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Kreda, Slatna, Vogels

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j.31. 05. 2020 16:58:12
Pinkerton, thanks! I gladly write about remote and beautiful places in the mountains, though sometimes I wonder if it's smart...

GregorD: Ben's comment holds, attaching a pic. The upper half seems quite steep to me, especially on descent be careful. Hope it helps. Good luck!

Path from the saddle between Slatna and Prvi Vogl.1
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GregorD31. 05. 2020 17:57:25
Thanks to you too @j.
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j.31. 05. 2020 23:42:33
Yesterday, Saturday, May 30. From Laz up and down Konjske police and direct to Kreda, back over Slatna and Razor.

Around half past seven in the morning on Laz I got into a nice chat with two guys fiddling around one hut. The intended route from Razor high on Krede slopes to Dedno polje they discouraged, last part heavily overgrown and hard to pass. They recommended direct hunter's path for access, added a bunch of friendly tips on local paths and passages.

To spice up the day, followed their advice, via great passage east of Konjske police up to abyss at Globoka konta entrance. Passage upper part in pronounced gully straight up. From abyss back a bit down, then to Debeleg vrh wall where last time saw small pathlet. Thought it leads to slanting ledge from Razor bottom under Krede across whole Konjske police system. But pathlet soon ended in hard-to-pass gully. Returned to lower gully part other side, where long ledge ends. Walked it almost a kilometer other way - west. Due to hopelessly overgrown scrub gave up 50m from saving clearing before bottom Razor path. Through short chimney (I to II) slipped to higher wide ledge. To Razor path just light terrain, took time and checked passages through scrub from this side too. Found none. A bit annoyed. Between 1650m and 1780m reached ledge through scrub at 3 spots, but everywhere needed to orient and climb a bit. If magnificent almost 1km long ledge had those few meters initial access, would be nice summer passage. Thus seems suitable only for winter, when scrub covered with snow. Pity!

Followed another morning tip, marked path to Dedno polje. Caught barely visible hunter's pathlet straight to Kreda. Through interesting terrain avoids rock steps and scrub. No orientation issues, just 100 height meters below summit turned too left into clearing, thus topped out a bit more west.

Descended over Slatna. From saddle between it and First Vogl to Razor continued toward hunter's path, lower down Razor to Laz. Slope under saddle very steep and snow-covered. Upper part snow melted only on surface, below hard, crampons gripped only with front teeth. Steepness increases somewhat lower, bottom and possible exit problems not visible from top. Ice axe and crampons mandatory. Snow ended at about 1700m altitude. Where hours earlier exited Konjske police.

On Laz smelled pleasantly of fire from wood gathered in mountains. Met morning guys again. Another chat put the finishing touch on whole-day excursion.

Picturesque passage across Konjske police.1
Konjske police.2
Planina V Lazu from Konjske police.3
At this spot, hands need to be placed on the rock a bit, as the two men from Lazu said.4
Kreda on the opposite side. The hunting trail runs through scree under the walls but is overgrown at the end. The path below leads nowhere.5
Chasm at the entrance to Globoka konta.6
Lower part of Globoka konta.7
Friendly little man in the gully leading to Globoka konta.8
Long and comfortable ledge leads across most of Konjske police, but has no access at the start.9
Grazes and leaves mess behind :).10
I reached the higher ledge at its end. Previously, I continued along the rock face to the larch and then through the scree.11
Direct path to Kreda in the upper part.12
On the path to Kreda, hands also need to be placed on the rock a bit.13
Konjske police and Debeli vrh from Kreda.14
View towards Srednji Vog reveals nice ski touring areas for spring months.15
Descent from the saddle between Slatna and Prvi Vog is steep and fully snow-covered.16
Winter gear is mandatory.17
In the evening on Lazu it smelled of fire from real wood.18
Sled (from Laza onwards).19
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pinkerton1. 06. 2020 08:43:36
Gully between Slatna and Vogl from north called Hladilnik. In summer no snow quite strenuous for ascent due to steep scree, but at least shady nasmeh
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j.2. 06. 2020 09:10:13
Pinkerton, thanks! Another piece of knowledge in endless mosaic.
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funnyboy5. 07. 2020 18:16:11
Pleasant tour in nice places. For dessert, some new knowledge about local trails velik nasmeh

