were tightened. I often see people walking with untied laces or not tightened. So in that case I don't know how much any boot can help.
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| maiden27. 11. 2009 13:11:56 |
Can someone tell what's the difference between Alpina PEAK and
Alpina TETON boots? Held both in hand. TETON heavier and looks much more robust, but supposedly leaks after some time (what does that mean? Probably walk all day on dry snow ok?)
For now only held them, but by end of year plan to buy. Leaning to TETON -mainly robustness and warmer than PEAK...
your opinion?
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| CAR27. 11. 2009 16:03:42 |
Your thinking is going in the right direction, if you actually decide on TETON you won't regret it from my own experience. I've been using them for the third year already (only high mountains in winter) and I'm very satisfied in every respect. LP
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| viharnik27. 11. 2009 16:29:25 |
For winter conditions, especially multi-day tours in the mountains, plastic works best. I have been wearing Scarpa Vega for ten years, with no wear or need for replacement yet. They provide excellent side support when walking, cut steps on hard snow ridges, and provide warmth. On wet snow, they hold moisture, while the inner boot stays dry and can practically be used as a slipper in huts.
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| maiden27. 11. 2009 17:18:44 |
Probably one could wear out the boot also in summer?
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