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Kreda, Slatna, Vogels

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zlatica27. 08. 2017 11:21:23
Nice, Peter! But the gentians have probably all dried up this year already? zmedenvelik nasmeh
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peter227. 08. 2017 15:34:35
Yes, even in high mountains it's hot and flowering is mostly over. But there were lots of chamois on the tour nasmeh
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Peter S.
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garmont29. 09. 2017 20:08:15
Today up the valley Za Kopico to Vratca. From there to Zadnji Vogel and along the ridge to the saddle between Slatna and Prvi Vogel and back to the valley.
Snow starts somewhere above 2000 m and the path Za Kopico crosses it a few times... easy. mežikanje On the ridge snow is no obstacle.
After the descent from Srednji Vogel thick fog caught us, lasting until Dedno polje and making the Vogels crossing quite interesting of course. zavijanje z očmi
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Into the fog above Dedno polje1
Behind Kopica2
The fog above 2000 m initially stayed behind us.3
towards Vratca4
Towards Zadnji Vogel, Vratca below.5
View towards Triglav6
Zadnji Vogel already far behind, then it engulfed us....7
...fog.8
Descent from Prvi Vogel...9
...to the saddle beneath it and Slatna.10
The circle is closed.11
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Mrki8. 10. 2017 09:58:01
Yesterday the Vogels, like the whole Julian Alps, shone in the sun. Usually completely solitary paths from Slatna to Zadnji Vogel were quite crowded. On the return via Zelnarice and Tičarice hikers were only on Mali Zelnarica and Mali Tičarica. Paths otherwise unremarkable.
Krsteniški Stog from the path towards Planina pri Jezeru.1
Planina pri Jezeru2
prvi vogel3
prvi vogel4
Lower Bohinj ranges from Rušnatega vrh to Kuk.5
Debeli vrh from Slatna.6
Tičarice with Krn in the background from Prvi Vogl.7
Debeli vrh and Triglav on the left.8
Slatna and Kreda and Laz.9
Peaks and Triglav10
On the Last Vogl11
Debeli vrh and Zadnji Vogel from Velika Zelnarica12
Veliko Špičje13
Mala Zelnarica from Velika14
Ledvička15
Velika Tičarica with Dvojno jezero16
Velika Tičarica17
Mala from Velika Tičarica18
Velika Tičarica in the shade19
Autumn20
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stankoju16. 10. 2017 00:31:39
On Saturday we used a nice autumn day among golden larches and fine views in the heart of the Julian Alps. In the morning we drove from Bohinj to Planina Blato, where we barely found a parking spot, cars full like mid-season. Then we headed to Planina pri Jezeru where we picnicked a bit in the sun and on to Planina Dedno polje, there towards the valley Za Kopico to the spot where the unmarked path branches to Slatna and Prvi Vogel. At Kreda we took another longer break enjoying the views, the gaze already towards Srednji and Zadnji Vogel, which was today's final goal, we descended to saddle Vrata and via valley Za Kopico back to the start. Nice and rather long tour offering fine views of the Julians and enjoyment of autumn colors.
Morning at Planina pri Jezeru1
View of the Lower Bohinj Mountains2
On Slatna3
Slatna4
Kreda and Slatna below5
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KSA8
Tičarice and Krn9
Laz10
Jalovec11
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On the Last Vogl13
Prisoenik and Razor14
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Heap17
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Autumn colors19
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jprim16. 10. 2017 18:02:10
Great.
Do you know there's a path directly from Dedno polje to the top of Kreda and Slatna, the same path we hiked a while ago.
Best regards!








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peter219. 08. 2018 18:54:14
Less than a year ago we found a nice approach to the Vogels from Planina v Lazu. In the upper part we left the valley V Razoru again and turned right into the neighbouring valley under the Vogels. Over steep grass we then climbed near Srednji Vogel and continued to Zadnji Vogel.
Given the heat in the valley, it got quite windy and cold on the Vogels today.
Return via the classic route over Srednji and Prvi Vogel. Slatna and Krede we skipped today.
Few people, more chamois nasmeh
Pictures:
http://www.petersfoto.si/thumbnails.php?album=datebrowse&date=2018-08-19
http://www.petersfoto.si
On the Vogli1
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garmont19. 08. 2018 21:13:17
Me too today with mates up here.mežikanje
At Dedno polje I take the hunters' path that lifts us a level higher, right before the branch to Slatna. Then continue in the valley and below Kopica cross to the marked path to Zelnarice. Follows ascent to both and descent to Vratca then across all Vogels, and at the end also Slatna and Krede. I thought I could nicely descend from Krede via the hunters' path, but unfortunately I couldn't find it from the top. zadrega
So followed back up over Slatna and then left on the little path to the marked path Za Kopico.
If there was fog here during my visit last year, the weather made up for it today. nasmeh
Best regards
Hunting trail above Dedno polje1
Nice view of Vratca from the traverse towards the foot of Kopica.2
View from Mala Zelnarica...3
...and also from Velika.4
Just below the summit of Zadnji Vogel5
Srednji Vogel ahead of us6
Descent from Prvi Vogel towards the saddle.7
Slatna already behind us...8
Kreda9
View of Prvi Vogel from the marked path towards Dedno polje.10
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bogi20. 08. 2018 10:59:03
Nice route you did, garmont, I also have it planned for autumn. Hope I'll "get leave"nasmehnasmehnasmeh
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miri5. 01. 2020 18:04:59
Congratulations. But you're not "joking around" nasmeh
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funnyboy5. 01. 2020 21:17:29
Thanks velik nasmeh nasmeh
Actually we joke around almost all the time, except when choosing hikes jezik velik nasmeh
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j.28. 05. 2020 15:43:39
Yesterday (Wednesday, 27 May), from Planina Blato through Globoka konta to before saddle Vrata and then across all Vogli and over Slatna and Kreda to planina Dedno polje and to Blato.