http://primozgraheljsblog.blogspot.com/2020/07/kreda-2025-m-slatna-2077-m-vogli-2181-m.html
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miri5. 07. 2020 18:59:56
sl.37 still blooming? Nice tour you two made.
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silvij5. 07. 2020 20:44:52
miri, quite a few auriculas still blooming esp. where snow melted recently.
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lilyd7. 09. 2020 22:06:54
Sunday's goal was Slatna and Kreda. Group of 26 hikers, super blue sky at Planina Jezero...at Dedno Polje already first clouds. We ascended the path to Kopica. At the junction to Slatna thick fog enveloped us. Part of the group, 15 hikers continues and summits Slatna, really a pity, no views. Part of the group returns, we all gather at Planina Jezero. Sometimes it's so beautiful that we want to return for that, other times weather spoils it and again we want to return to enjoy the views that weren't there this time...
women and men hikers prepare for the start1
we are already at Planina Jezero2
beautiful blue in the sky3
we always gladly return to Planina Jezero4
morning promises5
sometimes we finished Janez's hike here on foot from Ljubljana to Planina Jezero6
hut PD Integral or LPP7
the lake gives the pasture special charm8
starting point for Dedno polje, planina Viševnik, planina Laz...9
one more refreshment10
Dedno polje11
some clouds, but nothing worries us yet12
lots of gentians along the path13
progressing nicely, the gentians satisfied14
We like the path to Kopica15
dense fog enveloped us16
we are returning towards Planina jezero17
this little dog is extremely similar to ours18
we discover a new path on the descent19
full bush of alpine flowers, mainly gentians20
start of the path21
well marked22
from Vogar towards Planina Jezero23
at the hut24
still the first part of the path25
boat at Planina Jezero26
we slept several times in this hut27
sometimes they welcomed us with an accordion28
still without a cloud29
now cheerfully onwards30
we are ascending31
rhododendrons along the path32
beautiful, although already a bit wilting33
how quickly the weather has changed34
orientation in the fog is not easy35
good that a trained trail-walker was at the front...36
grateful to the leader at the top, new two-thousander37
lower down the weather is still more pleasant38
Back on Dedno polje39
Signs in all directions40
Cloud cover in the sky41
Cows on their side, us on the other42
Group photo at Planina Jezero43
At the end of the steep path44
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alinka7. 09. 2020 23:01:10
What's that saying, if you're often in the mountains sometimes there's nice weather too. At least part of the path you weren't in fog.
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palček plezalček26. 09. 2021 14:49:10
Doesn't fit exactly under this title, but so I don't open a new thread...

2 enjoyable ridges Kreda-Slatna-Vogli and Zelnarici-Kopica-Tičarici

An idea that somehow never got its turn has finally become flesh from words. Before departure, I analytically delved only into a bit of the ramble, namely how to find the most direct ridge approach to Kreda. Succeeded. Where on the path from Dedno polje towards Lazu possible crossings are felt and gray rocky flecks are seen, before that a narrow gravel strip reaches into the forest where grass grows, I headed steeply left upward (from pic 1 to the pre-imagined junction ca. 15-20 min). Already a few meters after turning, I saw a transverse pathlet or game trail, more of which followed. After initially very steep terrain, the world flattened somewhat. I sought passages through brush and used the map to roughly stick to the planned line. Once I let myself be led by a game trail right upward, it led me to a romantic promontory above which sadly only brush plantations were visible. Again I directed left and, seeking passages, hit something that looked more than just a game trail. I somehow followed this one, which occasionally disappeared. It led to a grassy patch I had eyed at home, and at its upper end, stepping into brush again, I spotted even sawn branches. Hmm, obviously right at the ridge edge there once ran a pathlet. If the lower part needed testing how to sway on brush branches under Kreda, here acrobatics were impossible as the brush is much stiffer. Thus, despite old clippings, sometimes harder to break through from one side to the other, but the pathlet is still very decent and progress is not unpleasant. Views are divine.

