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| felix10. 09. 2009 06:56:22 |
I agree with Edina and Kriška. We who hike from Styria spend three hours driving to the starting point. Especially Planina Blato is a very good starting point for visiting Stogov, Ogradov, Škednjovca, Debelega vrha, Voglov, for me it's the nicest area of the Julian Alps. Visiting these mountains from the valley would often be impossible. But each individual's decision whether to pay the toll or walk from the valley.
Nice mountain greeting
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| JusAvgustin13. 09. 2009 17:50:00 |
The toll is still too low, especially we should squeeze more from foreigners. Charge entry to TNP for foreigners, summit fees etc... I really wonder if there would be so much piggery in our mountains as accumulates during the season. "Take trash with you to the valley" signs should at least be in English or Italian so they wouldn't throw trash in the nearby scree. But when you say something to them they just stare blankly... Damn p*****! Pig at home, not here. Maybe it sounds harsh, but from the season of hiking (I mean influx of foreigners to our mountains) Slovenia gets very little.
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| jusuf17. 09. 2009 21:48:34 |
I can't help but comment a bit on driving on forest roads. My opinion is there are way too many cars on them. Since I also cycle (and swallow dust) I don't go on such roads on Saturday and Sunday. Banning traffic is probably not fully possible - also because of farmers and foresters, but could ban at least on weekends or salt the prices so high nobody would pay. I think the only goal of hiking isn't to drive as far as possible and walk as little as possible!
Regarding departure: at the starting point you should of course be at latest at first dawn. If you choose distant mountains, you set off even earlier. Depends on which mountain you choose. Best is to walk first hour with headlamp, if you roughly know the path. Thus you can reach any mountain in one day without driving right to the foot.
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| heinz17. 09. 2009 22:04:04 |
E.g. from Stara Fužina to Triglav?
Don't know, try at least once from there to Sedmera jezera and back..
And even if e.g. YOU have enough fitness and let's say - wouldn't be tired, you still have to know that there are many less resilient, older people, children etc. who want to reach this or some other similar goal (there are many).
Unfortunately we're in the 21st century...-We have cars as a means of transport, 100 years ago it would be a horse-drawn cart..
Well, e.g. to Mojstrovka most don't hike from Kranjska Gora or Bovec.
Once, when there were no roads, the only highlanders were shepherds or planšarji. From the valley up almost no one went.
Good luck!
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| jusuf17. 09. 2009 22:09:35 |
A few more ideas for driving to the last possible point:
- closure of all roads ending in wild parking: example road to Kot. At the junction of the Mojstrana-Radovna road there would be (organized and free) parking. Everyone would know they need to leave half an hour earlier from home - even walking in the dark on the road is no problem.
- allowed driving to huts reachable by road, with appropriately high toll of course: example road to Krma, allowed to Kovinarska hut, no further! Thus even e.g. disabled people could taste the mountains a bit.
- in Bohinj last parking at least on weekends at Stara Fužina. Maybe in Voje to the hut with appropriate toll.
- speed limit e.g. 15 km/h, actually equip some TNP guard with radar
Maybe all seems too impossible, but we'd gain a lot: mountains without sheet metal. I also think those who would go from Mojstrana on foot to Vrata and then to Triglav don't throw cans and bottles.
Nice mountain greeting.
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| jusuf17. 09. 2009 22:19:13 |
Heinz
I think it's not the only goal for everyone to get above 2000m. Myself for example often quite satisfied with Dobrča. Of course starting point somewhere along Tržič-Begunje road. That parking in the middle of Dobrča seems really miserable to me. But if someone for any reason can't manage: cable car to Zelenica, walk around a bit on ski slopes and back with cable car to Ljubelj. And you're in the mountains.
Greetings from mountains.
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| heinz17. 09. 2009 22:24:21 |
If they asphalted the current macadam so cyclists wouldn't get exhaust under their nose, would you allow more than 15 km/h then?
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| jusuf17. 09. 2009 22:31:27 |
Heinz
Obviously you don't understand me at all!
Asphalt to Aljažev dom, from there cable car across the north face to Aljažev stolp!!!!
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| viharnik18. 09. 2009 07:15:10 |
I think jusuf is just exaggerating a bit. Roads to valleys or where road already runs should be in good condition, asphalted or macadam. Parking lots must have more capacity and arranged with trash bins. Areas where paths and tracks already enter the park's heart should be closed, because damage is done to meadows, undergrowth, tires dig ditches, pollution with trash. Austria or Switzerland must be example in all this, where despite high alpine roads they have arranged parking and the rest with nature guardians.
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| GregorC18. 09. 2009 10:49:55 |
Heinz, what kind of asphalt anyway. The essence of mountain biking is precisely that you don't ride on asphalt. I don't know if it's really that hard to slow down when you meet a cyclist. From experience I know that most prefer to speed up a bit more so that they smoke even more. But I agree with viharnik that these roads and parking lots should be arranged.
As for the Vrata valley, I'd start collecting toll at Mojstrana at the entrance instead of the parking fee in Vrata. Because there are lots who then park on the roadside or in the forest a few meters before the parking lot and don't have to pay the parking fee. Or stricter control!
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| sagarmatha18. 09. 2009 12:59:19 |
Dear mountain lovers,
I didn't expect so many comments when I wanted information on 3.9.2009 about whether Bohinjci still collect parking/toll for the path to Planina Blato. Someone mentioned they'd stop collecting parking/toll from 15 September onwards. Is that true? Regards
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| g.15. 10. 2009 21:19:02 |
Dear colleagues,
does anyone have information on what the situation is at the toll station? Is the toll still current?
Regards, g.
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| keber118. 10. 2009 19:59:30 |
As I noticed, today they no longer collected; no car had a ticket. It is true, though, that most cars arrived before 7 a.m. (early hour, golden hour), maybe also because of tolling.
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| neverse111. 12. 2009 06:41:47 |
Hello,
does maybe someone know if the road to Planina Blato is passable? Thanks for the reply.
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| viharnik11. 12. 2009 07:38:22 |
They say, barely, barely! Recommend chains in the trunk.
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| mukica15. 04. 2010 09:51:21 |
Hi, I'm interested in how the passability of the road to Planina Blato is?
Has anyone perhaps been around there? Thanks.
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| matevzi115. 04. 2010 11:07:06 |
Call around 22.
You have zs.
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| g.15. 04. 2010 11:58:33 |
Me too, interested in road condition - up to where is it passable?
I assume the problem is more ground clearance than slipping, right? 
thanks!
best, g.
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| m're 115. 04. 2010 15:18:15 |
Something similar doesn't interest me either - Does anyone have any current info on the (im)passability of the road to Planina Blato?
Thanks in advance for all useful replies.
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| ajda15. 04. 2010 20:40:49 |
Hello, I was up there on Tuesday, I don't know the whole road but only that part from which the path to Planina Jezero branches off. Attaching pics
Best, Ajda
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