In Konjske police above Laz I entered a bit lower than last time (at approx. 1650 m). The faint path soon got lost. Through some small bushes and over steep grassy passage I reached without major issues the slanting ledge leading from Razor towards Debelem vrh and key to this crossing. Hard to find its start in Razor as it's hidden by some 50 m of almost impassable bushes. In winter with enough snow, orientation easier (at 1700 m from Razor turn right). From ledge continued in gully leading straight to Globoka konta. It has a guard, right at entrance to lower part nature placed indeterminately deep (at least 20 m or more), vertical and some 7 m wide round pit. Didn't find it on www.katasterjam.si, location approx. 46.336106°, 13.811375°.

Mysterious and solitary Globoka konta still very snowy, but snow doesn't sink much, passable. Under snow also somewhat steeper sunny passage to upper part of cirque, partly covered by overhang, snow there a bit harder. View from under Zahodni Vršak back along cirque stunning. Its bottom some 300 m lower than surrounding peaks, lonely and quiet. No chamois, no planes heard, only under Vršak spotted something like a fox.

Passage from northern access to cirque (between Vršak and Zadnji Vogel, approx. 2171 m) to Vrata only partly snow-free. Ascended Zadnji Vogel on north side snowfield, for forepeak access need some 50 m scramble. There found interesting quite hidden small window, similar to bottomless Sod in Turska gora. From Vogel summit passage well visible, by which from neighboring Vršak 2431 m can reach Globoka konta.

From northern forepeak to Zadnji Vogel just few minutes. Walk across Srednji and Prvi Vogel continuation of aesthetic fairy tale started in Globoka konta. Only descent from Prvi Vogel to saddle between it and Slatna needs care, slope quite steep, path not much trodden. At saddle unmarked path branches left to Razor valley, but fully under steep snow. Slatna and Kreda real eye treat. Vivid green meadows on summits perfect fairy tale end, if found path through bushes straight to Dedno polje. But found only cairn. So descended back to saddle and continued on clear traceable path under SW slopes of Slatna.

Crampons put on mainly due to snow unpredictability at passage from lower to upper Globoka konta and last meters before northern forepeak of Zadnji Vogel. Whole day didn't meet anyone, only from Prehodalcev direction momentary loud talk heard. Marmots and chamois whistling each their way.



This time I sank into Konjske police at a hidden fallen larch.1
The oblique ledge leads towards Debeli vrh.2
The gully leads straight into Globoka konta.3
Lower part of Globoka konta. At the photo location there is also a shaft.4
Snowy upper part of Globoka konta.5
View back from below Zahodni Vršak.6
Poprovec and Vršak. Below narrow traverse for ski tourers, the hardest part (shaded area) is hidden behind the slope.7
Velika Zelnarica, Lepo Špičje, in between Dolina Triglavskih jezer.8
Northern forepeak of Zadnji Vogel. On the summit head some climbing is needed.9
Poprovec, both summits of Kanjavec, Zahodni Vršak and Debeli vrh. Approximate crossing route from below Vršak into Globoka konta is marked.10
Zadnji Vogel from the northern forepeak.11
View towards Prehodavci. Behind Prisojnik and Razor.12
Jalovec, to its right peaks above Tamar.13
Behind Slatna, right Prvi Vogel.14
Kopica, behind Plaski Vogel (?)15
Southern Bohinj Mountains.16
Krn, in front Mala and Velika Tičarica.17
The path leading to Razor from the saddle between Slatna and Prvi Vogel is one continuous snow-covered slope.18
Prvi Vogel from Slatna, below the saddle between them. The path is quite steep.19
Revitalizing green patches on Slatna.20
The chamois posed for me like this.21
Planina Dedno polje in the evening sun.22
Sled.23
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palček plezalček28. 05. 2020 16:41:24
Super nasmeh
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ločanka28. 05. 2020 18:04:45
Beautiful, mysterious world. Wonderful!
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j.29. 05. 2020 08:47:51
Palček and Ločanka, many thanks!
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pinkerton29. 05. 2020 11:24:18
really nice tour, you're an expert
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GregorD31. 05. 2020 10:24:54
Yesterday (30.05.2020) from Blato via Dedno polje to Slatno and on to Kredo. Path without peculiarities. As @j. indicated, winter gear not needed. For sunny summit views I was about an hour too late. Returned via ascent path.
hut at Planina pri Jezeru1
Planina pri Jezeru2
Planina Dedno polje3
Planina Dedno polje4
prvi vogel5
Kopica still basking in the sun6
But at the summit already cloudy7
First Vogel. I would be grateful if someone could draw the path to it from the saddle.8
View of the continuation of the path9
Enclosures from Planina to Lazu10
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ben31. 05. 2020 11:33:53
Comment on pic. 8. From the saddle the route goes left, below it's a bit poorly visible, but once you're on it no more problems. You can see a bit of it under the far left snowfield below and it constantly traverses slightly up to the left to the ridge. Along it you soon reach the summit of First Vogl. I won't draw it velik nasmeh
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GregorD31. 05. 2020 11:42:47
Thanks @ben. It seemed to me it goes like that, but I wasn't sure.
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