Missing stamps on summits and huts
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| Becar20. 05. 2013 20:26:39 |
The question arises how the stamp on Vogl was mounted. But I don't believe someone could steal all SPP stamps. Some are really concreted into houses, fortresses (Tinjan, Socerb), then there are those with thick curved stainless steel rods concreted into the rock etc... There's certainly a lot of vandalism in the mountains too. Maybe within PZS it wouldn't be bad to make some standards for installing these poles, because with a little effort you could make them "forever".
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| mukica20. 05. 2013 20:36:21 |
Stamps are a problem at several locations, also on Gradišče or Velika planina the inscription is illegible, last fall there was a concreted stamp torn off on Mali Draški vrh and attached next to it.. with a small shift it probably flew into the valley... A year ago it wasn't on Špik, then mountaineers from the homeland come up and one comments that they were selling the stamp at the flea market in Belgrade, even stamped it there... and more like that 
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| Becar20. 05. 2013 20:39:07 |
It's also true that even if you install it forever in some rock, someone will come along and "grind off" the stamp. So the problem really isn't simple.
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| Holcar220. 05. 2013 20:42:29 |
And what drives those vandals to such actions?
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| Trobec21. 05. 2013 01:37:24 |
Becar, I wrote that for the second story I wouldn't put my hand in the fire, but the first one is quite credible.
And another one from Mangart...a colleague was herding sheep up there 3 years ago. And one day she and another shepherd caught a tourist trying to remove a bell from the sheep. When they "held him" and searched his backpack (of course against his will), there were already 2 bells inside. If you don't believe me, I can tell you there's a police report about it too 
Why steal such things? My mind doesn't reach that far to understand...the Belgian tourist claimed "come on, it`s souvenir"
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| Becar21. 05. 2013 07:35:14 |
MANGART STAMP
You can't see how big this stone is in the picture. But if it were built into the rock... well that would really be sick to carry a hammer and chisel with you on purpose...  Because one thing is to pick up and steal or destroy something, another is to bring tools on purpose. We agree that without tools you can't steal such a stamp, right.
Maybe Jedrilicar heard something about these "tavern" collections of stamps from the Slovenian mountain traverse and I invite him to join the chat.
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| jedriličar21. 05. 2013 09:36:45 |
@Becar: sorry, I don't know. The southernmost mountain I've been to in Croatia is Zavižan, and I don't collect stamps, and this stamp issue doesn't interest me at all. Although, with us everything is possible, especially in Dalmatia, so I know nothing about these tavern traverses, and I wouldn't bet my hand that it's not true ...
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| Becar21. 05. 2013 12:53:34 |
Jedrilicar thanks for the reply. Like I said, I'd believe that somewhere there are individual stolen stamps, but I wouldn't believe someone has a complete SPP, because some are practically impossible to steal. But someone could make plaster casts and then copies of stamps. That would be more likely. I can't imagine either how someone could unnoticed tear out cemented hooks, because it's not like nobody would catch you at least once.
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| joža x26. 05. 2013 09:34:28 |
On Bovški Grintavec there was a torn out stamp with hook on top lying for about a year, or maybe still lies, it was posted on forums, but I convinced myself too. No one competent has fixed it back. And no one has taken it away for a looong time.
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| urbancek26. 05. 2013 17:26:10 |
If you mean Bavški Grintavec, then not only has it been torn off for a long time, it's also unusable, which seems more important to me...
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| Janezs27. 05. 2013 09:35:02 |
There's a problem with stamps, I've simply made peace with it and don't look for them anymore. Maybe I'll stamp again when stamps are everywhere and in accessible places, so they're available at any time regardless of day, night and winter. Now they have them in huts that aren't open 24 hours a day. To some responsible people it doesn't matter, stamps are or aren't (some really gave up installing them). We walked the E-6 in Slovenia and looked for stamps. Some buildings that should have a stamp according to the description haven't existed for years (demolished). On the E-6 through Austria, it wasn't much better, good that in other countries presence doesn't need to be proven with stamps. Then we walked the peaks of friendship, here too half the stamps are missing. I could list more. If we're doing stamping, let stamps be in places accessible 24 hours and all year round.
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| CarpeDiem24727. 05. 2013 10:09:59 |
Since I (for quite some years) no longer "chase" stamps, hiking and mountaineering has become even more enjoyable for me. Actually I gave up because so often something didn't match with stamps (if nothing else I forgot the booklet at home many times, hehe). 
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| Becar27. 05. 2013 11:22:58 |
With me it's a bit different. I hiked 20 years without getting a single stamp, now I decided to do SPP and extended SPP say in two years "muck". When that's done, again without stamping further . And I admit, only stubbornness pulls me to complete the stamps in the booklet and then I'll be FREE again. 
Personally it annoys me the most if the stamp is worn, smudged, illegible and then you think it would be better to just stick a photo in.
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| Trobec27. 05. 2013 12:37:23 |
Becar, for SPP a photo or "testimony of PZS official" also counts
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| Becar27. 05. 2013 12:38:27 |
I know I know, I have all the pictures too, but for us collectors a fuller booklet gives more thrill right
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| mask6. 12. 2013 00:10:54 |
Which hills with starting points Mače or Preddvor have a stamp at the summit and which don't? We didn't find it on Potoška gora (or maybe I didn't look well enough)?
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| Daaam6. 12. 2013 08:16:49 |
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| JanezJe6. 12. 2013 14:01:28 |
Summits with stamp, starting point Preddvor: Storžič, Bašelski vrh, Kališče, Mali grintovec, Srednji vrh, Cjanovca, Javorjev vrh, Potoška gora http://www.hribi.net/slika.asp?gora=1331, Baba, Jakob
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| mukica6. 12. 2013 19:14:59 |
Bašelski vrh doesn't have it, you get it at Kališče
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| justin15. 04. 2015 16:55:50 |
I'm interested if anyone knows if you can get them also in Italian and Austrian hills, mountains and on which ones what stamp, stamp print, so I have some memory besides the photos, please answer, thanks
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