From Kreda continued to Slatna occupied by dozens of ravens. Near summit detected stench, looked away from decaying small game carcasses. On saddle to Vogli bypassed last decaying corpse in big arc and quickly up to Prvi and Srednji Vogel, then unnamed peak and already on last Vogli, from which descended over spot 2309. From Vrat continued few dozen meters on marked path, then right and via slope to summit Velika Zelnarica, from there to Mala and further along ridge to Kopica. Descent from M. Zelnarice to notch tediously clogged and steep. Can't afford a fall, as could land on scree in valley 7J. From Kopica continue on path to V. Tičarici. From its summit the little ridge to M. Tičarici inviting, but knees no longer best disposed, so descend to marked path and up to Mala Tičarica via V slope to reach mentioned little ridge almost at hill top. Descend toward Štapec and end tour with return over planina Ovčarija.
at Dedno polje1
About 20-30 elevation meters above the marked path2
Towards the spruce, then straight up3
Not visible, but quite steep4
view downwards5
Bohinj-Tolmin mountains.6
There is a path or trace7
Good passages are found among the dwarf pines8
Slightly left in search of the best passage9
And then right10
Wonderful views; no one yet on Debel vrh, but 5 are ascending11
Once they pruned them long ago, but it has overgrown considerably12
Right along the edge they have trodden a little path13
Planina V Lazu14
From Kreda towards SW all the way to Krn15
Towards Slatna16
Dozens of ravens all around17
View of the continuation from Slatna18
Tosc and Ogradi, behind Karavanje and KSA19
Between Kopica and Mala Zelnarica and the hills above Zgornja Komna20
Look, who has appeared between M. and V. Zelnarica21
Zadnji Vogel from Srednji22
View of the traversed section of the first part of the crossing23
Razor, Vršak, Teme, Kanjavec and Triglav24
Not all blooming; it could still be picked for salad25
Across Mala Mojstrovka to Hochalmspitze26
Unnamed peak which I previously visited on the left, Srednji Vogel on the right (from Zadnji Vogel)27
Descent to the plateau and left in front of it28
Here I came down29
View back, ahead I reach the marked path a few 10 m north of Vrat30
Path towards M. Zelnarica; behind the second pile of scree I turn along the slope to V. Zelnarica31
Mala Zelnarica32
Lepo Špičje, behind 'that big one' Z Julijcev and Pelci33
From Kal to Čelo, behind Krnske gore34
Towards Kopica35
Velika Tičarica - the passage is by the ruins (from Kopica)36
View of Kopica from J37
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Between V. Tičarica, behind which M. Zelnarica looms and right before the summit of M. Tičarice39
Multitude of helmets - will they descend over Štapce or have they just ascended?40
Back on Dedno polje41
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Approach to Kreda43
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77blaz5. 06. 2022 08:46:13
Still in the dark I went past planina Dedno polje on the path and left it as day broke, climbed towards Slatna. Continued along the ridge to the last Vogel. Descended to Vratc then on the other side to Velika Zelnarica, under Kopica to Dvojno jezero. From there to Črno jezero the heat was already pressing, on descent over Komarča I had to stay alert. No snow or it is avoidable, views beautiful, flowers everywhere, even vriskarici aptly named. Thanks to all who stop even such ones for whom it's clear from afar that they don't smell of violets.

Above Komarča ran into wedding-mood forest ants and first met real autochthonous Slovenian scorpion - forest pincer.
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peter210. 07. 2023 17:41:18
Yesterday on Slatna and Kreda.
At Dedno polje we turn towards the valley behind Kopica and soon branch right to the saddle between Prvi Vogel and Slatna.
Both summits are easily reachable, we didn't continue towards the Vogels.
Back on the shepherd's or hunter's path through clearings in the brush back to Dedno polje.
Nice day with abundance of flowers.
Pictures:
https://www.petersfoto.si/thumbnails.php?album=datebrowse&date=2023-07-10
On Slatna1
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miri10. 07. 2023 17:56:31
As always, beautiful photos.
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peter211. 07. 2023 19:58:55
Miri, thanks.
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DVas16. 09. 2023 19:52:21
Hi. Does the direct path to Kreda from Blato even still exist, they write it's very hard to find.

Thanks.
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peter217. 09. 2023 08:32:08
It exists and is well traceable, only the start from planina Dedno Polje is hard to find as it runs through little wood above planina lots of small trails. Once on right path no problem.
I use it only for descent.
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garmont17. 09. 2023 09:06:02
I haven't managed to find it in two attempts.zadrega
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felix17. 09. 2023 11:41:38
I found the path from Dedno polje, a few years later I looked for the descent path but couldn't reach it at all.
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